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A new notice is pinned carefully to the wall. The writing somewhat untidy.

To All Would be Lumberjacks and Masters.
Please ensure that you are aware of the rules regarding the gathering of lumber. If you are unsure check the details posted elsewhere on the town wall, or speak to Caitlin fergus. Also please make the effort to see that your workers are properly equipped for their work and the conditions.
Workers should be aware of the restrictions on felling trees and should not be working in this weather wearing nothing but rags.
Masters take responsibility for your workers rather than relying on the good will of your fellow townsfolk.
I am also appalled that some Lumberjacks have absolutely no knowledge of how to plant new trees. How can we protect our forests and so our very jobs if such basic knowledge is missing? Any Lumberjacks who find themselves lacking in this basic area of forestry management feel free to contact me.

Acting Forester of Varshikar
Jeremy Willowbrook

Varshikar? You are apart of it? So I best decide that your ties with the Trolls is strong as well? As you seem to care about forests that are no where near troubling you.

-Kasume-

Kasume,
I consider myself to be a citizen of this Isle...not just one town. Yes I am a citizen of Varshikar. I have no ties at all with the Trolls. I just dont like seeing the forests ripped apart without care when they can be used sensibly. Everyone on this isle is under threat from the trolls if we dont abide by the truce. If trollsbane is attacked and destroyed by the Trolls who do you think will be next? Or do you think they would simply stop? Even knowing that there are other towns on the Isle that also use wood? If one truce is broken do you think they would be willing to enter into another? Then what for all the innocents in this land? Or would you throw them to the trolls? The truce is not just for Trollsbane but for all. It protects all. It must be respected by all. For these reasons ALL forests concern me...as they should you and everyone else. You might be able to fight Trolls Kasume, I know I cannot, nor can all the women and children on this Isle. Or do you not care about them any longer? Respect the truce, respect the forests. We have to use the wood, but let us at least use it sensibly and ensure the forests continue to grow and get stronger to provide wood for us and our descendants, for years to come.

Jeremy
Acting Forester of Varshikar

Trolls are hear by the gods dear Kasume, may you not forget that. If you do not believe me, listen to Damien someday. The trolls are there to protect the forests. And, we shouldn't cut all the trees in the forest, as happens now. Just sporadically do it, a tree here and there. Let's ground life flourish from more sunlight, and lets tree flourish from more space.

You cannot be officially a citizen of something that does not exist Jeremy. There is no rights, no choosing, and no leader to be under at the moment, of the entire island. There is no organization, as Varshikar is under, that rules the land. That is why we have the seperation of towns and areas. Such as the Troll's forests.

Now, onto more.
There is only about, one battle, that I can presume "lost" by the Trollsbane's people. There are many strong fighters that are willingly risking their lives for the people. And I greatly respect that. My regards to them, but that is all. The point Jeremy, is that I believe Trollsbane is a strong community. A strong town. And I believe that the Trolls need to be of no bother. With strength gained and power gained by the Trolls lands, you are increasing, obviously, your standing in resources of the island. We are now restricting ourselves from becoming anymore powerful, in which terms, we deserve. Trees can be replanted Jeremy. Life, does repeat itself. Through the many years of the forests being cut, we still have much trees and forests left to be used. They are still standing from when I first came here. Infact, I've noticed more trees around me after the drought. So obviously, trees and forests are not a problem.

My opinion towards tree cutting. Cut the trees. Cut the trees, continue the economy within Trollsbane and the other outlaying towns. The Trolls, and many who believe in "restoring" this so called "lost forests" can replant them. We are all doing work. And we all do what we believe. We all forward for the better of the community and the island as a whole. Yes, I support what you're doing. Because you believe in it as being a right thing for yourself and the island. Which it is. Yet you cannot tell people to completely stop cutting the trees. As the new laws of Trollsbane imply. The Trolls nack, or nadge, in our lives, is to restore our lands. For wood. What the Trolls ask to be given kindly to, is absolutely ridiculous in the amounts. The southern forests, to the eastern forests. Completely outrageous. They do not need that much land. Our town is not even that big, and we do with it.
Lysu, as you said. The Trolls were sent here to restore the forests. Which they should be doing. If we completely stop and outlaw the cutting of the forests, then we destroy their purpose. We will move on to other problems, and thus, more disagreements, about more subjects. It will all then simply cycle, to the same exact start.

Now Jeremy, I don't see how the in world you ended up with the fact that I do not care about the women and children of Trollsbane, by me implying the thought process of an actual seperation in opinions of the two towns. I simply thought, that something that had completely nothing to do with you, would not bother you.

Now, the above, is implying that we must be at peace with these Trolls. In which, my opinion is no. My opinion, for the better of ourselves, they should be slaughtered and their lands should be claimed as ours. In War times. Would you rather have, one large group, focused thoughts, good organization, information kept within, rather than. Two groups, same power, less organization, scattered thoughts and opinions, and poor communication? We will gain the same power that the Trolls have. By simply getting them out of the way, we open up more possibilities for expansion of ourselves. Not only that, but completely ridding of a problem that could kill countless lives in a semi-trusting relationship. I would rather have them gone, then have a semi-trusting relationship with them. We are just as strong without them.

