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The orcs and their land.

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 6:17 pm
by Elrim
Greetings to all,

It has come to my attention that the Bloodskulls are trying to start up some sort of colony. Despite my past movement involvement, I still do not see how some...Orcs are allowed to have such a thing on this isle, or anywhere for that matter. No one would ever live there. They are much to thick-headed to be able to run their own land, don't you agree? Please, if you will, tally a mark and let me know that I do not stand alone on my opinion.

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 6:47 pm
by Athian
I don't think you have right to decide what they should do with there own land. you fall so easily into the sterotypes made about orc's. I know Most of the Bloodskull Caln personally, and i find that they are more then capable of taking care of themselves. Secondly the land they own isn't meant for you or i or anyone but themselves and who they choose. why should it then matter who would want to live there. the simple fact is they do live there so i guess that answers your question. Bloodskul territory isn't a vaction spot it's someone elses home.

Athian Corulas

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 6:58 pm
by veralion
Thankies much, Athian... Stoopid long ear nub respect, he find head on pike soon...
And me reminds yous, if yous likes to aid Skulls and builds home, find mes an' we talks. If friend of Bloodskulls, yous can live wit us!
Farebaa,

Chief Veralion

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 6:59 pm
by Willum
Willum looks at the posts and tilts his head, then begins scribling on a piece of partchment Why would Troles Bane ever give up land to the orcs? Be warned the orcs are not to be trusted so willingly with land. They betrayed one country why not another?
Willum takes out his dagger and cuts his thumb, then inturn presses it to the partchment. He then walks away.

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 7:01 pm
by Moyáve
I do not see your problem, dear fellow citizen.
Would you not have them rather be in their own...colony, or whatever a place where orcs live could be called, then on our streets, making them not only worse smelling and looking but also a dangerous place, where all kinds of rogues come to do their dirty business and bring their diseases?
I believe you all see my point. It's for no other reason though, that I support the idea of building such a place.

Moyáve

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 7:12 pm
by Fooser
You got rid of a lot of the orcs, but in the process you brought back everyone who lived in Northerot. Such a noble cause it was, for them to go and remove Ark and the others, they forbid her, but then gave the land to worshippers of Moshran. Nice work.

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 7:56 pm
by Athian
Surprizing amounts of hostility i find here. no doubt most of the peoples here have had run in's with not so friendly orc's which by all means gives them rights to opinions though i pose the same, what if all humans were judged by Darloks doings, or Elves for Misjbar and Kalom and so on? maybe your hostilities spring from your inability to defend yourselves from attackers therefore one must scapegoat an entire race in order to overlook there own lackings.

Athian

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 8:01 pm
by Val De Gausse
Val sits in the grass looking at the commotion this post has started...he chuckles to himself

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 8:02 pm
by Moyáve
I do agree it's an unpleasant sideeffect of the fall of Northerot, it sure was the place where the orcs fitted best but Northerot, as a place where all evil gathered couldn't be tolerated. We'll have to find another solution for the Orc problem.
Concerning Athians nonsense theorie, I hope I'm not expected to give my opinion.

Moyáve

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 8:35 pm
by Arkadia Misella
I may have commited crimes, but I have paid for these accordingly. Yet I am still dubbed "evil" and hunted to this very day. Maybe it is those like yourselves who cannot forgive others who are truly "Evil". Your righteousness has blinded you all. For shame.
~~Arkadia Misella~~

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 9:08 pm
by Moyáve
Oh I myself know best that people go wrong ways sometimes.
I collaborated with the evil one who has passed once myself, so I paid my price, I officially apologized and I swore myself an oath that I would fight against the evil one until his death. My price is paid, but I don't see how you paid yours. Otherwise I would of course share my graciousness with you.

Moyáve

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 9:26 pm
by Kasume
Living under the rule of orcs? That's like asking for terror if you aren't an orc yourself.

-Kasume-

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 9:35 pm
by Willum
May the orcs leave the land of northrot alone , and may the fools of TrolsBane come to thier senses befor the orcs get the better of them.

Willum places his mark of his bloody thumb apon the partchment

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 9:36 pm
by Athian
My nonsense Thoery Moyave. So far all i've noted is that is topice as been pulled way out of it's original bounds no ones was even talking of evil and who did what wrongs. if you note the first to posts you'd know that. but you bring your own idiocy with you every time you further this dicussion. simple fact is, it's there land not our, they can do as they please. you don't like you don't have to deal with it, but don't go about labeling every one you see as some evil orc, and i'm certainly glad not be be judged via race on your standard, i'm not near as dull as you.

Athian

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 9:40 pm
by Willum
The "Blood Land" is indeed the orcs because they deemed it so. Were not the forces of TrolsBane also responsible for the lands undoing?

Willum puts his bloody thumb to the partchment

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 9:40 pm
by Moyáve
You can have your opinion, I can have mine, Athian. We are also free to judge these opinions. But at last the one who can reach his goals is right.
Destiny will give us what we deserve at the end.

