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Is there meant to be anything done about the magic system? Because at the moment nearly no people know magic because the way you gain the runes, through the riddles. The people who have guesed them already think they are so very easy. But for someone starting up and doesn't get any help since the short supply of mages Doesn't have a chance.
Sort of Like this(can never remember the whole message):
"Coal and luk, is the smiths favorite weapon" This might tell you the ingredients but doesn't tell you at all what you should do with them. Which quickly makes the role of a mage boring... Sure you might by chance find a mage, but once you do he might not like you and after that it seems sort of hopeless. Ok, I know people are going to bomb me with this has already been posted, or something like that, but please try not to. Try to find an answer to the problem instead...

the waye to become a mage is a hard way,.... to go them you search better ig for a teacher, he will ell you, how you become the rune from the runestones or he will give you the runes...

Hey, Djironyma would you mind becoming my teacher?

actually if you find a mage even if they dont teach some will at least helpy you get started or point you to a teacher

I didn't really get that part... Was there someone called ig, should I search for IG or should I ask Ig instead of teacher?

ig means ingame

I've got quite a good start on magic, but I haven't ever managed to find a teacher. If you are patient, you will be able to pick up scraps of information from people, piece it all together, and you'll be on your way. My main problem is the vast sums of money I need.

And if someone meets you, you have a fairly new number, and you are casting spells, a sort of distaste immediately comes out because it's obvious someone wasn't respecting what has always been respected.

Well, in all fairness, you used to be able to buy magic-books from the shop at 200 gold per book. So, it hasn't always been so sacred.

Yeah thats true Quinasa. I`m here since Octobre (about five months now ^^). Not very long, I know. But I`m always confused when I see people with 74*** or 75*** fighting with ogres or casting ice flames. My chars cant do that. And I dont want that they can do it that quick. Because it isn`t normal. I Germany we must train 3 years to be full-trained for ONE job, and some new chars can do three jobs very good after one month. Or can cast ice flames after a week. First log in and at the same day they ask someone: can you teach magic? (or something like this)

I think your focusing the blame on entirely wrong people. Without the help of other players, there would be no way of these 'newbies' getting the magic in the first place. And, if they do it themselves, good for them, it isn't easy finding out how to obtain magic, and it certainly isn't cheap.

It takes a lot of money to become a mage, a lot of gold and hard work. And up until recently it was respected.

It was only respected because it was impossible to learn for a bit. Before that only people who dominated the last remaining books hit up prices. BEFORE that you could by them from the shop and get them from the library.

If a young character wants to learn magic then, so long as they can convince an existing mage that they are worthy and will respect magic, I don't see the problem. I think existing mages have a responsibility to not just give away their great and respected secrets, but to analyse the worthiness of the candidate. Then again, if mages don't value their craft, then I can't think of an RP reason why they shouldn't teach to anyone who can pay for it.

Perhaps what is needed is a guild of mages to whom applicants need to apply. Then that guild would need enforcers to cut down on rogue wizards and it would be there responsibility to keep magic respected. But thats an idea that needs to happen in game, rather than here.

I think the magic system is perfect. Its not too easy anymore to become a mage. I also think that the riddles are brilliant because then it allows to players to use there mind. A mage would not let a little riddle get in there way no matter how new they are. So I think it is a very good system.

The magic system is okay. Some of the riddles, I feel, are too vague. Like: "Hept doesn't shiver in the winter."

Hm. To my knowledge, no inanimate object shivers - it could be anything.

But then again, it could just be me. I'm not a fan of deciphering shite.

the riddles are fine, it's the fact that some people spoonfeed people who dont deserve it that messes everything up.

I don't mind too much like I used to. Magic should only be available to a select few characters, and, in my opinion, moderated by GMs.

And no, I don't mean give the character cryptic phrases like "those who are patient will get their just reward," forcing the character to sit on his ass for half a year, clueless still (such was my case until some other character was passionate enough to teach mine when asked). When mage characters tell this to characters who want to learn, that's just a complicated, dishonest way of saying "piss off, you'll never learn." I mean, what else can a character do to prove he is worthy? Be good to the townspeople, help them out, be unassuming, willing to learn...that's all that can be done, especially as a newbie.

...IMHO.

What should happen, is the character should get the answers they are looking for if they have exemplified a real desire to learn runes, have made enough friends to be trustworthy, etc. No sense in teaching malcontents, but there's also no sense in letting potentially well played characters stagnate.

I think you must make atleast three clues to the runes...because two is a bit vague and three would be just great!

The system where you give certain gifts to the guardian really doesn't work... I myself traveled the island just the write down, where every runestone is and which guardian it held and this gave me 2 runes! and I got both of them by accident... And also I think the riddles are hard and perfect just because everybody overestimate them and think that the gifts must be something impossible to get not the most resonable thing that first pops into your head.
Well anyway I was just wondering how hard some spells are to cast...
Well I recently got the rune PEN and which I then combined with___ to create the "Magical shower spell", but ehm I still haven't got the message
PEN + (other rune) I did it over a hundred times and it well didn't work is that normal? 0/100? Though I got the grey smoke thing but nothing more... And my char has a high Essence, intelligence and willpower.

Edit: Magic shower spell = healing spell, sorry for the missunderstanding..

Ghásh Wargclaw wrote:"Magical shower spell"

???? oO

I never heard something about his spell! ^^

I have the same problem, Ghásh. I have skill for it, barely anymore because of events from looooooooooooong ago, but I can never successfully cast it.

I'm not sure if this is what you want to know, but you can't cast the healing spell on yourself anymore.

Estralis Seborian wrote:I'm not sure if this is what you want to know, but you can't cast the healing spell on yourself anymore.

Hey, that's soooooooooooo coo - that sucks.

Why was the healing spell removed from self-useage?

healing...maybe becaus eit makes a mage invincilbe???

And my char has a high Essence, intelligence and willpower.

hmmm...I thought stats were no longer in use...[/quote]

Sordelka, please use the edit function rather than making two posts straight after eachother.

Anyway, stats are still in use. What would be the point in allocating them otherwise?

Sordelka wrote:healing...maybe becaus eit makes a mage invincilbe???

How does it make them invincible? It takes time and mana to cast the spell on oneself, if anything the paralyze spell makes them more invincible than healing.

More over as mages generally wear leather armour. They are most vunerable. I have had far more expierenced mages fall before my axe. Even if they could cast healing on themselves they would then not be casting an ice flame. The stronges healer I know off can heal nearly half health. In leather I could knock that down in two hits propably."depending on there other stats of course".
Sorry for rambeling, merely I think mages until they aquire an exceptionally high level are extremely vunerable.
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