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How to help - a list with jobs

Posted: Wed May 16, 2001 9:31 am
by Bror
Some people mentioned, that they are willing to help with Illarion, so here again is a list of jobs to be filled:

Current situation
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Two of the graphic artists are currently involved in other work (but have not quit). Both programmers are working on their dissertation and final examinations.

Manual/Tutorial
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Both have to be reworked with the latest changes and pictures from the new graphics. I think Alatar knew someone to make the manual. If so, please post it here.

Graphics support
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If you are able to create graphics in the current (or better) quality, you are welcome to join the graphics team. Right now, there are not many graphics to be created, but some will be needed from time to time.

Graphic coordinator
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He should have an eye on the other artists, know who is working on which graphics, collect them and check if they match the requirements like anti-aliasing, if they are properly croped. The pictures that are send to us by him should go directly into the game (will still take some work for us).
He should create pictures too, or at least knwo what he is talking about.

Sound coordinator
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He should gather all the sounds, people send to Illarion, check if they might be useful, and cut them to small samples, that we can use (perhaps converting to mono).

Story writing
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Illarion should be a roleplaying game, but it still hasn't got a background story. The story writers should create an enviroment for stories and write some on their own. A genesis story and some gods should be created and the races should get a history. The part, that should be ready early, is a short story about the world, that could be used on the homepage for new players.
Perhaps Nanuk can post a more detailed list of what persons he needs to continue the story?

Map editor
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I don't know about the current status of the map editor, but since I receive no replies to my emails, I guess we must find a 4th team to start the editor. Requirements are experiences in creating a "larger" program. The editor should be developed for windows in C++.
If you decide to do it in directX, I could give away code to display the map and the map structure to get started.

Homepage
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We would like to have someone, to answer questions on the board, as long, as they aren't very specific technical questions. He should also sumarize the proposals and bugs on the boards (which are often multiple postings).

Programming
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The general server and client programming will be done by Baldur and Bror. But sometimes there will be parts of the code, that can be separated (like the text display or map editor, which I posted before).

Scripting, Table management
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All the scripts and item tables (which describe the items abilities) are currently written by Bror, since they are often subject of change. Later we will need scripters for that too.

Map creators
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Will be needed, when the map editor is completed.


Everything, you send to us for the game (graphics, sound, stories...), should be free of other copyrights. By sending it in you give us the permission, that we may use it as long as we need it (no taking back of graphics or other stuff).

We want every one, who likes this game, to look through this list, and check if he can do one or more of these tasks. If we keep on doing it with only a handful of people, there will be no improvements anymore.
Please no "I want to help, but have no time right now" postings (now everyone will take map creator, since there is no work for them right now ;-) ).
For the most tasks, we can name programs (and tell you where to get them), that are capable of helping for this work.
Please only take work, that you plan to do. It only hinders us, if you take some work and don't do it.

If you want to help (with a specific work), reply here or write to gods@illarion.de

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Posted: Wed May 16, 2001 11:20 am
by Damien
I will join the story team, already told Nanuk he can send me needed things.
Later on, i would like to help with maps a bit - when an editor is out. hehe.

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Posted: Thu May 17, 2001 10:17 am
by Nanuk
Yes, Damien already joined the Story team :). Tomorrow I will post a list of stories which are needed right now.

Concerning the graphic artists:

On the page of Elfwood (http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/lothlorien.html) there are 837 gallerys with 8-10 artists, ranging from very good to really bad. Some of them also use computer programs to create their pictures. How about writing some of them an email, to ask if they are willing to take part in this project?

Nanuk

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Posted: Thu May 17, 2001 1:24 pm
by Bror
I bookmarked the site. If we need someone again, I (or the graphic coordinator?) will contact some of them.
But the last time I contacted about 20 people from such a list, there were only 3 replies (all negative).

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Posted: Thu May 17, 2001 2:42 pm
by Dax
I would Also like to join the story team

Also I would like to create the map once editor is complete.

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Posted: Thu May 17, 2001 5:17 pm
by Sirius
can i help as map creator ?

