Favorism of Gms and other Fun
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:42 pm
Allright, as I'm forbidden to talk in other Topics about this, but its always something that is happening in Illarion..constantly, while the Devs and Gm simply close their eyes and let this happen or they are allright with it as they support their friends, maybe they don't even know about it.
First off I know we are all human and a bit favorism is allright, but on the other hand I can understand how several "english player" talk about Gm favorism and as I'm glad to mainly stand as a neutral person, neither being one of the so called powergamers/rulebreakers, how the Gms and Devs normally kill any critics nor one of the Gm "pushed" people I have no reason to lie about the Game nor support any Gm work as they go and I'm not scared of any harrasment of the Gm's, that would just proove that I'm finally right.
Second: I would like to scrap these "english player are powergamer" argument out of peoples head, simply because its quiete funny how noone ever searches for any people inside the german community for them, as I see it the Silverbrand community is mainly german, several people allready complained about this and all what they got as answer was that they "could" come, but I highly doubt that the "Goldburg" village would be needed, if you could get into there as an english dwarf. What dwarfes do all day there, well I can only guess, but its strange to see a dwarf actually outside of silverbrand, a german dwarf thats it, so it could be incredible powergaming..or the best rp soil on the whole Island, who knows.
Third: Just waiting for some "Ohh you just flame all day" go ahead, send me a pm with a real Argument, mind you ripping one sentence or a few word out of context is no argument but bullshit and in fact has no true intention but to piss off your argumentpartner.
Well now I finally come to the whole point, after I got the first things off my chest.
The main problem or reason I'm recently worried about, is the favorism of Djironnyma, as it seems that he is allowed to do anything, simply because he is the super Djironnyma and we all know he can revers Time, Logic and probaply everything else.
I doubt that many people know what "Darloks/Varshikars/Northerots" castle history is all about so a short history lesson, there is a magical well inside or under the castle, it once layed free in the ruins of another castle, Darlok, "trading" with a demon, blackmailed the Island while draining the Island "lifepower", thus the Island slowly turned into a desert, no tress where growing and the "great drought" might be one of the best quests I ever saw and ever will see in Illarion, it was a special atmosphere..a great bad person, in his huge castle blackmailing the Island and one player alone couldn't do much, the only hope where the few seplings that remained near "falkeners Hain" in the northforest, even if they where constantly attacked.
Anyway I guess telling from it doesn't recreate the atmosphere, just be sure that this quest took a very long time to plan and it runned several weeks in RL, but long story short darlok was attacked by a large group, he "died" inside the cellar of his castle and as long as I recall his might was broken as his helmet, armour and weapon where recovered.
Since then the Castle is a ruin, so allready several years and now a few months ago Djironnyma, who was death and ressurected by a mage in schooling and with the only sacrifice of 4 sheeps, as long as I know, got into the castle, still I'm unsure why he would come back or even want to get into the castle, mind you its more or less a "evil" castle build upon a magic well which could turn people into monster. Now he rebuild the castle with his "magic" and its sealed with a magic door so only a few people can get into it, obviously Dji won't get out of the castle either, as his "ghost" can't maintain himself, atleast this is what I got as a ig reason.
So what we got now is a player who not only got a undeserved Ghostform, where he can cast any Spell, which normally goes against the rules as I doubt a Ghost could speak the words needed to create a spell, as intention of the words is one of the main subject in casting a spell, but he got also a castle, again I think completly undeserved.
Arguments I heard allready and will now be crushed:
-"Dji was a "migthy" mage as he was playing, he made all kinds of rituals"
This is a pretty weak argument, Dji and Damien created the Rules of Magic, playing in your rules is as easy as it could possible get.
-"Dji was resecurred and was on hiding as he played".
Again I will remind you, he was brougth back, even if its only a ghost, by a mage in schooling, not even a fully educated mage nor a sacrifice of a human/elve/lizard/any other race was brought, but a sacrifice of a mere 4 sheeps.
-"If you don't know anything, stop talking"
I always wonder why the Gm's are so afraid of giving out informations, maybe they cover up something, maybe they are afraid to say that there is favorism or some gms made msitakes, heck maybe they are even afraid every gm might tell a different story, well I don't know, but atleast now the Gm's can post here and give us their story.
-"People who help to keep the game interresting are rewarded, people who only play with two or tree chars aren't"
I might be mistaken, but I don't think many people ever played with Dji, he is behind a sealed door and unlike the magic academy, where almost everyone gets in, the word for the entrance door might be known ig by..hmm I counted 6 people, where maybe only 3 are even regular at the castle itself, so I wonder how Dji got all these rewards, while he only plays with 3 or 4 people.
Does any town or guildleader get rewards for leading his guild or town?
Just as an example, the "new magic academy" allready builds things, we maybe could get together 10 active mages to build something, but snap we can't, we need to get all the ressources and silver alone, but one ghost can rebuild an almost destroyed castle, while one major part of casting magic is missing, talk about fairness here eh?
