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I have a few suggestions for the fighting system... i know that poor mr Nitram finished it .. but.. erm, i just was inspired now

Armor:

Heavy armor should reduce your chance to hit as well as the chance to dodge (effectivly reducing your agility)... however, to combat it.. there is still new and improved skill.

Heavy Armor Usage

This skill allows a user to use heavy armor without much of a problem. Personally, if i were to wear platemail, i DOUBT that i would even be able to move, let alone fight.

Up to 50%, it works to negate the penalties cause by that one above ^

Above 50%, you have become soo good with the armor, that you actually get a bonus. An enemy looking at an opponent with platemail, will except a slow movement, which would allow you to attempt sneak attacks, and generally surprise to hit more.

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Health?

A way to see the health of opponents.

Now this would use the anatomy skill, with a penalty for strange creatures (Undead or creatures with strange anatomy), and a bonus for humanlike creatures.

Now, its not fair that everyone sees (for example) 5/10 HP.. instead we shall use a %age.

Now the size of each mark of the scale depends on the skill.

1 mark = 100/[skill amount + 1]

For example, a person with one skill point will be able to see that an enemy is Alive (100%) Half dead (50%) or Dead (0%).

As the skill increases, so will the precision of the reading increase.. up to 100% skill (techinically 99%), where you can see it with pinpoint presicion.

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Discuss?

Fighting is fine and balanced the way it is currently.

Adding even more skills into fighting system...eh

Hadrian_Abela wrote:Heavy armor should reduce your chance to hit as well as the chance to dodge (effectivly reducing your agility)... however, to combat it.. there is still new and improved skill.

You propose something that is allready in. You become old

Hadrian_Abela wrote:This skill allows a user to use heavy armor without much of a problem. Personally, if i were to wear platemail, i DOUBT that i would even be able to move, let alone fight.

I think the fighting system has enougth skills

Hadrian_Abela wrote:A way to see the health of opponents.

Errr... no

Nitram

Infact the only thing that needs fixing (but is already in process) is making a more definitive difference between a new fighter and a master fighter. As it is the current damage between a new character and an experienced one using the same weapon is pretty minor. That is really all that needs to be fixed.

The damage is not too different. That is caused by the small range of damage the system supports.

The real difference between a strong and a weak fighter shows in the parry and dodge rate.

The difference is fine i think.

You won't see a difference at the mummies. That logical.
You will see a difference at flying or demon skeletons

Nitram

Hadrian_Abela wrote:A way to see the health of opponents.

Would be nice, like having a good old hit point bar over your char's head, deactivatable (what a word!) by hitting F12...

Why not. Nothing I'd spend time for, though.

The rest: See Nitram's post.

I prefer the no hit bar ;]

I enjoy letting people beat my characters in duels, and when the time comes when it counts rubbing thier face in it ;]

Hadrian_Abela wrote:A way to see the health of opponents.

I don't like the idea at all, to be honest. It makes PvP fights entirely uninteresting. There's no surpise. You know when you have to run so you don't lose.

If we implement that, we could just as well show the highness of skills in numbers instead of a bar with colours.

i agree... i think that the health bar would turn illarion in a clasical hack-n-slash game

The damage is not too different. That is caused by the small range of damage the system supports.

The real difference between a strong and a weak fighter shows in the parry and dodge rate.

The difference is fine i think.

i like that, i like that really. the difference between an experienced fighter and a newb in rl is not how much damage the sword does, it is how good they are with parrying and dodging.

hitting someone with a sharp sword isnt much difference if you are now skilled or not. but the difference of blocking the hiot, or dodging, is much more different by higher and lower training.

Avalyon el'Hattarr wrote:i agree... i think that the health bar would turn illarion in a clasical hack-n-slash game

It already is.

Bring back RP focus!

its hack and slash because people dont want to RP fights anymore, all it is now is crt click while hes not looking

Sadly, it is.
I tried several times to get into one and I get crtl clicked.
That is the way it goes as of late.
Lets just dump all the skills, attribs and items.