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Haslus - Illarion Lizard Language

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 2:36 pm
by Markous
Some of you may remember the old lizard dialect of Gobiath.

It was posted in this forums a long time ago and used by many of the old lizards.

So here it is again:
Xerake wrote:Lizard Langauge

In Illarion, many races have longed to have their own learnable language. After many hours of extensive studying in the major library, a lizard simply known as “X”, with the help of a few scholars, made a language for all of lizardkind to use. The name for this language is called Haslus.

I – Meaning and Structure

Haslus is an SOV (subject, object, verb) language that uses the subject, object, then verb in order. For example:

English: I eat fish.
Haslus: I fish eat.

This may seem odd to some, but it isn’t very difficult. Just remember: SOV. This must go IN ORDER.

As most know, many lizards drag their ‘s’ sounds. The idea from “X” is to use these ‘s’ sounds to advantage, creating meaning based on how long it’s dragged. ‘S’ is said first to indicate the subject, ‘s’ is said to indicate the object, and ‘s’ is said to indicate the verb. To separate the subject, object, and verb, one must use the following to do so:

Subject Object Verb
s s s

For example: ss[fish]s[eats]

For some of you thinking ‘I probably shouldn’t speak this because it’s difficult to say,’ you must remember; practice must always come with something new. Rome wasn’t built in a day, after all.

Xerake wrote:II – Advanced Structure and Conjunctions

Like other languages, longer elaborations on structure and conjunction is a necessity for understanding. One of these conjunctions include ‘and.’ In Haslus, the letter ‘t’ means ‘and.’ In English, you would say “I think garbage is bad, stinky, and smelly.” You would say in Haslus “I garbage bad and stinky and smelly think.” Therefore:

Ex: ss[garbage]s[bad]t[stinky]t[smelly]s[think]

IMPORTANT: On a later note, descriptions come after the object like in English.

And the letter ‘y’ means ‘or.’

Ex: ss[garbage]s[bad]y[stinky]t[smelly]s[think]
In English, this is translated as: I think garbage is bad or stinky and smelly.

Now let’s try a tough example:

Bob and Jill are always thinking how happy or content the idiot really is.

Ex: s[Bob]t[Jill]s[idiot]s[happy]y[content]s[think]t[always]

or:

I ran far into the field.

Ex: ss[field]s[far+into]s[ran]

To ask a question, you simply add a ‘q’ at the end of each sentence to show that it’s a question.

If you haven’t noticed already, lizards NEVER use punctuation while they talk. However, spaces are optional between SOV separations (s s[field]) although I personally don’t. This means no periods, question marks, capitalization, etc.

Xerake wrote:III – Vocabulary

NOUNS/ADJECTIVES

CONCEPT
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Mind = klormin
Strength = klormahl
Wisdom = klornephus

RELIGION
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Altar = zelor
Priest = zelpirh
Temple = zelkalir
Tanora = Zelphia (exception of rule; always capitalized first)

PROFESSION/OCCUPATION
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Warrior = ryula
Mage = ryulor
Druid = ryupilar
Fisherperson = ryuxwl
Gaurd = ryuzelphia

FOOD
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Fruit = xil
Meat = xul
Pastries/sweets = xel
Grains = xal
Fish = xwl

CLOTHING
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Shirt (or any upper clothes) = xoi
Pants(or any lower clothes) = xei
Shoes = xwi

VALUABLES
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Valuables = minik
Gem = muh
Ring = mrh

PEOPLE/REFERENCE
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I/to do with self = mehaphui
Him = mehafoi
Her = mehafui
It = mehaloi
You = mehau
We = mehoril
They = mehorah

EMOTION
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Love/like/positive feelings = netyui
Hate/anger/negative feelings = netli

QUESTIONING/SUBJECT
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What = cevali
When = cevuli
How = cevgai
Where = cevi
Who = cevooi
Why = cevrei