Anyway, I'm really interrested in any opinions and or other "facts" people come up with and see how long anyone flames and the gms decide that this must be closed immeadeatly.
First off I know we are all human and a bit favorism is allright, but on the other hand I can understand how several "english player" talk about Gm favorism and as I'm glad to mainly stand as a neutral person, neither being one of the so called powergamers/rulebreakers, how the Gms and Devs normally kill any critics nor one of the Gm "pushed" people I have no reason to lie about the Game nor support any Gm work as they go and I'm not scared of any harrasment of the Gm's, that would just proove that I'm finally right.
Second: I would like to scrap these "english player are powergamer" argument out of peoples head, simply because its quiete funny how noone ever searches for any people inside the german community for them, as I see it the Silverbrand community is mainly german, several people allready complained about this and all what they got as answer was that they "could" come, but I highly doubt that the "Goldburg" village would be needed, if you could get into there as an english dwarf. What dwarfes do all day there, well I can only guess, but its strange to see a dwarf actually outside of silverbrand, a german dwarf thats it, so it could be incredible powergaming..or the best rp soil on the whole Island, who knows.
Third: Just waiting for some "Ohh you just flame all day" go ahead, send me a pm with a real Argument, mind you ripping one sentence or a few word out of context is no argument but bullshit and in fact has no true intention but to piss off your argumentpartner.
Well now I finally come to the whole point, after I got the first things off my chest.
The main problem or reason I'm recently worried about, is the favorism of Djironnyma, as it seems that he is allowed to do anything, simply because he is the super Djironnyma and we all know he can revers Time, Logic and probaply everything else.
I doubt that many people know what "Darloks/Varshikars/Northerots" castle history is all about so a short history lesson, there is a magical well inside or under the castle, it once layed free in the ruins of another castle, Darlok, "trading" with a demon, blackmailed the Island while draining the Island "lifepower", thus the Island slowly turned into a desert, no tress where growing and the "great drought" might be one of the best quests I ever saw and ever will see in Illarion, it was a special atmosphere..a great bad person, in his huge castle blackmailing the Island and one player alone couldn't do much, the only hope where the few seplings that remained near "falkeners Hain" in the northforest, even if they where constantly attacked.
Anyway I guess telling from it doesn't recreate the atmosphere, just be sure that this quest took a very long time to plan and it runned several weeks in RL, but long story short darlok was attacked by a large group, he "died" inside the cellar of his castle and as long as I recall his might was broken as his helmet, armour and weapon where recovered.
Since then the Castle is a ruin, so allready several years and now a few months ago Djironnyma, who was death and ressurected by a mage in schooling and with the only sacrifice of 4 sheeps, as long as I know, got into the castle, still I'm unsure why he would come back or even want to get into the castle, mind you its more or less a "evil" castle build upon a magic well which could turn people into monster. Now he rebuild the castle with his "magic" and its sealed with a magic door so only a few people can get into it, obviously Dji won't get out of the castle either, as his "ghost" can't maintain himself, atleast this is what I got as a ig reason.
So what we got now is a player who not only got a undeserved Ghostform, where he can cast any Spell, which normally goes against the rules as I doubt a Ghost could speak the words needed to create a spell, as intention of the words is one of the main subject in casting a spell, but he got also a castle, again I think completly undeserved.
Arguments I heard allready and will now be crushed:
-"Dji was a "migthy" mage as he was playing, he made all kinds of rituals"
This is a pretty weak argument, Dji and Damien created the Rules of Magic, playing in your rules is as easy as it could possible get.
-"Dji was resecurred and was on hiding as he played".
Again I will remind you, he was brougth back, even if its only a ghost, by a mage in schooling, not even a fully educated mage nor a sacrifice of a human/elve/lizard/any other race was brought, but a sacrifice of a mere 4 sheeps.
-"If you don't know anything, stop talking"
I always wonder why the Gm's are so afraid of giving out informations, maybe they cover up something, maybe they are afraid to say that there is favorism or some gms made msitakes, heck maybe they are even afraid every gm might tell a different story, well I don't know, but atleast now the Gm's can post here and give us their story.
-"People who help to keep the game interresting are rewarded, people who only play with two or tree chars aren't"
I might be mistaken, but I don't think many people ever played with Dji, he is behind a sealed door and unlike the magic academy, where almost everyone gets in, the word for the entrance door might be known ig by..hmm I counted 6 people, where maybe only 3 are even regular at the castle itself, so I wonder how Dji got all these rewards, while he only plays with 3 or 4 people.
Does any town or guildleader get rewards for leading his guild or town?
Just as an example, the "new magic academy" allready builds things, we maybe could get together 10 active mages to build something, but snap we can't, we need to get all the ressources and silver alone, but one ghost can rebuild an almost destroyed castle, while one major part of casting magic is missing, talk about fairness here eh?
Anyway, I'm really interrested in any opinions and or other "facts" people come up with and see how long anyone flames and the gms decide that this must be closed immeadeatly.