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Citizens of Trolls Bane,

Once again a new election is upon us and there are many choices to be made; who to choose, why to choose, and weather or not to vote for your friend. Hopefully in the end the man or woman who is chosen is the best for the job.

As I have been nominated for candidacy I figure I may as well give you a reason to vote or not to vote for me. In essence I would like to state that I believe myself to be no better a candidate for the job than any of the other find people who have been nominated. I will leave it to everyone else to state that they are better than everyone because in the end almost every man, woman, and child thinks they can do a better job than everyone one else.

Being as my stating the above will get both you and me no where in this election I may as well state my ideas if elected.

~Balanced Government~
In the past the majority of the governments were based on one person or one person and their friends. I would like to suggest a way to keep people in check so we do not have a sole person rampaging around without resistance. In the system I have planed there will be three main government figures who will be elected by the people. War, money, and people. Without these three ideas there would be no towns as they all interconnect. Without war and money there are no people, without people and money there can be no wars. Without people and war there is no money. These people will be nominated both by the people and me.

Where will this leave me if we have a three person government? I will be there to help guide the process, be a diplomat towards other towns, and place announcements on the boards.

~Shelter in Bane~
Although the crime rate has gone down there are still citizens and visitors of the town who are in need of food, clothing, and a place to rest. I would like to finish what the knighthood has started by putting a shelter in Bane. The knighthood will help supply the shelter with food and water. Volunteers will be taken to greet and feed hungry citizens. Anyone who is in need of a place to sleep will have a free bed. Anyone who is in need of warmth is welcomed.

~~
I am sure my list could go on and on and I could come up with various suggestions. However now I would like to allow others, candidates and voters, to ask valid questions.

I will say one more thing before I sign my name. I will not take part of any throwing of sty mud. Instead I hope that the best person for the job will be chosen by the people because they are the best person for the job. I will tell you now that even if you are my friend, even if you know me well, do not vote for me if you think I will not do a good job. However I do promise that if I am elected, I will do my best to full-fill the position bestowed upon me by the people.

Sir Dantagon Marescot
Warrior of Bragon
Knight of Gobaith

((Uebersetsung bitte.))

Nope, not very good.

Grant for Governor!,
Grant Rothman

(( Translation / Übersetzung, weil ich anscheinend nix besseres zu tun habe: ))

Bürger von Troll's Bane,

wieder einmal steht uns eine neue Wahl bevor und es gibt viele Entscheidungen zu fällen: Wen wählen und warum, eigene Freunde wählen oder nicht? Am Ende wird hoffentlich der geeignetste Mann oder die geeignetste Frau gewählt.

Weil ich als Kandidat nominiert wurde, möchte ich euch Gründe geben mich zu wählen oder nicht zu wählen. Ich möchte klarstellen, dass ich mich selbst nicht als besser geeignet erachte als die anderen Nominierten. Ich überlasse es den anderen zu behaupten, sie seien besser als alle anderen, denn schließlich glaubt fast jeder Mann, jede Frau und jedes Kind von sich, etwas besser machen zu können als all die anderen.

Das oben Geschriebene allein wird euch und mich aber nirgends in dieser Wahl hinführen, weshalb ich nun meine Ideen kundtun möchte, für den Fall dass ich gewählt werden sollte.

~Ausgewogene Regierung~
In der Vergangenheit fußte der Großteil der Regierungen auf einer einzelnen Person oder einer Person samt deren Freunde. Ich möchte einen Weg vorschlagen, der die Bürger miteinschließt, sodass es keine einzelne Person mehr gibt, die ohne Widerstand unbehelligt tun und lassen kann was sie will.
In diesem vor mir angedachten System wird es drei Hauptämter der Regierung geben, die alle durch das Volk gewählt werden: Krieg, Geld und Volk. Ohne diese drei Pfeiler gäbe es keine Städte, denn sie alle hängen zusammen. Ohne Krieg und Geld gibt es kein Volk, ohne Volk und Geld kann es keine Kriege geben. Ohne Volk und Krieg gibt es kein Geld. Die Vertreter dieser drei Ämter werden durch das Volk und mich nominiert.

Wo ist dann mein Platz, wenn die Regierung aus drei Personen besteht? Ich werde da sein, um bei der Regierungsbildung und den -geschäften zu helfen, als ein Diplomat zwischen den Städten und als Sprecher der Regierung hier am Stadtbrett.

