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I think we need a scroll that will teleport us back at Town. I could find many ways "where" or "how" you can find those scrolls, but that will change the whole think.

You just can buy em at Store for a price in a range of 150-300 gold coins. That "big" price will keep their use at low level, but you will have a choice" pay or walk"

Since the map isn't huge, this is no problem. And you really think an orc wozuld understand what's written on the scroll? Maybe it will become a spell for mages, but who knows.

Teleportation is very mighty, and for this, orcs ARE mentaly disabled. Only a few are really intelligent enough to use magic, the orcs you are speaking of are half-orcs, that means, that the parents were 1 Part Orc and 1 Part Human. I think that they are intelligent enough to cast simple spells, simple!!! Ra Kel Qwan is a difficult spell for which you need a high intelligence. Ok, this is senseless, there is no teleportation, a scroll is nonsense anyway and the most orcs are dumb. you agree to that?

Yeah there you go Chyan Gou Messenger
Tatonka bearpaw are you against orcs somehow you humans are weak and easly damaged you always hide behind you giant armors and shields what do you really have against orcs enyway you humans might only go killing small defensles animals just for the fun of it, or spear a grizzly too death just too show youre streangth, well if there is eny downside race its humans they always think they are the superior race.

Oh yes, we humans despise orcs. I have never met an orc I liked.
I speak for every human when I say how much we dislike you foul creatures...
Has anyone seen my husband lately?

Ok, enough sarcasm, back to the subject...
Teleportation (which has been discussed before) over long distances is unnecessary. The current map is not very large (I'm not complaining) but even if it was larger, that's the fun of TRAVELLING.

Not to mention this would ruin a couple of the Rangers' guild tests. hehe

how come no matter how i try to get my message through, it comes out of the end backwards?


ok.... lets try again.

@nameless one

"Tatonka bearpaw are you against orcs somehow you humans are weak and easly damaged "

ok, remember first get something clear, story doesnt and isnt to illarion, nor from.

all right, no, i didnt say anything about Tatonka bearpaw against orcs, i said orcs are indeed
-->not <--  disabled mentally ect.


ok, @ hyssena

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO! NOT AT ALL WHAT I MENT....
again, this isnt from, to, or directed at ILLARION, this is just a story line! not applying to illarion.

ok... lets try again.

hum....

this is the orcs "point of view", it didnt mention humans, nor the human side of the story. But describes some of the mistakes of the rivalry and orcs description and lightly decribes their lifestyle. Its just to counter some thoughts... infact many might thing of the
"oh horrable baby eating green monkey beasts".

not to illarion, i was only using it as... a story, for goodness sake a story....

ok... um...... anything else.....

yes i met you husband hyssena, before you tell him to hunt for my green skin atleast let him see this message...

AND AGAIN, NOT POINTING TO ANYONE OR ANTHING ABOUT ILLARION, just a story line, not illarions story line. I just though that will explain the rivalry between the war between the human and orcs.

....and no, orcs are not invincible either.

i forgot to mention in the description human shaped green creatures.

ok..... and more?

orcs and humans are nearly similar other than strength and color... and no, not all orcs are born stronger than humans, but lets just say average strength compared to humans are above the "normal".

and again, about language, JUST BECAUSE ITS PRIMITIVE DOESNT MEAN ITS STUPID!
basic communication is much better as in quicker communication, but of course have its down side in description and specifing, but not getting to that.

ok.... what ELSE???

um.... hum...... yes, one last thing.

On earth today, we have langauges of natives and ancient ones till today we CANT decode. Its simple, language of pictures, writings of lines ect. If its so simple why cant we decode it? if humans are so smart, why cant we ever figure it out? its MORE advanced then you think! it might even already be CRYPTED! (now same with orc language, but failure to understand leads eventually to lost of interest and then becomes nothing more than a "joke" even) we consider it lost. lost for it will never be discovered, not enough clues or meaning changed. this can easily appied to the "primitive opinion" to human to orcs (not Illarion, in many games or peoples opinion of why orcs are considered so called dumb, which they are not).

@Chyan: My comment was directed at 'The Nameless One' but thank you for the clarification. I think looking at orc culture as something seemingly primitive but with its own secret complexities which are either imperceptible to the outside or lost is a very good outlook. Or would that be inlook? Anyway... interesting storyline.

oh.... hum... slight misunderstanding there......

thought you were scolding me. he he he.

glad its cleared. and thanks about the story line part.


when the map does get big, before teleportation i want to ride on animals!....
ok , lets not overwork the graphic artist and programmers too much ha ha ha.

animals would be really cool
although they would have to be pretty expensive because where's the novelty with EVERYONE having a horse or whatever =), oh well, i can't see any ridable animals being introduced anytime soon.

1. when you ride on a animal, say horse, when you fight or get attack , your animal will take most of the hits... not saying you wont eitehr... anyway, eventually if too much damage..... so it will die.(yes, it regenerates, but you cant heal it. when you cast heal, you heal yourself, unless the illarion team somehow can make you choose who to  heal.. dont see how when your ridding on it, same spot ect.)
2. Some animals... lets say "dragons" and Unihorns are only able to be given to you by a god ect...... and they may have the ability to attack. Gods may automaticly have them.

3. no the health of the animal isnt much so it only blocks a certain amount before it dies.
4. MAINLY, you catch them so they help transportation wise, get around faster.
5. you wont name your horse.... so no names will appear..... well, you can name it but it just wont show. the riders name appears.
6. of course they are going to be limited..... to get a horse in the wild you must get it under control,
ok, go ahead and explain this

there will be 2 types of animals that is ride-able.