COMBAT
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Weapon = ulomin
Sword/Slashing weapon = ulij
Hammer/Bashing weapon = ular
Distance weaponry = ulir
Monster = ulonua

INSULTS/APOLOGY
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Sorry/Apology = kein
Stupid/Idiot/Moron etc. = kioln

CONDITION
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Poor/Not great/lesser/bad = kiolna
Intelligent = kiolm
Great/Awesome/better/good = kiolma
Cold = calir
Hot = caliu

LANDSCAPE
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Grass = hila
River/Water = hilu
Mountain = hilr

COMMUNICATION
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Greeting or farewell = hirnij
! = (eee at the end of the sentence)
Yes = hai
No = nik

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VERBS
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Kill/harm = kerj
Help/cure = merj
Name/being = verna
Buy = hiruk
Sell = hirek
Trade =hirlink
Pray = kjamir
Worship = kjaman
Use = ralkin
Drop = raccein
Give = varlah
Take = varloh
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This is a very, VERY limited number of vocabulary words. This list will be updated at various times by “X.”

Remember, that this is a world above water. This means that vocabulary terms that are not currently listed are simply what they are in English. If introducing a name, you may capitalize the first letter. But that is the only exception.

For example: The bucket is mine, and has no water.

Ex: smetaphuisbucketyhilunik

Basically, any word that isn’t currently listed, you can use it as English/German.

Example: I am Bob.
Ex: svernasBob.

(Yes, objects also = nouns)

Gnarr wrote:here comes the translation for the german lizards
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hier ist das Haslus Wörterbuch in deutsch:



Gemüt = klormin
Stärke = klormahl
Weisheit = klornephus

Religion
-----
Altar = zelor
Priester = zelpirh
Tempel = zelkalir
Tanora = Zelphia (für Echsen Zshhel-pheey-arrr)

Beruf, Gestimmung, Arbeit
-----
Krieger = ryula
Magier = ryulor
Druide = ryupilar
Fischer = ryuxwl
Wache = ryuzelphia

Nahrung
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Früchte = xil
Fleisch = xul
Süßes = xel
Trauben = xal
Fisch = xwl

Kleidung
-----
Oberkörper Kleidungen = xoi
Unterkörperkleidung = xei
Schuhe = xwi

Wertgegenstände
-----
Wertsachen = minik
Edelstein = muh
Ring = mrh

Personalpronomen
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Ich = mehaphui
Er = mehafoi
Sie = mehafui
Es = mehaloi
Du = mehau
Wir = mehoril
Sie (Mehrzahl) = mehorah

Emotionen
-----
Liebe, prositive Empfindungen, Gefühle = netyui
Hass, negative Empfindungen, Gefühle = netli

Fragewörter
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Was = cevali
Wann = cevuli
Wie = cevgai
Wo= cevi
Wer cevooi
Warumevrei

Kampf
-----
Waffelomin
Schwert, (slashing weapons) = ular
Distanzwaffen (Bögen, Armbrüste) = ulir
Monster = ulonua

Beleidigungen und Versöhnunsworte
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Entschuldigung = kein
dumm = kioln

Verhältnisse
-----
schlecht, arm = kiolna
intelligent = kiolm
gut, großartig, besser = kiolma
kalt = calir
heiß = caliu

Landschaft
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Gras = hila
Wasser, Fluss = hilu
Berg = hilr

Kommunikation
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Grüße und Abschied = hirnij
! = (am Ende eines Satzes „eee“)
Ja = hai
Nein = nik

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Verben
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töten, verletzen = kerj
helfen, unterstützen = merj
sein (Name) = verna
kaufen = hiruk
verkaufen = hirek
tauschen =hirlink
beten = kjamir
verehren = kjaman
benutzen = ralkin
fallen lassen = raccein
geben = varlah
nehmen = varloh

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:11 pm
by AlexRose
Or you could type !l lizard

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:14 pm
by Jon Childs
I prefer Markous' way to say it in common.