~Zuflucht in Troll's Bane~
Obwohl die Zahl der Verbrechen abgenommen hat, gibt es immer noch Bürger und Besucher der Stadt, die Nahrung, Kleidung und Unterschlupf bedürfen. Ich möchte beenden, was die Ritterschaft einst begann: Eine Zuflucht in Troll's Bane bauen. Die Ritterschaft wird diese Zuflucht mit Nahrung und Wasser unterstützen. Freiwillige werden gebraucht, um hungernde Bürger zu empfangen und zu versorgen. Jeder, der einen Platz zum Schlafen braucht, wird ein freies Bett bekommen. Jeder, der Wärme braucht, ist willkommen.

~~
Ich bin sicher meine Auflistung könnte weiter und weiter gehen und ich könnte mit zahlreichen Vorschlägen aufwarten. Nun möchte ich jedoch anderen, Kandidaten und Wählern, die Möglichkeit geben berechtigte Fragen zu stellen.

Ich möchte eines noch sagen, bevor ich meine Unterschrift setzen werde: Ich werde mich an keiner Schlammschlacht beteiligen. Ich hoffe stattdessen, dass die geeignetste Person vom Volk gewählt wird, weil sie die geeignetste Person für diese Aufgabe ist. Ich sage euch - selbst wenn ihr meine Freunde seid oder mich gar gut kennt -, stimmt nicht für mich, wenn ihr denkt, ich werde die Aufgabe nicht gut meistern. Ich verspreche jedoch, wenn ich gewählt werden sollte, dass ich mein Bestes geben werde um die Stellung zu erfüllen, die mir das Volk geschenkt hat.

Sir Dantagon Marescot
Warrior of Bragon
Knight of Gobaith

You are talking about war?!

unsigned

((Danke Miklorius, konnten Sie das auch uebersetusung?))

To the unsigned writer above, no, I did not mean war and I apologies for the confusion. It was an idea, war, money, and people. Perhaps a better title for each is Captain of the Guard, Treasurer, and Magistrate. Allow me to explain these positions a little better.

War/Captain of the Guard: The Captain of the Guard is, of course, in control of the guards. It is their job to raise a working militia and/or town guard and uphold the law to the best of their ability. They will give the jail keys to the guard and will be in charge of defense. If Trolls Bane is truly in need of it, they may make war plans, though should be also keep peace in mind. Any intention of war or attacking must be taken to the council and a council member must second the motion.

Money/Treasurer: The Treasurer is in charge of keeping track of the treasury. If they deem so wise, they are also in charge of money distribution and deciding pay. Pay to the council, positions, and guard shall change after each election. There can be as little as no pay to the point where citizens start getting angry over the greed. Therefore pay to government positions should be limited if any pay is given. Any positive or negative change to the pay roll must be taken to the council and a council member must second the motion.

People/Magistrate: The Magistrate is in charge of changing the laws and listening to the people. Any suggestions by the people should be mentioned to the Magistrate who will then choose if they should take the suggestion to the council. The Magistrate will also take the position of the judge when needed. Any change to the law, fines, or punishments must be taken to the council and a council member must second the motion.

These three positions must work closely together in order to put new ideas into motion. Being that this is a large job each may choose at least two others to help make decisions or sit in for them at the council.

Sir Dantagon Marescot
Knight of Gobaith
Warrior of Bragon

(( Translation, last time because no german answers yet ))

An den anonymen Schreiber weiter oben: Nein, ich meinte nicht "Krieg" and entschuldige mich für die Verwirrung. Es war eine Idee - Krieg, Geld und das Volk. Bessere Bezeichnungen sind Captain der Wache, Schatzmeister und Magistrat. Erlaubt mir diese Ämter ein wenig mehr zu erläutern:

Krieg/Captain der Wache: Der Captain ist, natürlich, der Befehlshaber der Wachen. Es ist seine Aufgabe eine einsatzfähige Miliz und/oder Stadtwache zu gründen und das Gesetz nach bestem Können aufrecht zu erhalten. Er verteilt die Kerkerschlüssel an die Wachen und führt die Verteidigung an. Wenn es wirklich notwendig ist, wird er Kriegspläne ausarbeiten, aber stets an den Frieden denken. Jedes Ansinnen nach Krieg oder Angriffen muss dem Konzil vorgetragen werden und ein Konzilmitglied muss den Plänen zustimmen.

Geld/Schatzmeister: Der Schatzmeister führt Buch über das Vermögen der Stadt. Wenn dies zuverlässig erledigt wird, kann er auch über die Verteilung des Geldes und Bezahlungen entscheiden. Die Bezahlung an das Konzil, die Amtsinhaber und die Wachen soll nach jeder Wahl wechseln. Es kann auch so gut wie keine Bezahlung geben, bis die Bürger sich über Geiz beschweren. Bezahlungen an Regierungsämter sollten begrenzt werden, wenn es eine Bezahlung überhaupt gibt. Jede positive oder negative Änderung bei den Bezahlungen muss dem Konzil vorgetragen werden und ein Konzilmitglied muss den Plänen zustimmen.

