Hi there,
>PO Siltaris IMHO tried to just make things harder by posting this "testament" outo f OOC-reasons.
I did not know that POs feel so unconfortable with this testament. It was not my intention to decrease POs mood at all. Rather, it was a consequent step in the storyline and just an opportunity to let you react. The new government always had the opportunity to refuse the testament.
The consequence might have been another conflict between SB, Grey Rose and TB on the other side. Well, regarding the fact that you just had conquered violantly a whole town and have killed dozens of (innocent) people ig, I wonder why you hesitate to keep on following the storyline you have started.
Instead, first you have tried to find reasons against the validity of the testament. It was clear that this testament was righteous. So, in the end, after you have noticed that there is no way to reject the testament with "valid arguments", you have left your own storyline of violent conquerers and accepted the testament.
Even your whole behaviour after you have conquered the town was not very consequent in my opinion. As violent conquerers of a town whose citizens were not unsatisfied with their former government, by killing citizens and people when conquering the town, and by killing a highly liked and accepted person ig, I ask you: What did you expect afterwards? A warm welcome?
You tried to gain trust of folks and citizens. You have tried to legitimate your power. There was not much left of your army afterwards, which would have cared for the town. In my opinion, this behaviour was not very logic. When you play a conquering army, please play them well till the end and do not stop after conquering the town.
It is difficult, indeed. And it is difficult to be governor; in particular a governor with little money. However, this is what every leader of a town has to cope with: It is hard work to lead a town and it costs plenty of time.
It was clear from the beginning that it won’t be easy to hold that town. When you do not have the time nor the will to play that consequently, I wonder why you have started that war at all.
Well, yes, it maybe was a bit more difficult for you since you had no access to the town’s taxes. But I have not seen much efforts of you to do something to conhvince traders or to gain money in another way.
You could have talked to the traders. You could have tried to bring your own traders into town. You could have tried to get money from citizens you just have conquered. You could have taken the Seahorse and taken all the money of the former Governor. You could have spend more time in playing the situatuion
after you have conquered the town.
Instead, all I have seen was that you have tried to justify your conquering. You have tried to explain what
has happend. This is hardly appropriate behaviour of conquerers. You should have tried to play what
will happen by following your own storyline of being invaders.
So, why did I do that testament?
There are some reasons for that.
IG reasons: It is logic that Siltaris has seen that people would try to get rid of her. She was not willing to give her property into the hands of unrighteful persons. She had the will that her efforts of the redesign of the town would be implemented.
OOC reasons: Since there was little ig response to the conquering at all, I thought that the new government needs a little challenge. It could have been easy decision by you: Accept or not accept. It was your choice. Your decision would have polarised, of course. It would have forced you to follow a path of your storyline consequently. It made the game more interesting in my opinion.
I wanted to see the rebuildings implemented, since I worked for that for several weeks. We will see, if this will work or not.
Game balancing reasons: Invaders of a town have to prove themselves when they conquer a town. If it is THAT easy to conquer a town within 5 hours and by doing so destroying structures which have been set up over 9 RL months, it would be a very bad example of game balancing. Others would come and take over the town again. Either for reason of just destroy what has been there before (no matter if it was good or not, just for change itself) or for reasons of money they could get from the traders. If you are not able to play your own storyline consequently till the end and if you are not able to get along with the ig situation for more than 2 RL weeks, I have strong dooubts if it would be good for ig situation to have such a new government.
I know that governing a town costs much time and efforts. I know that it is sometimes infuriatingly to get along with all the claims, questions, structures you have to deal with at the beginning of your governor-career. It would have been much easier for you to wait for elections to change something. Now you have chosen the more difficult way. You should have thought before starting this plot if you have time and the will to play it consequently. I feel sorry for those who accepted your storyline and now are left alone.
Though, I guess this is Illarion.
>The Staff was sometimes VERY unfair - the worst example: Once I edited the City-thread in order to actualize the Citizen's list - whom do i see added there? Siltaris. And I swear that was NOT me.
First, I did not even know up to now that her name was listed there once.
Second, there could have been lesser activity of quests to that time, yes.
Third, there always had been quests in TB and often quests of town attackings. This is what a government has to deal with.
Fourth, when you plan to influence the political ig situation that dramatically, you should have asked the main people involved before (GMs, Siltaris, Taliss,...). So, when you bring people to accept your stroyline, then you should accept their reaction on your doings. I really feel sorry for the rebellion who have roleplayed for nothing now as it seems...
>Every Char screaming for Democracy... DAMn, ITS MEDIEVAL xD
As far as I remember, the main point in starting this war was that Siltaris was accused by you to be a monarch, a tyrant, thus the opposite of democracy.
Second, when you play conquerers, you should not put efforts into legitimating your invasion. As conquerer you normally do not need the folks, you do not need their acceptance. But you hzave tried to gain it. This was democratic behaviour as well, in my opinion. If you do not want democracy, then do not play it. Be a good model.
It might just be the old-skool me, but when you give up your character (which always deserves respect) what you don't do is to make another character to push the dead character's agenda in any way.
What Jerimedes did was to bring a storyline to an end. There have been so many storylines in past which have been interrupted and not been continued at all.
The testament was a reaction to the storyline you have started. The testament was an offer. Noone was forced to accept it. A simple “no, we do not accept” would have brought the testament to an end. All I did with Jerimedes was to make clear that this testament is righteous. I brought you to the point where you could have said:
- we accept (then you might loose support in your own group of invaders)
- we do not accept (then you would be criminals... like you already have been ig; so it would be no difference)
It was the offer to continue your storyline in a more dramatic way. I wonder why you hesitated to follow, since this is what you as invaders have started.
Finally, the main shortcoming seems to me:
You have not played your own storyline in a consequent way. Think more before you start something like that the next time. And think about if change is always good. And if you can make it better.
It is your turn now.
you are aware that within an hour I attacked one guard and chased another down a well. A day or two after had a fellow lizard start trouble just to make the town guard "namely deuce" look like an idiot. We tried to cause a bit of rebellious trouble but it was actually hard to find any of the take over group around tb
