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				OOC Ceasefire; Northern Stuff
				Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 7:28 pm
				by Bloodhearte
				There is one heck of a mess going on with the OOC aspects of Northerot, so Hagen, myself, and Gwynnether request a stopping of events, meetings, and attacks until everything is straightened out. We would like to know what the GMs conditions are for these current events, and we would like to make sure that the majority of it is controlled by players without interference.
So all attackers, defenders and prisoners, please stop the action temporarily.
Thanks,
-PO Vahkos
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 7:30 pm
				by Caranthir the great
				For my own behalf: I have no problems with this.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 7:30 pm
				by Galim
				i have no problems with that too. i will do it.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 7:42 pm
				by Shukk
				I agree with Bloodhearte, Gwynnether and Hagen...
Let's stop actions..
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 7:52 pm
				by Alice
				No objections yet.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 8:03 pm
				by John Irenicus
				I'll stop all actions too.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 8:20 pm
				by Val De Gausse
				Yea shoulda said this earlier....sorry for the littl ebattle this morning
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 10:33 pm
				by Arkadia Misella
				...in agreeance.....
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 10:37 pm
				by Grant Herion
				Whats there to sort out...?  Lyrenzia guards took over Northerot.  Some are outside in the courtyard, others are in the castle.  Northerot guards and Grant are trying to uproot Lyrenzia and take Northerot as there own again.  
But yeah, I deffinetly agree, I do not like how GMs got involved with this, even when Darlok was alive, it was impossible to beat him cause of super powers.  but then i cannot complain about this since Grant got uber powers for a short time too..  I dunno, I think the GMs shouldnt dictate what happens ingame.  I think it got out of hand with the Northerot guards and Lyrenzia guards.  
And all the powers that went with it...
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 10:48 pm
				by Moathia
				@Grant
Well despite the fact that you haven't been in game for months, your still trying to say your right, well if you had been on yesterday, you would know that Notherot changed hands about four times in as many hours, as Zerbus attacked, won, counted attacked and ran away, then he counter attacked and won, then we counter attacked and won, and now I don't know who controls Notherot right now, so untill everything is established, I agree with no more fighting.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 10:51 pm
				by Grant Herion
				Well, whoever controls the castle controls Northerot right?  Obviously lyrenzia people held the castle.  Maybe the castle shouldnt have gates in the first place then.  either way, it hasnt been months, maybe a single month.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 10:53 pm
				by Moathia
				It's not that obvious, Zerbus could hold the caslte for all I know right now.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 10:56 pm
				by Grant Herion
				Your right.  I see the need for a ceasefire.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 10:56 pm
				by Grubba
				No fighting?  ok, more time for training.  
Yeah the GM's should really help out in these wars, since without them, we will keep fighting till we all quit.  Besides, all the GM stuff is fun, like you can rp blowing up a wall and the GM's can really take it away. 

 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 11:00 pm
				by Grant Herion
				But whichever side has a GM is going to win no matter the numbers.  Or skills.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 11:16 pm
				by Grubba
				No I mean have a GM watching the battle, not on anyone's side.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 12:37 am
				by The Returner
				Thats a DM.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 1:35 am
				by Kasume
				Grant Herion wrote:But whichever side has a GM is going to win no matter the numbers.  Or skills.
You intertwine two GMs into the two opposing sides. And they fight in major battles.
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 4:58 am
				by Grubba
				Uhhh... yeah, that would work too.  Just as long as it's fair on both sides.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 5:18 am
				by Arkadia Misella
				Grant. You should cease gathering your "army" to take back Northerot at this moment. Please respect the request made. There is much still to be sorted.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 1:07 pm
				by Galim
				Arkadia is right. after such big fights (and that were big fights) the troops must rest, gather and prepare the next fights. an army cannot fight each day or severel times a day. not in time were war doesn't mean walking and shooting, but walking in heavy metal and swinging huge, heavy weapons for hours.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 7:18 pm
				by Bloodhearte
				Grant Herion wrote:But whichever side has a GM is going to win no matter the numbers.  Or skills.
The GMs can help out those who need help resisting, but not make them invincible.
I don't like the fact that the only way for it to be taken over is if skills are used to defeat whoever currently owns it. Surely, there are many more possibilites than "slice, slice, bash, 'BAM, I own Northerot now!' log-out-in-castle."
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 8:52 pm
				by Val De Gausse
				WAIT WAIT WAIT! Hold up
an army cannot fight each day or severel times a day.
Now you guys agree...not the time I said when the orcs hunted every night...so switch it around to your advantage. Even though I agree with the cease-fire
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 9:00 pm
				by Arkadia Misella
				Val..you are still breaking the cease fire...or you did anyway...by talking with grant and such...no mettings, or talks, or anything should be taking place...think of it as though everything just froze
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 9:04 pm
				by Val De Gausse
				When me and Grant talked it was just about what happened...maybe one or two sentences slipped about a plan. Also I wasn't unaware of that. I met grant before the cease-fire was announced too..
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 9:42 pm
				by Kasume
				Arkadia Misella wrote:Val..you are still breaking the cease fire...or you did anyway...by talking with grant and such...no mettings, or talks, or anything should be taking place...think of it as though everything just froze
That's like saying we aren't allowed to play anymore. It's going to be impossible to get an entire "cease fire" thing out...
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 11:18 pm
				by Grant Herion
				Actually after the cease-fire me and Val did meet.  But it didnt occur to me that it was wrong.  We didnt talk about anything, just that Grant needed his old physical strength back, or at least be able to beat sheep with his flies.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 11:30 pm
				by Grant Herion
				Val De Gausse wrote:WAIT WAIT WAIT! Hold up
an army cannot fight each day or severel times a day.
Now you guys agree...not the time I said when the orcs hunted every night...so switch it around to your advantage. Even though I agree with the cease-fire
 
LOL now that is funny
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 12:42 am
				by Bloodhearte
				Kasume wrote:Arkadia Misella wrote:Val..you are still breaking the cease fire...or you did anyway...by talking with grant and such...no mettings, or talks, or anything should be taking place...think of it as though everything just froze
That's like saying we aren't allowed to play anymore. It's going to be impossible to get an entire "cease fire" thing out...
 
It doesn't mean you can't play anymore. Just stop influencing actions or plans IG regarding Northerot and its occupation.
Duh.
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 12:59 am
				by Gro'bul
				You have to be kidding me, what Galim said makes perfect sense, but stopping planning is like stopping time.