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Posted: **Fri Dec 02, 2005 2:55 am**

I wish to ask whom the territory which the oasis lays upon belongs to.

Konsteric Kamren-

Posted: **Fri Dec 02, 2005 3:11 am**

uuh it's ours i guess...

Athian Corulas
Steward of Varshikar

Posted: **Fri Dec 02, 2005 3:24 am**

Varshikar owns it

But in the big picture, I own the island....yes

Fooser I

Posted: **Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:23 am**

Western parts of the desert are belonging to the Kingdom of Silverbrand. To be more exact, every part in viewable range to the eastern border of the mountains of Silverbrand.

Ghorn Gemfist
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Royal Deputy of Silverbrand

Posted: **Mon Dec 05, 2005 3:39 pm**

the oasis isn't on the western edge Galim.

Athian

Posted: **Mon Dec 05, 2005 3:45 pm**

I am Ghorn, Galims brother. Maybe you surfacer thought its my brothers handwriting, but as even a longleg can see I put my name under it.

And that longleg Konsteric asked for the territory on which the oasis lays upon. Not just for the oasis self.

Ghorn Gemfist
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Royal Deputy

Posted: **Mon Dec 05, 2005 3:55 pm**

my apologies for the mistake Ghorn, either way where the oasis itself is does explain the territory it lays on. if i said the oasis is in the north and you said the dwarves claimed the southern parts of the desert for example. isn't it rather clear, to its location. just a thought.

Athianb

Posted: **Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:09 pm**

You may be forgiven, surfacer. Since the oasis lays as good as in the middle of the desert he just could mean the whole sandy thing, aye.

Whatever, the west belongs to us, har!

Ghorn Gemfist
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Royal Deputy

Posted: **Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:30 pm**

Nice of you to call everyone a surfacer, while Silverbrand continues to grab land on the surface for no reason. Silverbrand is underground, and they should stay there. While you make ridiculous claims about land owange, and the rest of your royal brothers sit on their drunken rears, we are fighting a war for the island, people who are supposedly your allies. But fear not, the assistance of the fallen dwarves is not needed, leave these things to the real people of this land.

Fooser I

Posted: **Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:39 pm**

If there is any unwanted land here, you can dump it on me

Allen

Posted: **Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:44 pm**

Silverbrand got no single request for help in the current crisis. If the surfacers are too proud to ask us for help we won't disturb them in their matters.
For us they don't want our help if they don't ask for it, aye.

And it is an amusing joke when a lizard speaks of himself as people, har!

Ghorn Gemfist
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Royal Deputy

Posted: **Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:50 pm**

Well, when undead legions advance across our island, one would think that aiding in driving them back would be self-explanatory. Is it someones pride or your stupidity that is at fault here?

Fooser I

Posted: **Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:56 pm**

The "advancing" happened in Trolls Bane and at the Grey Rose castle. We won't give up our defense and let Silverbrand left back vulnerable just to help the longlegs in defending their wrong placed castle!

Ghorn Gemfist
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Royal Deputy

Posted: **Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:58 pm**

Why do you care about defending Silverbrand? It's already a dump as it is.

Fooser I

Posted: **Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:12 pm**

I take that as a "No thanks we don't want and need Silverbrands help". Have fun playing with the skullheads, crazy scaleback.

Ghorn Gemfist

Posted: **Mon Dec 05, 2005 6:37 pm**

Having thoroughly studied the cartography of the island at some length it becomes apparent your borders begin and end around the throne of Irmorom and surrounding mountain range.
It is conceivable at a stretch that your borders lay on a small spit of sand yet assuredly not any real track of desert.
Personally I care little but it is a fact that land is the heritage of the entire island perhaps the dwarfs should be careful how much they try and fit into the subterranean halls.
As I am so I remain
M.Melchore of varshikar

Posted: **Mon Dec 05, 2005 6:50 pm**

If you would read the treaty with Trolls Bane more carefully you would see that our land is not just the borders of the mountain, but also every land in viewable range to the border of the mountains.

Not the bad drawing on the map counts, but the words written down in the treaty, aye.

Ghorn Gemfist

Posted: **Mon Dec 05, 2005 6:52 pm**

Who cares about the dwarves? I haven't even seen a dwarf in a long time. Did you all suddenly gain an aversion to sunlight?

Donal Mason

Posted: **Mon Dec 05, 2005 6:54 pm**

Well...why should ya see a dwarf? I think even a surfacers knows that the dwarves live UNDER the earth. We keep in our realm if not other necessary.

Ghorn Gemfist

Posted: **Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:02 pm**

Then you have no use for land above ground.

Good to see that's all cleared up then.

F

Posted: **Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:25 pm**

It's still our realm, nice try crazy frog. When you buy a house its roof belongs to you also, not just the inside of it, right? Same is with the mountains and the area in vieable range.

Ghorn Gemfist

Posted: **Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:02 pm**

Since when were we discussing roofs?

You crazy bearded halfling, go to Greenbriar if you want to make use of the surface. And stop shaving your feet.

Fooser I

Posted: **Tue Dec 06, 2005 12:38 am**

I was just asking as i often camp at the oasis, and i would like to purchase it from whom ever owns it. If your price isnt to great.

-Konsteric-

Posted: **Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:55 am**

Galim wrote:The "advancing" happened in Trolls Bane and at the Grey Rose castle. We won't give up our defense and let Silverbrand left back vulnerable just to help the longlegs in defending their wrong placed castle!

Ghorn Gemfist
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Royal Deputy

You eat the wrong Mushrooms? The Castle was builded before Silverbrand were placed where its now is. And we have an Allie or am i wrong? Are you the new King of Silverbrand? I met you 2 Times and i believe that i dont really like you.

Posted: **Tue Dec 06, 2005 2:16 am**

You tell him Alex!

F

Posted: **Tue Dec 06, 2005 2:23 am**

Hey Ghorn.

You're own Kingdom doesnt declare the oasis is part of their kingdom. I've been nice enough to copy the map they provided to all to see there borders. Take a look.

Kingdom of Silverbrand wrote: Borders ~ Grenzen

The borders of the kingdom of Silverbrand, aswell as Troll's Bane. ~ Die Grenzen von dem Königreich Silberbrand, sowie Troll's Bane.

So Troll's Bane and Silverbrand don't own it.

-left unsigned-

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:00 am**

No more remarks Ghorn ?

Jacob Kent

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2005 3:31 pm**

Galim wrote:If you would read the treaty with Trolls Bane more carefully you would see that our land is not just the borders of the mountain, but also every land in viewable range to the border of the mountains.

Not the bad drawing on the map counts, but the words written down in the treaty, aye.

Ghorn Gemfist

What does a treaty with Trolls bane have to do with a desert outside there control? they can't tell other territories how to respond with there lands. just as you can't tell Varshikar that any agreement with Trollsbane means anything to us. There's no current Treaty i have on record that pretains to Silverbrand and Varshikar when it comes to the area of the desert. thusly we'll consider the desert region split between the orc's and ourselves. if that isn't to your liking then i suggest you contact the 'proper' people.

Athian Corulas
Steward of Varshikar

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2005 6:41 pm**

Well we all know it belongs to the one....the only....Lord Balren Goldsmith! And before 'tough' people start saying they are going to kill me...i was joking! isn't that wierd?

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2005 6:48 pm**

((please remove those smileys ^^ thank you
BTW this is an RP thread ^^))

Why dont we just leave it a neutral zone?
Its not verry firtile as far as i know unless you have a lust for sand.
The oasis is small and useless to most money making purposes.

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