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english vs. german
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:02 pm
by Avalyon el'Hattarr
please...... the ones that know both english and german, please post in english, because there are a lot of people that don't understand anything and maybe they too can use that info
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:03 pm
by Nerian Finera
for example...?
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:04 pm
by Hu'greu
hes just worried the german players are making fun of him in german
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:05 pm
by Chiara
Oh yeah, we have nothing better to do

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:05 pm
by Enwell van Illdoran
huh... what exactly do you try to express with this thread?
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:06 pm
by Nerian Finera
uuh...i'm sensing a flame war coming up...*jumps back into his hole*
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:07 pm
by Avalyon el'Hattarr
per example there are many threads that i whish to read but i can't, because i don't understand a darn thing...
What's so hard? it's just a simple request don't be so rude
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:07 pm
by Korm Kormsen
we got an old saying in the family:
one can eat everything, but one can not know everything.
Avalyon,
if you meant me, i had to say something to nitram, that he has to know. and if he knows it, he will change it.
so dont burden yourself with unnecessary things.
korm
edit:
there is a not so small group of german speaking players, with the same complaints, just the other way round.
they say the whole forum is just in english so they dont understand anything.
should we all try to learn esperanto?
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:08 pm
by Nerian Finera
no one's trying to be rude...but there are some things, some people can't express in english, the way they could in german
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:11 pm
by Enwell van Illdoran
and if something is interesting, sounds/looks interesting for you than please quote it and ask for an translation and you surely get one.. but if we are comunicating with devs which are speaking native german, than we prefer the easier way to speak in our language, cause german dev language is already tough enough for a rooky like me.. kay?
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:13 pm
by Avalyon el'Hattarr
I understand this.. but i'm not refering only to me... i'm not the only non-german talking player around here..
And my native language isn't english as well, but i do my best
Sorry if i've offended anyone with this thread
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:14 pm
by Nitram
There are players around who don't understand english. Not even a small piece of it.
If i write something importaint for all, then i write in two languages.
But if i have to answer a german one, and it has to went fast, then i write in german. It is done faster.
If you want to read everything here, then learn german

Learning something new, is never wrong
Nitram
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:16 pm
by Enwell van Illdoran
dev of my dreams *melts*
couldn't tell it any beter
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:17 pm
by Avalyon el'Hattarr
well... honestly i've learned german for about 8 yeares in school but ....... hey it was school.... you tend to forget things
Topic closed

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:21 pm
by Enwell van Illdoran
where you from anyway?
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:21 pm
by Korm Kormsen
Avalyon,
i learned english in school. i left school in 1968....
if you really want, you can remember forgotten knowledge.
korm
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:29 pm
by Avalyon el'Hattarr
i'm from romania
@korm : english is the most "learnable" language, when german.. well... it's kind of hard

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:30 pm
by Aurora
well Avalyon, I suppose that German players speaking English will post important topics either in English or in German AND English.
Rest assured, if it is rp or game relavant, it will be translated so that also non-German players will understand
otherwise assume that it is not really that important

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:07 pm
by Ku 'Agor
Esperento sounds awful. An idea of bringing countrys together with a common language? Psssh! Everyone learn english or DIE!

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:08 pm
by Aurora
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:16 pm
by Garett Gwenour
I have noticed sometimes that some german players that can speak english begin to speak in german to prepare for a surprise attack. I think it is a cheap tactic but well, they can always say they are not so good at english

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:17 pm
by Dónal Mason
Or the CHARACTERS could be speaking the old tounge because they know your character doesn't know it.
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:18 pm
by Garett Gwenour
Yeah that is true too, but at the same time it is not the character that doesn't know the old tongue, it is the player. I could speak spanish and say I am speaking albarian and their character just doesnt know it.
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:19 pm
by Urilen Quanasuard
There's one solution to the German/English languages.
Make a Illarion Language.

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:21 pm
by Aurora
oh come on ... even if German players' chars 'communicate' ingame, knowing that English players are present, they often switch from German to English
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:37 pm
by Korm Kormsen
garret and donal,
there is no point in accusations of that kind.
i could bring examples, where english speaking chars or players took advantage of non english speaking chars/players.
in each and every group there will be "back sheep".
or do we want a flame war?
i, personally think, that most of the germans here are showing enough consideration to the fact, that most north americans just know one foreign language: english.
yours,korm
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 10:06 pm
by Nitram
Garett Gwenour wrote:I have noticed sometimes that some german players that can speak english begin to speak in german to prepare for a surprise attack. I think it is a cheap tactic but well, they can always say they are not so good at english

Get silent, very fast, and don't open your mouth again.
You did exactly the same.
I remember your back to your first attack against Silverbrand.
Some players on the site of the dwarfs weren't able to understand your english. The german ones who understand both, were going to translate it.
And then you attacked, completly suprising, for those who don't understand the english.
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 10:25 pm
by Garett Gwenour
Not true, Arien, the player of the character who died, understood english. I also wasted 5 minutes of my time trying to get the dwarf characters to translate my demands, but they did not. I saw the logs translated, they were telling themselves how to attack me.
Don't try this bullcrap nitram.
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 10:27 pm
by Nitram
Tialdin died and to got not a single word of things you said.
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 10:29 pm
by Garett Gwenour
He logged on and was with several other characters at the time, we all assumed he logged on becuase someone told him his town was under attack and thereby already knew. Besides, we with every fight I start, I spend about 5 minutes talking before going to attack.