Wild and Tamed

Wild animals run away once you get off of them..... to get on them again you must catch one and get it undercontol again.. lasso or ... leash something like that used on it. difficult.
and once your animal runs away when you get off, its anyones animal then... to make it fair, you dont have ownership, so dont be screaming ITS MY HORSEY ect.
When you logg off,its just like getting off of it.
Tamed, you do have ownership and it WONT run away when you get off. Anyone to attempts to ride it will simply fall off . but its attackable.... so it can be killed.. but since it is yours, attacking it would be just like harming you... so yes, you may respond.
When you logg off on a owned horse, that horse will "disapear" as well, when you come back on, the horse will be there where you left it, unless its far and it was killed ect.
how can you tell the difference? well, hope they read the manual.

Tamed horses will look different then wild ones.... perhaps color.... or they may have a sattle, armor, sheet of design ect. Wild ones are just plain.... a horse is a horse... sheep is a sheep ,dragon is...... COMMING TO KILL YOU  RUN!!!

joking




(Edited by Chyan Guo Messenger at 4:27 am on Aug. 1, 2002)

i don't like the idea of dragons and such that can only be giving to somebody by gods. It would create a whole lot of jealousy i believe, and what could a person do to deserve being given something like that by gods? No, i think all animals should be accesible by everybody except that the only limit would be the price.

there are already items that are rare, why not animals?

in real life you cant have everything as well.

when i say dragon, im not really talking about a 72 foot high dinosaur with wings.....

just a large lizzard that may have 2 heads ect.

no need to be jealous..... why any need? they are still used for transportation, just looks better.

again, there are already things out there that are rare.....

as for why would a person recieve such a prized animal..... a quest.... a goal, or some reward ect.... the gods will decide for that.

Sure, why not buy a tamed horse...
but to assure someone dont ride it away, no one else can ride a already owned horse.
perhaps you can buy a wagon or carrage to carry 2-3 of your friends for the ride.

but lets keep it simple right now.

lets atleast get more ANIMALS in the game. then the "riding" part might come.

well if you have a bow cant you shot the rider and steal the horse that would give more things too do if youre a bandit and would give it more realty

let's not make this complicated, the first thing, if this were ever to come, would just be to implement a riding interphase, then you could worry about those other things. But right now it seems like this idea is far off.

@chyan: yes there are items that are rare(i.e. icebird, flute) But those items wern't gifts from the gods, they were gotten by being found or killing the big demon thingy(can' emrmeber his name) so it's a bit differnent then just a gift from the gods.

the reason i said a gift from gods is when you kill a necromancer, how does a unihorn/dragon, or mystical special horse is droped from it?

something like that , a gods quest to summon a group to kill a "necromancer" afterwards rewards the group... ect.

ok instead of all thismagic transportation why not have a transportatiion system like you can buy a pass i mean like horeses something a litile less wierd than what people are sugesging??
i mean some ppl are saying dragons but my not animals like horses?


oh a fair price might be say 5 ignot? 10?

(Edited by Coolandrew at 4:26 pm on Aug. 2, 2002)

andrew, if you accually  read what was posted, horses was the main idea / others. Dragons and other animals "mystical animal" was between the discussion of special animals, like items obtained through some special action event, by or for the Gods of Illarion.

i still don't like the idea of "gifts from the gods" If only certain people are picked to go on hte quests or kill a necromancer, how is it decided who is picked? And even if they did have a system people would be all yelling at the gods saying "Why wasn't i picked??" "I want to go!" ect. It would just create a lot of extra work and complaints the gods don't need.

People who are nerving the gods won't be picked I guess. You shouldn't forget that this also is an RPG, so Killing necromancers isn't the mainidea. this "I want to ride a dragon and grow it like a pet" thing is nonsense! dragons are respectful creatures, not any horses or kitties. So think about the stuff you are posting.

Before I forget, there already are animals to ride, or what are these orcs for? :biggrin:

"People who are nerving the gods won't be picked I guess. You shouldn't forget that this also is an RPG, so Killing necromancers isn't the mainidea. "

"i still don't like the idea of "gifts from the gods" If only certain people are picked to go on hte quests or kill a necromancer, how is it decided who is picked? And even if they did have a system people would be all yelling at the gods saying "Why wasn't i picked??" "I want to go!" ect. It would just create a lot of extra work and complaints the gods don't need. "

no one nerve the gods, perhaps you can win a "mystical animal" (and goodness sake, doesnt have to be dragon, i only used it as a example!) from a even or quest. Oh yes, the quest is going to be pick 5 apples by the way!!!<---sarcasum.

PS. never said killing necromancers is the main idea... where are YOU getting these ideas?
and the only place this taxi will be riding you mrs. bearpaw to is the WALL heehhe.:biggrin:

AND LIKE I SAID ABOUT THE ANIMALS any of them.


1. their health isnt invincible!
2. They cant be healed, only regerate!
3. main purpose is to TRANSPORT!

you dont RAISE THEM! they wont grow! they do nothing but help you get from A to B points faster!!! ...where did i ever say you raise little pet horseys.... did i mention they do DIE? yea, .... if you stumbled to a ogre on a horse.....and your horse is next to it..... its GOING TO DIE DIE DIE! it attacks it just like it was you! but you can alway run away faster ect....

(some animals may attack, but your ridding, not jousting, there fore you may not attack anyone on a horse----- faster speed = no attack)

to prevent hit and run PKs .....