Volk/Magistrat: Der Magistrat hat die Gesetzeshoheit und kommuniziert mit dem Volk. Alle Vorschläge des Volks sollten an den Magistraten gerichtet werden, welcher entscheidet ob sie dem Konzil vorgetragen werden. Der Magistrat übernimmt auch die Rolle des Richters wenn benötigt. Alle Änderungen an den Gesetzen, den Bußgeldern oder anderen Bestrafungen müssen dem Konzil vorgetragen werden und ein Konzilmitglied muss den Plänen zustimmen.

Diese drei Ämter müssen eng zusammenarbeiten um neue Ideen umzusetzen. Deshalb ist jedes Amt eine schwere Aufgabe, weswegen jeweils mindestens zwei Helfer erwählt werden sollten um bei Entscheidungen zu helfen oder den jeweiligen Amtsinhaber im Konzil zu vertreten.

Sir Dantagon Marescot
Knight of Gobaith
Warrior of Bragon

The town of Trollsbane should not be a vehicle for your knighthood to achieve its aims.

John Rhodes

Yet his aims are good aims. Are you saying that there is a problem with completing their shelter? Or that you think a shelter is a bad idea?

I will not answer argue with an unsigned writer, just as I would not argue with a cloaked face.

John Rhodes

Jonno wrote:The town of Trollsbane should not be a vehicle for your knighthood to achieve its aims.

John Rhodes

Beneath the parchment is set another, signed writing.

I highly doubt that Sir Dantagon is agreeing to run for this purely on
intentions of making Troll's Bane a vehicle for this Knighthood.
Please keep in mind that the only thing he speaks of is building the
shelter, of which has been worked on for a long time. It is not for the
Knighthood, sir, but the town in whole. I would simple like for you to
realize this.

Thank you.
~ Squire Ayla To'lorn

I think the fact that you are being so defensive shows something. Don't you?

John Rhodes

It simply shows that I am loyal to my Knighthood, sir, and that I do not
wish for others to take our intentions the wrong way.

~ Squire Ayla To'lorn

I am glad all you Knights are reading from the same prayer book. I am now trying to fathom how one can be a female Knight......

John Rhodes

However, in seriousness, how the town is a vehicle is that the knighthood have tried to build the shelter for a while now and so far failed spectacularly. And I have seen no general uproar demanding a shelter for Trollsbane.

John Rhodes,

This shelter is from the knighthood to the city. All that the knighthood has to do with it is that we will help supply the materials to build it (if my suggested trio-goverment agrees) and the knighthood will be vollunteers who will give food and drink to those who need it. This idea has been in work for a while, even before Siltaris was govenour. There has just been multiple discrepancys in where to place the building.

I do not quite understand your disagreeance and ask you to expand on why you disagree with this idea. Please tell me exactly what is wrong with the knighthood helping to fund a shelter in Bane which is for the people and not the knighthood?

Sir Dantagon Marescot

The money could be better spent on equipping the town guard, for instance, rather than used to massage your own egos. Y,ou do not seem to understand, I have seen not ONE message on this board that supports the idea of a shelter, other than from the Knighthood. It is simply unecessary, there are no poor people on Gobiath.

John Rhodes

No one's ego is being massaged by this. As far as I know a majority of people are for a shelter in Bane. And it is not just a poor shelter. There will be a free place for citizens and travelers to rest. I truely do not understand why you are against this. In all truth, I would rather see critical responces to my messages than anything in support of my idea's.

Sir Dantagon Marescot

I think this is a good example of how cutting out salaries would help a lot. Both building projects and armory things could be paid for swiftly if we didn't give money to officials who are 'volunteering'.

F

Dear Sir Marescot,

could you please outline your ideas, promoting Trolls Bane's resident traders and craftsmans.
I feel, citicens of Trolls Bane should be supported in favour by the capabilities of our nice town and a gouvernment elected by them.

