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Ban Notice

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 9:57 pm
by Ezor Edwickton
The lizard Fooser and the orc Alkuurg, are banned from the town untill further notice.
They are charged with attacks on the Town Gaurd

Derek Corydon, Town Gaurd

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 10:03 pm
by Liles
Maybe you should check the town rules for bans from recruits. If you are not a recruit then the Town guard charter needs updating, if you are...Read up on what you CAN and CANNOT do.


~Liles~
Squire of Kallahorn

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 10:12 pm
by Ezor Edwickton
The charter needs updating.

Derek Corydon

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 10:32 pm
by Liles
Very well, I will do my best to unhold the law.

~Liles~
Squire of Kallahorn

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 10:42 pm
by Lennier
"Recruits of the guard are free to answer any act of violence with necessary force and may of course act accordingly when encountering anyone currently banned from town within the town."

These sentences are part of the charter of Trolls Bane (seted up by the guards and agreed by the citizens, who did not used their right to protest against it). It allows, that recruits can react directly against troublemakers. A time limited ban is a direct reaction to keep the order - In my view.

The recruit also made clear (in use of some few words), when this ban ends (propably) - When there is a new decsion by a full guard.

Your Lennier
Earl of the Grey Rose

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 10:44 pm
by Farel Leonsepth
I shall vouch for Derek's decision.

Farel Leonsepth
Guard of Trollsbane

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 10:56 pm
by Shandariel el Lysanthrai
I don't believe that Fooser and Alkuurg would attack someone in the town without reason. May you tell us what lead to this incident? What happened before? Maybe you was unfriendly and insulted them?

~Shandariel el Lysanthrai~

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 10:59 pm
by Callith
This ban is tempoary untill I am given a detailed account of the event from both sides.

Shandariel, being unfriendly and insulting is no reason to attack someone in town, even if this was the case they would still be banned.


Callith

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:02 pm
by Shandariel el Lysanthrai
Callith, I would like to know what lead to the happenings. Just writing "attacked me" is not enough. I know the two, they won't attack without a reason, and I think someone gave them a reason.

~Shandariel el Lysanthrai~

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:07 pm
by Farel Leonsepth
Shan

Dear lady, they attacked the guard, and for whatever reasons need to be banned until this issue is resolved, if they com under danger in the wilds, im sure we can reconsider the matter, but this is for the safety of all included. I personally like Fooser, he is dear to me, yet we cant make exceptions where it pleases us.

Farel Leonsepth

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:11 pm
by Callith
The only justified reason they have for attacking a guard, is if they were attacked first, if that is the case then I will deal with the offending guards. That is why I need a detailed account from both sides.


Callith

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:18 pm
by Shandariel el Lysanthrai
So that means everyone in town is allowed to insult others like they want. To spit into their faces or dishonor them on any other way and is safe and can do that like he want as long as he is on town or a guard?

~Shandariel el Lysanthrai~

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:22 pm
by Callith
Simply if you feel your honour has been insulted, you duel them outside the town walls. If you start the fight in the walls, you will be banned, it is that simple. If you still do not understand, perhaps you should read the laws.

Callith

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:27 pm
by Shandariel el Lysanthrai
But there may be some peoples who don't want to go in front of the gate with you, who will stay inside the town, laughing at you and continue their mocking. What is than? So there is nothing someone could do against someone other hiding behind wall and laws and has fun at insulting and dishonoring others?

I am just curious, thats why I ask. Insults should never be taken lightly. They can hurt like a swordcut. Even more.

~Shandariel el Lysanthrai~

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:00 am
by Fooser
How long is the ban for the guard who put a knife to Revlens neck?

How long is the ban for the guard who ripped open a wound, showed it to a female, and harassed her further verbally?

How long is the ban for the numberous guards that have a quicker reflex to grab their sword than to represent a reasonable thought?

Your hiring practices and overall behavior are sickening, I am sick of it, many of the other people of this island are sick of it, and many citizens of Trollsbane itself are sick of it.

The events of today are just more to add to the chronicle of stupidity that is the town guards, which are yet to this day not actually backed up by the people of Trollsbane. Not only that, but most either 1) Dont care or 2) Dont like the guards and their distateful acts.

The only people whose safety is threatened here are dumb guards, so if a ban is needed to protect dumb guards, so be it.

I applaude Alkuurg's actions, and any actions similar to this, and given the same circumstances, I would support him again in the same way.


F

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:16 am
by Falcon
Where is the Ban for when Revlen attacked me and gave me the gash, then threatened me further?

Yes, i held a Dagger to his neck. For one, he said he was with Akluurg. Two, Kryssia was provoking ME before i even spoke with her. She incited Akluurg to shove my ring down my throut. When i refused, He attacked me with my battle staff. At Which time Derek, Kamik, and Ber went after Akluurg. At this time, Gabon showed up, and was attacked for a reason i do not know, he was most likely helping his fellow orc. Three, I did no agressive move other than keep revlen away with the dagger to his neck, had i not held the dagger to him. He would have, in his animalistic nature, attacked me without blinking. As For opening my gash, Revlen caused it. While we were both on duty as Guards. so i don't want to hear anything from you Fooser, you don't know the situation, you just saw what you wanted to see.

After this incident was over, I questioned kyrssia, At which time she said i had no proof. which i do, Since it was the ring i had given back to her. And i had heard her say before this all happened: "I will kill him myself." After i had heard this, Akluurg had exited the shop building. At which time he tried to make me eat the ring constantly till he attaked me.

Dei Gorgeon
~Recruit of the Guard.

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:21 am
by Fooser
I don't really see what the problem was, Akluurg was just sweeping the filth from the street.