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Posted: Thu May 17, 2001 11:32 pm
by Damien
How about a story team ingame meeting later on ? But totally OOC, sure... we should prepare an area for that. I just kinda like the idea...

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Posted: Thu May 17, 2001 11:58 pm
by Jeanderaux
I am interested in joining the story team, and possibly helping out with the magic system and spells.  Right now they are lacking.

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Posted: Fri May 18, 2001 12:34 am
by Sir Draken
For the "homepage" job, would that be like being a moderater?...

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Posted: Fri May 18, 2001 4:33 am
by Hellknightas
i wouldnt mind taking the homepage job. I just something better then playing the game right now.

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Posted: Fri May 18, 2001 5:07 am
by Tinari
I would like to help, but there isn't anything I could do. Minimal programming knowledge (pretty much none). I am not good with graphics. Bleh. I am only good at nagging the people in charge. :D   However if there is something simple that needs to be done, then let me know. I could be a sound coordinator, since I love playing with sounds, reworking them, editing, and such. Such fun. :)

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Posted: Fri May 18, 2001 9:16 am
by Bror
Some details to the homepage job:
I spend about 10 hours a week reading and answering the forum and email. Usualy the same proposals and complaints come up every two weeks (from different or even the same persons). Since I don't have much time right now (blabla insert the text I write in almost every thread), these 10 hours are all I can spare for Ilalrion right now -> as long as I have to read and write 10 hours a week, there will be no further releases of new versions.
So it would be nice, if someone reliable could read the forum, answer the questions, he can answer and gives me a short summary from time to time, with the NEW ideas/complaints (or just copies and pastes them to an email).
A summary of frequently asked questions and proposals in HTML would be nice too. We could add this to the homepage and hope someone reads it and doesn't post the same stuff again.
The person taking this job should have read the forum and played the game for a while.
Since there are german posts from time to time, it would be useful if this person speaks german (if not, just copy paste the whole text).
The person should be willing to fill this job for at least a couple of month.

@Tinari: I will write you an email about the sound

@Sirius: Since there is no map editor yet and will no be for an unknown time, we will ask again, when we need map editors.

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Posted: Fri May 18, 2001 7:38 pm
by Erdrick
If we only knew which programs are good for creating what...
Martin told me to download Jasc... something or other.
Anyway, after I draw i cannot paint! LOUSY PROGRAM.
So, in conclusion, I need a 3-D effects maker.
And one that doesnt take 5 hours to download then i find out it expires after a certain date.
OK?
Also, with storyline, Illarion should be an alternate dimension
which once was a barren wasteland covered by mist.\
That could lead to all sorts of cool underground crypts and
places that are all foggy and stuff.
Just my ideas which I know arent too great but consider them.

Erdrick

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Posted: Fri May 18, 2001 11:37 pm
by Sir Draken
For the homepage job, if they were going to sort of look after the boards, would they have moderating powers?

(Edited by Sir Draken at 11:37 pm on May 18, 2001)

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Posted: Sat May 19, 2001 2:19 pm
by Nanuk
@Dax and Jeanderaux

Welcome to the story team :).

@all
I will open a new thread which will just be related to the background story. Please stick to this thread, if you want or have anything to do with writing stories or if you just want to stay informed.

Braam

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Posted: Sat May 19, 2001 2:48 pm
by Damien
Yee-haw !!!
With Dax, Jeanderaux, Nanuk and me... that is a bunch of creative energy combined i guess. Guys we gonna rock !

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Posted: Mon May 21, 2001 7:45 am
by martin
@graphical topics:

what i'd "dream" of were ppl who are able to create graphics themselves; that means, that they have at least a little experience in using graphical programs (2d and 3d) and know something about that (antialiasing, finishing graphics, different formats, how to use the programs, how to do this and that... and finaly (and nearly most important!):
how to find places where i can find information about a problem i encountered using a special program or trying to create/paint XYZ?
you know, it's very frustrating if i have to explain everything from starting the program to saving a bitmap to 3 ppl, telling them what they should do better etc., when i found out these things for myself, using just my fingers, my eyes and the internet ;)
in short: you should be able to work on your own. i'm no graphical baby-sitter (i would do it, but i don't have the time, and there are SOOOOOOO many places around the net where you can find *exactly* the answers you need, just learn to use search engines!). be independent. be critical about your own work.
i received numerous graphics from ppl, where i didn't even know what it should be (i mean, i liked to see ppl who were willing to help...!). the graphics were 500*500 bmp's (NOT packed!), made with a 2d-program (photoshop or paint shop pro), looked just *terrible*, with many colors in a perspective which does for sure not fit to illarion etc.