Trolls are not a must. There are already people within the community, willing to do their job. They are not of a neccessity in our lives.

-Kasume-

I agree, why not just rid the lands of all that stand in the way of people gaining power? That sentence is sarcasm, I would like to point out. No one will stand to break a treaty with the trolls because no one wants another fight with them. Though, Kasume, your points are valid. Why not gather up a group of fighters and lead them into the woods to claim them for Troll's Bane, or yourself for that matter? There is a lot of talk here, but very little is being done about the forests. I haven't seen any lumberjacks hanging from trees for their crimes, nor have I seen any parties out searching for trolls. Even less have I seen of people spending hours toiling to replant trees that the "foolish" cut down.

~Unsigned~[/i]

Unfortunatly, I'm growing tired of combat. Weapondry, and my skills are slowly declining with the recent amounts of new trainings. I'm simply not what I used to be.

Even so, the friends I have, are of the few. And I would never in my life be able to form any sort of group against the Trolls. As friends, very few I have willing to do something of the such or believe in the things as I do. So now, I sit, waltz about, reading fools, tell what other fools should do.

Perhaps we should talk sometime, unknown writer.

-Kasume-

"Lysu, as you said. The Trolls were sent here to restore the forests. Which they should be doing. If we completely stop and outlaw the cutting of the forests, then we destroy their purpose. We will move on to other problems, and thus, more disagreements, about more subjects. It will all then simply cycle, to the same exact start."

Kasume, what you wrote here is not what I said. They are here to protect those forests, not restore them. You do not take away their purpose if you stop cutting them, they would just be succeeding in their goal. Read what I say better next time, and do not lay words in my mouth, that I never said.

Once again Kasume you either misread or understand what is written or decide to interpret it in your own fashion. I said I CONSIDER myself a citizen of the whole Island as I will always work for the good of the entire land....not just any one town.
Secondly I did not say or imply tree cutting should stop entirely. I am a lumberjack and carpenter. I make money from the wood. However, there are those who do not take care of where or how much wood they cut. These people need to take more responsibility for looking after and preserving our forests. They are there for all....not just the selfish few.
Yes trees can be replanted. But there seem to be few who know how and fewer who are willing to do so. Unfortunately it is much faster and easier to destroy trees than replant them.
My understanding is that the Trolls were given only the southern part of the east forest. Not a vast area. We can manage without that small area. Especially if people stop destroying the forest without care and start managing their use sensibly.
If the Trolls are willing to live in peace then we should respect them. They are not animals to be slaughtered, or monsters to be hunted. They are living, thinking, feeling people. Sometimes they seem more civilised than some of us. They offered peace, an end to hostilities, whilst we still want to go on fighting, killing, dying. This is why I asked if you no longer cared for the innocents in our towns. If a war starts they will be caught up in it. They cannot defend themselves. Many will be hurt or killed. It is always the way in war.
If you are itching for something to fight why not work on riding us of the skeleton menace. Make the south forest safe for all. Do something useful rather than doing nothing. Help to make the community better rather than always finding fault with those who are trying. Put aside your hatred for the greater good of all and start trying to make the peace work rather than preaching the beginning of a costly war.

Jeremy
Citizen of this Isle
Acting Forester of Varshikar

We will hear once more of the foolish words from Jeremy. The small, young, inexperianced child.
Stop trying to put yourself into situations that you do not understand Jeremy.

-Kasume-

Maybe I understand some things better than you Kasume. Remember this....you are not infalable, you are not always right. Other peoples thoughts and opinions are not necessarily wrong just because they differ from yours.
Give me the benefit of your awesome knowledge. From my point of view i'm not puting myself into any situations. I live here and these things are happening around me.Therefore the situations are puting us all into themselves. Some people try to deal with them for the good of all as best they can. Others just sit and moan about everything. Watching things happen around them and wondering why life is leaving them behind. Leave the past behind where it belongs and start looking to the future. Stop being a figure of the past, step up and become a man, a hero of the present.
I may be young and possibly inexperienced (though I have seen much in my short years) but I am no child. And I at least act like an adult and try to deal with the problems that appear rather than hide behind the past and wait for others to deal with things. Its not impossible for the old to learn from the young, and the young and inexperienced, with their youth and energy can often accomplish more than the old and weary.
Besides Kasume this was not about you and was not a debate about your feelings about Trolls and politics. I merely stated that people who ultimately make their living from trees should take more care of them. If they do not possess the knowledge to do this they should learn. In this way they ensure their income is protected.

Jeremy
Acting Forester of Varshikar

Kasume, the more and more I read of your writing, the more it sickens me. You do not seem a child, you seem a grey human, walking bended, talking nonsense. You are just a demented fool, who cannot seem to see that someone else is right, and not himself. Please do not post on these walls anymore, you just make them worse than they already are.

-Lysu Davanum-
Member of the Cult of Brágon