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Gerneral Question about Weapons
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:19 pm
by Oranges
Are there any plans long term or short term to revamp weapons' effectiveness? It seems to me that 90% of the weapons are absolutely worthless. All I have ever seen anyone use is serinjahs and an occasional long-sword. And when I use axes even of the best quality with good strength good agility combo they are obsolete even to an average serinjah. Maces are alright in concussion I guess, I have used them quite often, but rarely have I ever seen them used as a first choice weapon. So is this on the pecking order at all. Seems to me your attributes should play heavily into what weapons you will be best at using and of course race. So will the reign of the serinjah be forever?
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:27 pm
by Julius
In real life.. not every style of blade is amazing. If every weapon in game was amazing, then the fighting system would be rather dull.
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:29 pm
by Leonarde
Julius wrote:In real life..
Illarions fighting system have absolute nothing to do with real life/real fights
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:29 pm
by Pellandria
Wrong, with the right ax you will win against any serinja sword..
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:30 pm
by Julius
Sure.. but I've never played a game in my life that didn't have shitty, cheap weapons to start out with and then pwnage weapons you find later as you advance as a warrior.
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:34 pm
by Cliu Beothach
Julius wrote:Sure.. but I've never played a game in my life that didn't have shitty, cheap weapons to start out with and then pwnage weapons you find later as you advance as a warrior.
Serinjah's are pwnage weapons?
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:37 pm
by Julius
Cliu Beothach wrote:Julius wrote:Sure.. but I've never played a game in my life that didn't have shitty, cheap weapons to start out with and then pwnage weapons you find later as you advance as a warrior.
Serinjah's are pwnage weapons?
There pwnage because of a bug.
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:41 pm
by Sundo Raca
If you have a proposal which would make things better there is a forum for it

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 12:28 am
by Estralis Seborian
Answer: Yes.
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:45 am
by Oranges
Pellandria wrote:Wrong, with the right ax you will win against any serinja sword..

pfft this excludes magical dwarven axes or anyone magical weapon. you meet me with whatever ax you think can take two serinjahs or a serinjah and a shield.
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 4:26 am
by Taliss Kazzxs
Heh, I think it would be amusing to shake things up and remove serinjahs for a while, replace them with apples like ya did with the ice birds XD
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 4:29 am
by Julius
Taliss Kazzxs wrote:Heh, I think it would be amusing to shake things up and remove serinjahs for a while, replace them with apples like ya did with the ice birds XD
Longswords would be the next widely used weapon. After a while, we would even forget how fast the serinjahs were.
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 5:00 am
by Lrmy
Pellandria wrote:Wrong, with the right ax you will win against any serinja sword..
Actually, wrong. Mostly the system depends on stats and skills. Weapons and armor also play a large role. A fight depends on all these factors. The same skilled player with the same armor could use two serinjah swords and cloud some one with dwarven axes.
Julius wrote:Taliss Kazzxs wrote:Heh, I think it would be amusing to shake things up and remove serinjahs for a while, replace them with apples like ya did with the ice birds XD
Longswords would be the next widely used weapon. After a while, we would even forget how fast the serinjahs were.
Not with the current weapons. I mean, they suck... There is a sword almost exactly like longswords just better. And no, it isn't a serinjah.
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 5:19 am
by Julius
Sabres!
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 5:50 am
by Tanistian_Kanea
i do agree that weapons seem unbalanced. in good games they always have a selection of top quality items. also the best axe, sword, mace, staff, dagger ext. should be ROUGHLY the same. Axe do more damage but are slower. swords your standard average thing. daggers weaker but faster, and maces normally have some other random thing that makes them a bit better, generally a minor help to heal or defense magics, however this wouldn't work much in illarion so stunning would be cool for all concussion weapons. i mean, your likely to be slightly dazed if ya knock on someones head with a big stick (aka staff). i never liked how there was always one weapon that was "best". and especially since someone mentioned that serinja swords are really good because of a glitch just makes it worse.
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 5:55 am
by Sundo Raca
Oranges wrote:Pellandria wrote:Wrong, with the right ax you will win against any serinja sword..

pfft this excludes magical dwarven axes or anyone magical weapon. you meet me with whatever ax you think can take two serinjahs or a serinjah and a shield.
Go propose a revolutionary new weapons idea and stop whining

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 6:53 am
by Salathe
Julius wrote:Taliss Kazzxs wrote:Heh, I think it would be amusing to shake things up and remove serinjahs for a while, replace them with apples like ya did with the ice birds XD
Longswords would be the next widely used weapon. After a while, we would even forget how fast the serinjahs were.
not necessarily. If you took them out i could think of a number useable weapons each equally better in their own way. There would definately be a bit more diversity in weapons
Serinjahs are strong because of a dislexic bug in their speed. Which makes them better than every non magic weapon. I'd very much like to see this fixed >.<. Though as estralis stated, weapons and armors are being revamped, so be patient
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 1:12 pm
by The Less
Oranges wrote:Pellandria wrote:Wrong, with the right ax you will win against any serinja sword..

pfft this excludes magical dwarven axes or anyone magical weapon. you meet me with whatever ax you think can take two serinjahs or a serinjah and a shield.
If you wish to see some proof, go meet Konrad and Drethek and get them to show you different fighting styles, a certain none magical axe can defeat dual serinjahs quite easilly.
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 1:29 pm
by pharse
Salathe wrote:Though as estralis stated, weapons and armors are being revamped
You must have misunderstood him.
Oranges wrote:So will the reign of the serinjah be forever?
Estralis wrote:Answer: Yes.
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 4:51 pm
by Estralis Seborian
Check your inbox
There
are plans to revamp weapons & armor, but the existance of a plan does not mean anything is done. In other words: Weapons will not stay the way they are forever, but tomorrow, you won't wake up with a brand new fighting system.
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:51 am
by Konrad Knox
All i can say is, get 100 slashing skill before you make conclusions. Some weapons simply take more skill to get the benefit off.
Meet me some time and i will show you the significance of axes.
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:55 pm
by AlexRose
Konrad Knox wrote:All i can say is, get 100 slashing skill before you make conclusions. Some weapons simply take more skill to get the benefit off.
It's been done.
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:07 pm
by nmaguire
When you have 100 slashing every weapon pwns

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:56 pm
by Evan Ross
What about concussion weapons?