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I am sorry but now I must complain ooc about the prison jail break. I was fine with letting Cris go. However Ules then posts about how lax the town guard/ governor is. It is entirely unfair because WE were never involved in the board "quest" to save him. WE had nothing to do with it. WE are ingame while THEY use the boards to do this.
And I am getting very tired of people posting about how weak the town guard is by letting Cris escape when infact WE had no choice/say in the matter at all.

To rant further: This would be equal to me posting and saying how Stephen slipped in Devrah's home, ran a hand through her hair and stole a few coins from her without her ever knowing. Then bragging about it ingame.

I know its not your fault, but htink about it in RP-wise.

The guards shoved a prisioner in Jail, the prisioner escaped... who's fault is it?
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Or are you complainign that this was "Forced RP"? or something?

you have a point, I noticed this when I read Ules's post in the trial date thread.

I think, and this is just me personaly,that in the jail break, when sebastion
looked through the window at the guards, he should've stop right there and waited for someone like Stephen to post how many guards there was and what they were doing, instead of him makeing a scenario. but that's just me.

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it wasn't exactly force rp, he did something without Stephen getting a chance to react.

What do you mean Ules did? Cris did as he was leaving town did you even read the message? Also, I didnt do most of the rp for the board "quest", if you read it. You could have posted on it, maybe saying you catch him as he's leaving town. Feel free to do that now, i havent done anything with cris since the rp fight. And if we want to talk unfair, stephen was blocking nearly every shot an 18 dexterity thief with a rapier was throwing, so be quiet about it.....

Yes, you gave your character UBER skill. If we were to actually fight, stephen would have wiped the floor with Cris. Even without armour and without a weapon.
I will post a more intricate post later.

What uber skill are you talking about? he ran and stabbed at you every once in a while. What kind of skill is that? Like I said, stephen was the one able to do 10 things at once with lightning fast reactions. ANyway, thats enough about that.


And it isnt my fault even after hours of training i dont have any dodge at all.

Stephen is a very trained knight in a heavy armor, I doubt any little thief should be able to best him. Thats what he meant im sure.

Ahem.

From the way I understand things, he was "imprisoned" after he had excaped from the guards and logged off due to RL circumstances. So, the prison break was just as fair as the original imprisonment.

And you can try to break in to Devrah's home all you want, she doesn't have one : /

Besides, I can't speak for Sebastian here but there were two things you're not putting into the equation: Devrah has extrememly high agility and moderately high dexterity, and, well, she is a guard. I am sure if she wanted to, she could have talked her way past whoever was standing guard, or perhaps even *been* the one standing guard.

Oh and also PO Sebastian told me that he tried to talk to you about it on MSN before the prison break and you just logged off. Relevant or not, it wasn't exactly meant to play out that Cris would taunt the guards. Not that it matters, but Devrah kind of thought he would be smart enough to just stay the hell away from town after he escaped.

I think the jail concept within itself is pointless. I would actually be more suprised if someone DIDNT escape from jail. I'm not really sure I can name the last person who didnt escape from jail... (Fooser? )

Retlak has never escaped from jail.

No PO sebastian never brought the issue up to me on MSN. I logged off to take a shower and when I come back you two had gone through with the deal.
Also if you checked up on the town guard roster, you would have found devrah was removed from the list around the first of may; insulting the governor won't get you far in the town guard i fear

Here is the problem with you "bad" guy roleplayers. You shout for joy when someone roleplays well in your eyes; this means when you do the cliche #me "stealthily gets behind Stephen, reaches into his bag to find any valuables"; when someone gives you money you call that great roleplay. However, I view that yes, we can allow you to do that (although technically i think there is now a theif skill and that exchange of roleplay won't be needed); but if we allow you to do that you must "give" back to us. This means if your a theif and your caught as Cris was, (three times in total, one time stephen was on top of him bending his arm back, a knee pressed into Cris' back as he lay on his stomach infront the shop; a second time again when Revlen and Stephen were holding him; and a third when after stephen pounded cris' face in several times over you gave up) you should let us roleplay out a trial that we work for.