Moyáve

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 9:43 pm
by Val De Gausse
The town deserves more pain then they are getting

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 9:47 pm
by Grabash Legluck
The following message is written in a large, clumsy handwriting, with coal smearings on it

This bes oor land. Joos nub takes away. Shoo stoopid oomies. Wes takes good care of lands.....

Grab

Joos be surprised mes can write....well mes cans be veri intelligah, and mes helped by Alora....she good stumpie

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 9:50 pm
by Kasume
Personally, I could care less. The orcs may have the land. Yet they shouldn't be demanding things from people outside of the lands or people not apart of their community. Other than that, I am perfectly fine with them owning the land. Let them have it, the last thing this island needs is more damned problems. Which the orcs are good at causing.

-Kasume-

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 12:23 am
by veralion
No udder Skull need answer all of dese oomies comments. Dey too meat headed tos understands anyting and dey grow jealous as wells. Skulls no betray noones. Skulls no demand nuffin from oomies, unless yous needs to get somtin' to come to yous, like hits on head. Trollsbane has nuffin' tos do wif Skulls. And us peoples of land dat yub like Skulls will lives fine. Better dan any of yous wif no home or in Trollsbane. Oomies wif us know to work wif us to help build and nub sit backs n' whine. Dey brave enough to know an orc. Radder dan yous who sits back and place all of yous troubles in life on dems. Cry to mommy n' drink milk, stoopids...
Kasume, yous was sheltered little oomie, you not know meaning of terror or hows orc live. So shuts face up before it get smashed ins.

Yous almost all can nub even answer stoopid long ears question!

Veralion signs his name and puts a check next to how he would love it.

Chief Veralion, of da' Bloodskull Clan

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 12:41 am
by Elrim
Hmm...A large response to my simple tally idea... I only said they were to dumb to run their own land, and that I do not believe us as peoples of the isle should let them have such a large space. It's surprising how many of you go on with your opinions. Does everyone on this isle do that? I must be too kept to myself.. Anyway, I would now have to agree to let them be, it does get them out of the way for us to live our lives anyway. I say, let them run themselves in to the ground with whatever they plan to do there. Maybe then they will fight themselves to the death.

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 12:48 am
by Fooser
Grabash Legluck wrote:
This bes oor land. Joos nub takes away. Shoo stoopid oomies. Wes takes good care of lands.....

Grab

Joos be surprised mes can write....well mes cans be veri intelligah, and mes helped by Alora....she good stumpie
If you were really a friend of a dwarf, you wouldn't call them a "stumpie".

Anyways, the townspeople and orcs were too much of cowards to stand up to Darlok, so they did it after his passing, does this suprise anyone?

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 12:59 am
by veralion
Fooser, you nub know what orc intension be, yous nub know wot dey dids. Shuts fish face when nub know what talking bouts. And Foos...Stumpie not always instult, stoopid...
Yous peoples need no more writes here. Me wills nub more.

Cheif Veralion

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 1:02 am
by Fooser
No, I am quite aware of what "orc intentions be".

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 1:43 am
by Kasume
Actually Veralion, my homelands were completely destroyed and turned into a wasteland because of orcs. Terror is something you don't understand. Mostly because you are all causing trouble by your pety threats. Only once have I ever seen an orc fight without his brethren. You orcs are cowards, nothing more.

-Kasume-

OOC: I've even documented the entire history of Kasume, gods, and so forth. So don't think it is something I just made up on the top of meh head.

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 2:01 am
by Fooser
The orcs attacked Northerot, and displaced many people from their homes, who lived and worked in Northerot. Then they took the land for their own selfish desires, already having a cave. Nothing like the stereotypes right?

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 6:37 am
by veralion
Me not know terror? Mes been on bof ends, Kassissy. Terror will comes to yous feet soon. Den wes will see who coward.
Fooser, yous know orcs can bes selfish, goods. Now go swim or sumptin.
Me tired now...

Chief Vera

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 11:25 am
by Willum
Fooser has a point indeed. People worked in Northrot after Darlocks passing, what more of a threat could it have been? The orcs and the people of TrolesBane attacked and left many with out a home. So why do the orcs deserve the land? This question will most likely remain unanswered untill some thick headed bloodskull trus to answer it.

*singed with a bloody thumb print*

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 8:59 pm
by Koyirk
I am new to Illarion but my opinion counts anyway, I would not let the orcs start this so called "colony", I would and will vote against it, the orcs were made for one purpose, evil, I have NEVER met a "good" orc, and this colony of theres would become nesting ground of evil, from what ive read in this thread, the bloodskull are capable of running a colony of their own, however, are they capable of screening out bands of evil doers, OF COURSE NOT, they are evil.

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 11:53 pm
by Brendan Mason
This shell has known the orcs of this isle to be sickeningly timid and...placcid. They are no more capable of doing evil than a priest or gardener.

a blue M is smudged on the bottom of the note