Banduk Robberhauf

Banduk Robberhauf,

To be quite honest with you, I am not sure as to what will help the crafters and merchants. Currently it seems as though the goverments problems must be fixed before we take to many steps ahead of ourselves. Crafters and merchants are still vital regardless of the circumstances. Once the council is set I will propose that we hold a market day for merchants and crafters to sell their goods. This would be open to all of those on Gobaith. A market would ensure that crafters and merchants can safely sell their goods without worry of theift. The down can also buy supplies from crafters and merchants at a reasonable price. I think it would also be a good idea to have trade routes between towns. These caravans passing between towns would be guarded. Though in all honesty, we do not have enough milita or guards to do so. There are not enough people to defend the town, none the less defend caravans passing between towns. I can not promise that this will happen as we must be reasonable. Commerse is a great thing and is very important. Yet at the same time, we must strengthen the goverment and the own so that crafters have a safe and stable place to work and live.

Sir Dantagon Marescot
Knight of Gobaith
Warrior of Bragon

Dantagon is brilliant leader and gallant fighter, I have fought aside him for years now and would do so again any day. His decisions are wise and in my opinion he would be a excellent governor. These are my few last words I leave for Trollsbane of this great man.

~Taliss

the shelter is a good idea...but i think that thieves might steal the food of other people...maybe some guards there?
-LT

If possible, yes. My hope was that the knighthood would be helping, so yes, in a way there would be guards. It could even be that recuits would have to help at the shelter for a while. Though anyone should be able to vollunteer to help there.

Sir Dantagon Marescot
Knight of Gobaith
Warrior of Bragon

These words are all noble and true, but what happens if you are not elected, and the dwarves attack Troll's Bane? Will the Knights of Gobaith still defend it if Cromwell becomes the new gouvernor? If you will not I am afraid the people does not have a choice, because Bane is dependant on the knights. Also, if you are selected gouvernor, will you leave the knighthood? Or at least give away your leading position?

I also suggest that someone starts training an organised militia. May the knighthood help me do this?

Aenarion

I am curious, too, that you used "war" as a central idea, but you explained later what you really have meant.

For clarification:
There will be three persons in your government - Treasurer, Captain and Magistrate -, while you as Governor are a kind of "supervisor" and diplomat?

And what's about that council?

-Midrusio

If I am not elected I will hold no grudges. Elected or not I would rather not see the dwarves attack Bane. We may be trained in battle, but peace is highly prefered. The diplomatic way will be taken first, govenour or no govenour possition. We will do our best to keep a war from happening in the first place.

As for myself if selected as govenour; our ranks our rather thin as of late so I am afraid I can not give up my possition as lead knight. I have not seen Sir Surion around as of late and currently take the possition of sole knight. I am slowly placing more and more responcibility upon the shoulder of squire To'lorn so we can lead together when she is knighted.

My hope is that once we have the tri-council I can step back a little and be more of an advisor. After what I have seen of us holding a sole leader in the goverment is that they have never been put in check. The govenour can do what ever they wish without question except from the people. Right now we need a sturdy goverment who will not fall towards this, so the council will take that place. Also I will try to play diplomat expecially when it comes to the axe of Silverbrand hanging over all of our heads. And before it is asked, yes, this will be an elected council. I will nominate my three choices, they may choose to accept or decline, and then other nominations may come in.

Lastly, the militia. I have wanted to see an organized militia for some time, but it has not come to pass as to late. Govenour or not I would be more than willing to help train militia. If I am not avalible I will try to get at least one person who knows how to fight in the knighthood to come help.

Sir Dantagon Marescot
Knight of Gobaith
Warrior of Bragon

The election will start soon, so a last question:

Did you already have certain persons in your mind for the council positions?

Aye, I do have some names which I think may do a good job. This is my tenative nominations for the council.

For Captain of the Guard, Taliss Kazzs.
He is a good lizard who knows what he is doing when it comes to the guard. I know he will do a good job if voted in.

For Magistrate, Fooser.
Dispite the fact that the two of us have never truely gotten along he is by far the best choice for this possition in my eyes. Fooser has had past experiance as a goverment leader and although his ideas are a tad on the liberal side, he means best.

For Treasure, Banduk Robberhauf.
Although I have never actually met the man he is one of the few who have asked about the economy of the town. A merchant as treasure would be the wisest of choices.

Sir Dantagon Marescot
Knight of Gobaith
Warrior of Bragon

As I've said to you many times before, and this will probably not be the last. READ. Taliss is leaving all landling affairs. He won't accept your nomination.

Julius Rothman
Knight of Gobaith
Warrior of Malachin

Julius, you seem so proud of the fact that you may be right. Have you ever thought that you may be wrong?

Sir Dantagon Marescot

Oh, I've thought it a lot. Tis not the case on this one. He has spoken to be on this issue many times, therefore I know from first hand experience. I am not wrong, dearest Dantagon. If this is your only answer to what I said, then I pity you.

Julius Rothman
Knight of Gobaith
Warrior of Malachin