I do not think this is too difficult to do; if you play a theif, you play a theif, give them physical limits. The thief in question was Cris, he was supposedly a young lad, well built for a teenager but not at all muscular, tell me how can he possibly throw off a man who stands 6 feet 6 inches, full of muscle, how can Cris possibly handle a punch to the face, much less several dozens times, and still run away from Stephen.

Play fairly, or else we will go back to the lame ctrl+click to solve these problems.

Lol check out the flame war in all against S.R

Allright, well guess what? Removing my character from the citizens list without ever notifying me is on level ground with breaking a prisoner out from a questionable arrest

And personally, I think that's bullshit. Removing a guard for insulting you, big WAAH.

Seriously, how can you justify that? "If you have a problem with me, come out and say it" but if they do, you strip them of their positions/citizenship?

Mmmhmm. I smell bullshit...

No, Stephens reason is that Devrah is not around enough to even collect her pay. So he cut her. It is like having inactive members in any guild, you cut them out.

Fooser wrote:I think the jail concept within itself is pointless. I would actually be more suprised if someone DIDNT escape from jail. I'm not really sure I can name the last person who didnt escape from jail... (Fooser? )

wrong, Allen stayed like 2 rl weeks in jail, without even an attempt to escape.


first of all, he can do whatever he wants, for all you know, and what you keep saying, is he's a dictater, yet your surprised when he does something like that?

also if someone agrees with the people who rebel against the governor, wouldn't it seem logical to fire them? or else, the person could say, "I hate stephen, he's a meanie! I'm going to let all the prisoners out!" liek, totally, duuuh.

and I stick by my word when I say, in the biggest city on the island, they kept a criminal who has been accused of muder, theft, and so on and so forth, with only one guard watching him, and he's asleep.

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Stephen's reason is also good

Lance Thunnigan wrote:And personally, I think that's bullshit. Removing a guard for insulting you, big WAAH.

So now we are insulting character's actions? One who has someone control over the guard. That roleplay needs no further justification then NOT liking the other character.

No, the player's actions is what that statement was shot at.

So, PO stephen now must take all moral burdens of the character Stephen?

I suppose I should have the 3 consecutive life sentences then.

hahaha

Devrah Liioness wrote:Seriously, how can you justify that? "If you have a problem with me, come out and say it" but if they do, you strip them of their positions/citizenship?

LOL! reasons? Youre never in game, you never defended the town, the only use ig you are is whining about a government you dont even know of, that is lamer than Stephen's RP thats sure ^^

Oh yes Arameh, repeat everything Stephen said. Way to get a point across. And secondly, PO Stephen made the decision to relieve Dev of her citizenship as guard and citizen, and that's fucking bullshit.

A guard that talk in the back of its governor could be executed in medieval

There were no governors, only Lords, Masters, and Kings I do believe. As Lords and Kings owned claims of land that they acquired. So.. No.

And secondly, PO Stephen made the decision to relieve Dev of her citizenship as guard and citizen, and that's fucking bullshit.

And PO aokan made the decision to kill a baby, that is pretty bad too, but I dont think that stephen should be a bad rper. Firing someone because you don't like them is immoral, yes. Immoral things happen in real life, guess what, it can happen here too. That is NOT bad rp.

Cliu Beothach wrote:

And secondly, PO Stephen made the decision to relieve Dev of her citizenship as guard and citizen, and that's fucking bullshit.

And PO aokan made the decision to kill a baby, that is pretty bad too, but I dont think that stephen should be a bad rper. Firing someone because you don't like them is immoral, yes. Immoral things happen in real life, guess what, it can happen here too. That is NOT bad rp.

Agree, and yes there were governors, king had the kingdom, and who ruled each citys? Governors, or sometimes part of the empire, that all depend on the country, but there were governors.

You're complaining that Stephen removed a guard, who is not loyal to him, and insults him at every opportunity?