now, thanks for trying to help, but these kind of things are just waste of time. i don't want to write back a 1000-line e-mail, explaining what i did not like, how to improve, what program to use, how to zip a file (in fact, i did that one time, but it annoyed me!) etc.

it's just like someone hireing on a shiop who never saw water before. don't get me wrong, but try to find out something about ships and wather first, there are many good ways for that without asking me.

thanks for listening ;)

martin

ps.: what you ALL can do for sure is, to help cuting out gfx...

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Posted: Tue May 29, 2001 9:58 am
by Sturm Feuerklinge
It would be a pleasure for me to Do the forum thingie.....at last I`m not InGame Active, so I got enough  time  to chill in the Forum....say yes, bror, and you got 10 more a week :)

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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2001 9:08 am
by Bror
Sure Sturm, I would be happy if you do it :)
I am just back from holidays and I am already suffering from the emails and forum.
Do you need any more details?

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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2001 5:05 pm
by Anarion
Hi can I help as translator ??
I translate the english texts from english to german
ok ??

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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2001 1:17 pm
by Leif
i can make stories...
i know alot about different norse, celtic and christian archtypes/gods and demons
i could f.example write a story about the demon...
like... he is the demon Asmodeus (greek) or Rex Mundi (in latin)
that is in the bible.... he guards a treasure... since he is the demon for lost treasures....
and so on... i may write how the treasure got there...
e-mail me at leifph@hotmail.com ( with the subject "illarion story")
if you are interested in my story

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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2001 10:13 pm
by Captain Kirk
Hallo

let us hear ur stories :-)

Bye
Read ya
MfG

Capt. Kirk

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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2001 10:10 am
by Bror
@Anarion:
When we need help translating, I will contact you. Perhaps parts of the story team will need a translator?
The most parts of the homepage, that aren't translated yet, aren't up to date in german either. Thats the reason why there is no translation.

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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2001 2:55 am
by Mogu
I would be interested in the sounds coordinator.  I request more information, is there someone I should mail in specific, or just the gods in general?  Or they mail me?  Sladerat@bellsouth.net

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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2001 4:26 pm
by Bror
Tinari already took the job, but you can ask him to assist. Look at this thread:
http://pc-cad0.informatik.unibw-muenche ... &topic=195

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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2001 5:26 pm
by Leif
I wrote about Asmodeus now...
(did some research and found the egyptian name for him , "Aganood")
look for my topic in the roleplaying board.... and tell me what you think...

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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2001 5:36 pm
by Leif
my apologies for duble posting, but i have to tell you... that i have started on the genesis...
or at least the known history... im leaving it very open, so that religions can form in
illarion, with their own belifs about how the world was created...
what do you think about that? should i leave it open for people to make their own theories?
i think thats a good idea... because if for example someone wants a norse team to his life he could say that Ymir made the world , as it is in the norse mythology.
or if someone wants christian belifes he would say YHWE made the world.
or someone could make his/hers own religion... as iwe seen someone has with "the paladin"

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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2001 11:02 pm
by Farlorn
Leif, I think there is already a story team and the genisis stands.
Ask Nanuk or Damien which parts of the story are to be made, for they are concerned with the gods.

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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2001 12:20 am
by Damien
Yah, the gods are standing. We are now discussing the lesser part of the world creationNanuk has some great ideas.
You can find the gods at the background story part at "Legends" and clicking on the above frame "Gods" word.

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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2001 4:37 pm
by Leif
good i'lll make up some gods....
but tell me about you oppinion... in the asmodeus story... does it work?
(ill make a "history" of the world... and send it to you, damien... like a Timeline of the world...)