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:17 pm
by AlexRose
Jon Childs wrote:I prefer Markous' way to say it in common.
I was joking. I thought it was funny that this big language was devised while you can do !l lizard

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:27 pm
by Liles
We didn't.

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:29 pm
by Aristeaus
The language was made before the !l system.

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:32 pm
by Markous
It's more a dialect then the own lizard language.

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:37 pm
by Nalzaxx
There's too many gaps in it though to be able to use it effectively. Perhaps if there was a more extensive vocabulary and stuff it would be more used.

I for one would use it.

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:17 pm
by Ku 'Agor
I woulden't. I'm trying to learn spanish so I can communicate with immigrants that will one day outbreed the majority in my country, I'm trying to learn German so I can roleplay with more people in this game, the last thing I need is trying to learn fish so I can do something that can just as easily be done with !l lizard

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:06 pm
by Skaalib Drurr
i dont think there should be more vocab because that would just make it even harder to learn. I struggle enough trying to speak german, without having to learn loads more things. Just to show you my poor german i will try to translate.

ich denke nicht, dass es mehr vokabel geben sollt, weil es zu schwer lernen würde. Ich finde Deutsch schwer genug...............end of translation

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:07 pm
by Lahela
Many used it when it came up and it was great. I would still like to see some lizards to speak it. I think it adds more to the game than simply !l lizard but than again you surely need some time to learn it.

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:09 pm
by Nalzaxx
He is not suggesting all lizard characters are forced to speak it....

Merely that it would be an interesting addition to any who wish to.

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:30 pm
by AlexRose
I think after the holidays I'll make a lizard character who speaks Haslus.

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 12:01 am
by Taliss Kazzxs
I love this ill have Taliss speaking it as soon as I can.

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:14 pm
by Skaalib Drurr
why aren't you lizards learning this? I seem to be the only one who has even bothered to learn

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:21 pm
by Dónal Mason
1) It needlessly complicates things.
2) I tried learning some Thieves Cant for a character once and I just couldn't do it.
3) It's extremely, EXTREMELY limited.
4) There aren't a huge number of lizards to speak it with.

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 8:35 am
by Markous
I do speak it. ;)

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:52 pm
by Ku 'Agor
Markous wrote:I do speak it. ;)
So something has come out of this post;

"Note to self; if seeing a lizard who speaks the OOC lizard langauge.. run."

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 2:39 pm
by Hadre Taliset
well i am going to try just because i think it would be funny. 8) as for german. anyone that knows one of my character, Kor Nugrut, Tanistian Kanea or Hadre Taliset. When you see me if you could, say something in one language, then translate to the other. I am trying to learn german :)

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 2:57 pm
by Theon
If I played a lizard character I might give it a go. I doubt it'd be used enough, but if it was then it might break the new/old language barrier. :)

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:29 pm
by swish1
oh so i guess it is like the orc dialect.
But i rather delete my lizard char than read all that!!
Just joking

i try it give.(correct?)

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:32 pm
by AlexRose
swish1 wrote:oh so i guess it is like the orc dialect.
But i rather delete my lizard char than read all that!!
Just joking

i try it give.(correct?)
smehaphuisittrysvarlahs

I made my char>>>Sslastesten

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:56 pm
by Skaalib Drurr
AlexRose12345678910 wrote:
swish1 wrote:oh so i guess it is like the orc dialect.
But i rather delete my lizard char than read all that!!
Just joking

i try it give.(correct?)
smehaphuisittrysvarlahs

I made my char>>>Sslastesten
i speak with your character in dialect!

Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 11:48 am
by AlexRose
Yeah but I was a bit slow; I had to flip through the 5 sheets in front of me with all the stuff written down ^^.

Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 1:56 pm
by Aegohl
Haslus is for old people!

Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 5:57 pm
by AlexRose
Umm... okay.

I can be old.

*Grows a beard*

You see? YOU SEE?????