F

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:24 am
by Liles
Seems he didn't do a good enouth job

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:24 am
by Falcon
Filth from the streets? when Varshikar is crawling with Assassins and robbers? wow your a hypocrit arn't you.
-Dei

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:32 am
by Moirear Sian
Watch your tongue.

~Sian of Varshikar

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:37 am
by Jacob
I would think it's proper for Kyrssia to also be banned from Trolls bane. I was there when she was inciting Alkuurg to attack recruit Dei. I told her it would turn into a blood bath and she did not care. In my opinion she shares as much to blame with the battle as Alkuurg and Fooser.

Jacob Kent
Recruit of Trolls Bane

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:42 am
by Shandariel el Lysanthrai
For me it looks like Alkuurg and Fooser tried to help a guard and a woman which got harrassed and threaten by Dei. Dei, you did a failure before. You broke Kryssias heart, you wounded her soul. And later you wounded Bailey. And now you threaten Revlen and harasse Kryssia and you want to ban peoples who tried to stop you? I am dissapointed Dei. I hoped you learned from former failures and won't do them again.

And I am not pleased to hear how the guards have quarrels and arguements under each other and how others got involved bevause they want to help, and after that got punished for their try to help.

~Shandariel el Lysanthrai~

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:43 am
by Callith
ENOUGH of this.

Why is Fooser and Akluug banned, who did they attack? Why did they attack? What was the result of the fight.

If I do not start getting the answers I need to make an informed choice, I will have to make an uninformed choice, which will be that I get rid of every recruit and start fresh.

Fooser, let me answer your questions in order.

No ban as Revlen was not hurt.

No ban, because showing a wound to someone is not against the law, nor is it against the law to insult people, which I have already stated, and you know well enough Fooser, or when Pendar came to be captain you'd probally still be banned.

If you have a complaint with the guard you can bring it to the proper authority, which is me, I will not run the same cushy guard as Pendar did, if there is a vaild reason to kick out guards I will do it. Also, if anyone wishes to join the town guard they can, if you don't like the guard, join it or make suggestions towards it's improvement, don't stand around in the streets muttering when a guard walks past.

The guards are still people of this town, and the guard was set up to protect the people of this town, that includes other guards.

To your final remark, I still don't even know what happened, this is another case where stupid people have a problem with the guard, and then don't bother to tell anyone what it is.

Callith
Temporary commander of the Trollsbane Town Guard.

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:46 am
by Jacob
Shandariel, you are making yourself look iggnorant. You were not at the situation, instead your hearing a clear slant from Fooser. If you do not have the whole picture then you should not give your opinion on what happened. Dei and I were going to spar, Kyrssia told Alkuurg to shove her ring down Dei's throat. You say it's his fault for not marrying the woman he didn't love? Kyrssia did not care about people who would die, she is a dangerous woman with secrets I think you would cringe to hear about. Revlen assaulted Dei prior and was going to assault Dei again today because Alkuurg was going to attack Dei.
Now Shandariel, please stop giving your opinion about a battle you missed and drama you haven't heard.

Jacob Kent
Recruit of the Town Guard

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:47 am
by Thomas Jin'takar
Callith wrote:I will not run the same cushy guard as Pendar did
Hear hear, fellow people!

Callith tries to grab all the power for himself, now Pendar is asleep.
Watch yourself, Callith, for my gods are watching you.

~Thomas

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:50 am
by Shandariel el Lysanthrai
Not married her? He lied to her, promised her to love her and to make her to a happy woman. He played with her feelings and her love while he had his eyes on an other woman. And than he left her on the day of her marriage, telling her he love someone other. And you wonder that she don't likes Dei? That she wishes bad for him?

I know everyone of the peoples involved in the quarrel. And I know and can Imagine what happened, and why. You are the one who have no knowledge, nothing about what happened before. About how the peoples feel, how others want to help them.

~Shandariel el Lysanthrai~

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:53 am
by Cliu Beothach
I am just curious, thats why I ask. Insults should never be taken lightly. They can hurt like a swordcut. Even more.
Only for the weak.

Aokan

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:54 am
by Jacob
How she feels doesn't matter elfess. The fact that Kyrssia put nearly 10 people in direct danger by causing a battle because she was heart sick should sound the alarm in your brain to stop argueing for her. She is in the wrong and your in the wrong for defending her. Or would you prefer all 10 people have slain each other because she coaxed Alkuurg into attacking Dei? Do not think you know how others feel, you do not know how I felt when I thought I was going to have to fight a new friend, Alkuurg today. You do not know how Dei felt when I told him to let Kyrssia talk herself to death, she was threatening us both. You do not know how Berengar felt about having to risk his life protecting Dei.

Jacob Kent
Recruit of the Town Guard

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:55 am
by Thomas Jin'takar
Don't we all remember Callith, the elf - Following Grant Herion on his path of the Movement?

Watch out who is grabbing for your leadership, people of Troll's Bane.

* Thomas

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:57 am
by Callith
Congratulations Thomas,

You are infact an idiot. Under Pendar the guard could get away with breaking rules, killing people with little reason, under Pendar the guard began to decay, we had drunks, and ex-assassins let in. He would let in anyone who could hold a sword the correct way up, the true problem is, that Pendar was made captain, from recruit, he was never a full town guard, and so he never fully understood it. Pendar is a good man, and a great friend, he can inspire great loyalty in people, but he can not run the guard effectivly, he doesn't tell people his decisions, he doesn't even announce to other guards that he has recruited a new person, he has not updated the roster in months, it has got to the point, where people who claim Pendar's plan was to promote them take that liberty upon themselves now he is unable to confirm or deny that information, Jacob Kent, I've never even heard of him, yet he is one of my recruits? Yet I am the one grabbing all the power for myself? I was his second in command, it is my duty to run the guard and improve it. I can not do that by running it the same way Pendar did.

Callith