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Post by Shandariel el Lysanthrai »

No Donal. Shooting at each other with arrows is forbidden.

In a duel with swords both duellists can chose to hit the opponents armor and/ or shield/sword. The other one can parry and do the same. They can avoid vulnerable targets. The duellist also can controle the strength of their strokes and controle to the damage they do.

But when you shoot with an arrow at each other a hit is a hit. the arrow sticks in your body, painfull and dangerous. You can't control the damage it makes when hitting you. And to hold an shield op so that the other one can "try" to hit the shield is no excuse and changes nothing that your char wouldn't do that.

in the history there was a tradition of training through duels, were the opponents stroke at the swords, shields and not vulnerable armor parts. but never was it tradition to shoot at each other with arrow and bow to get better.
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Post by Llama »

Said to be...

arrgh.. i'll arrange it, on next update

And re: IN RL they had static targets.. if the DEVS get us a few, it would be MUCH easier.

And you can still accidently kill someone during practice even in RL

Oh and you have to RP blunting arrows beforehand.

PPS: could we take this discussion into another thread?
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Post by Shandariel el Lysanthrai »

Hadrian, i will get an arrow and a bow and you stand there and let me shoot at you. with pointy and dangerous arrows. is that okay for you? will you do that IN RL?!
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Post by Dónal Mason »

As I said before...

The RP may seem silly, but if the practice is truly BANNED by GMs, then should not duelling in it's normal form be banned also? They could both be counted as forms of powergaming, which incidentally Estralis once said cannot happen anymore.
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Shandariel el Lysanthrai wrote:Hadrian, i will get an arrow and a bow and you stand there and let me shoot at you. with pointy and dangerous arrows. is that okay for you? will you do that IN RL?!
If you BLUNT them..

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Post by Shandariel el Lysanthrai »

You understood nothing. Please read again what I wrote above, and think about it. It is NOT the same. There is a big difference between duelling with arrows and duelling with swords. and you should be able to see the difference. you can controll your strokes with a sword. the strength, the target. the other one has too a sword or shield to defend. and he has armor.

an arrow cant be controlles. just where it hits can be controlled. if it hit you it is not just a cut, or a hit against a sword., it is a damn arrow sticking deep in your flesh, wounding you with terrible pain.


And Hadrian, I won't edit my post because you edited yours after I wrote my answer. That was cheap by you. Next time don't just edit your post away when someone proofed that you wrote something stupid.
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Post by Dónal Mason »

Hadrian has a point here, though. And the point is, there is NO OTHER WAY TO TRAIN THIS SKILL other than shooting potentially dangerous creatures.
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You can ask a friend who is a melee fighter to come with you. while he fights the monsters in melee you can shoot from behind at them. or you can go alone and run, shoot, run.
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Post by Llama »

Shandariel el Lysanthrai wrote: yours after I wrote my answer. That was cheap by you. Next time don't just edit your post away when someone proofed that you wrote something stupid.
It wasn't my fault, Donal posted after me, and I only noticed afterwards.... this happened twice, and he made the same point as i did

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Shandariel el Lysanthrai wrote: or you can go alone and run, shoot, run.
Oh yeah, thats some good roleplay [/sarcasm]

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ok starting a new thread
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Post by Shandariel el Lysanthrai »

Yes it is. An archer in a fight will shoot at his enemy and run away or search some defense where he can't be reached before he shoots again. He won't stay still and let the enemy hit him while he reloads his bow and shoot st the enmy in front of him hitting him with a huge mace.
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Post by Nitram »

If you have one, you can shoot at, you can go hunting monsters, in the way Shandariel said, too. This is no problem.

If two shoot with arrows on each other, this is no durn game. Because a arrow can kill some accidentally very easy.

So if i see one shooting on a other one, then the one who is hitted by the arrows does nothing, this is powergaming for me. And i sometimes reduce skills if i see this to often...

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Post by Llama »

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Update:

1) Removed the archery thingy which was causing problems
2) We have a new section (as per a suggestion), pic of the week... anyone wants to send me a few?
3) Usual bla bla bla...

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Post by King Cobra »

I like the design of your site. Text based websites are much easier to navigate that image heavy sites. Im glad your making an effort to help out new players with questions and support.
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Guys and girls, I still need the piccies for the screenshot of the week (very funny); any voluteers?
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Post by Llama »

This thread was revived, same as the site will be revived soon.

As you (should) know, this site was dead for almost a year now, and its time for its rebuilding, re-creation and editing in order to comply with the new Java Client.

Which is why, as always; I request the help of the players in order to help create it.

I shall do coding et cetera myself, the site will be made mostly using Htm, though there shall be a little bit of Flash from tyme to tyme.

However if anyone has a hitcounter which i could use, i DO need one :)

Thanks always to Karl for reminding me that the fansite existed O_o, and inspiring me in order to restart it... I also still haven't talked to him... O_o
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What I need (This is where you people come in)

->Pictures of Items (Tools, produced items ect)
->Pictures of Monsters/Creatures
->Pictures of each of the races
->The hit counter
->Skills
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|-> Anyone who's a master/expert at any production skill ingame... and who's willing to write a little 'instruction manual' about it (I'll tell you exactly what I need later on)

->Guild Leaders who want to have some information about their guild, or their community....

->If someone is willing to even translate it into German or something.....

Of course you'll get a place in the credits section ;)

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Skill list:

Manuel > TO BE DONE
Screenshots> NEDDED
Creatures> NEEDED
Brewing> NEEDED
Cooking> NEEDED
Farming> NEEDED
Fishing> DONE
Carpentry> DONE
Lumberjacking> DONE
Reforestation> NEEDED
Mining> NEEDED
Smithing> NEEDED
Gemcutting> NEEDED
Goldsmithing> NEEDED
Tailoring> NEEDED
Tanning> DONE
Archery> DONE
Throwing Weapons> NEEDED
Slashing Weapons> NEEDED
Concussion Weapons> NEEDED
Staves> NEEDED
Defence> NEEDED
Glassblowing> NEEDED
Herblore> NEEDED


Please PM if you want to help.

Thank you...
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Post by Hu'greu »

"Plates are required for those who wish to forge tools and tool parts; whislt Ingots are used by the weaponsmith to forge armor parts and weapons. Ingots are also very important to Carpenters who wish to produce shields."

Yall have this backwards, umm plates are for wepons and amour while ingets are for tools
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Post by Llama »

Erm, that site is going to be taken down soon.. i'm re-doing it... please read the above post.. thanks...

If you want to do blacksmithing... drop me a line ;)
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Post by Hu'greu »

oh, I thought it was still being used. but sure I will be glad to help in it, seem to me yall have it down though except for that one little part
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