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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:33 am
by Bailey Thunnigan
Maybe, Mister Wolfebrooks, you look a few parchments above and read the note of Lady Meryadeles once more. But let me help you. She wrote:
"If he or she simply doesn't wish to vote, he or she can write me a dove telling me so, i will accept that and she or he won't lose citizenship."
I would like to suggest you give a fourth option to the election next time, where you can immediately give your vote for 'none of the candidates'. Instead of writing you a dove, Lady.
Of course Mister Wolfebrook could have come up with this idea as well or contribute another alternative, but I guess it's still the same, that people can complain about something (in this case even without reason.) but don't make the effort to suggest something better.
- Bailey Thunnigan
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:40 am
by Siltaris
Fooser,
Once more your perception of the reality is a blurred one. I will try to explain why, but I start to get the feeling that you are simply stubborn.
Fooser wrote:
I could say the same about you when the temple was a real threat (you know, not just 2-3 people trying to remake it, where the town defense nearly snapped), with Stephen, myself, and a few others were in the end, successful. The guard is at one of its weakest points ever, that isn't subjective at all, so you need not lecutre me on supporting those efforts.
Talking about past glories, which happened under complete different circumstances is something I hardly can accept. Yes, it is true that I have not been around in that time. But I was not on Gobiath at all as people commonly know.
The current situation is a different one: You, as candidate for the Governor, apparently see the situation going on in town. You see that the Guard could need some support - but you do not offer your help at all.
However, the Town Guard currently is forming itself up step by step. Of course, you are not able to be informed about the discussions which are going on behind the scenes about the future and new allies of the Guard, because you never ever asked myself about this nor showed any interest in helping the town in the last months with your actions. All we can see from you is blaming, lies and pathetic phrases about your 'lizardliness' and the 'need for more Fooser'.
Fooser wrote:Fair and open, in which one person runs it, and can manipulate it as they wish, and no one would ever know. [...] The problem is actually the opposite, it's an overly long election being self-perpetuated by the government that it's re-electing.
The Magistrate already proofed that these two charges are nothing but untrue and causeless.
Fooser wrote:Heading a town in which the leaders aren't even wanted on some part of its land. Keep up the good work guys.
Again: causeless and pathetic words with no truth in them.
I want to suggest you, Fooser, to shut up now, because you are running out of reasonable 'arguments'. Every single 'argument' you might add to this mistimed discussion will be tackled and proofed to be unreasonable, if it is following the same way like your other inappropriate words.
I ask you to shut up now and here and to let the elections go their way.
Sincerely,
~Siltaris~
My comment on your signature was nothing but ig-rhetoric
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:17 pm
by Lamar
Samantha Meryadeles wrote:Please show where I should have manipulate vote. If you can'T give us a single evidence or example where I manipulated anything, then simply shut up.
~Lady Samantha Meryadeles~
I try to put it down with your own words, Lady M.
The town has not to proof your guilty. You are guilty as long as you are unable to proofe your innocence. These are the rules you made. So who should shut up now?
~Lamar
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:40 pm
by Samantha Meryadeles
I proofed my innocents already with the fact that there is nowhere a sign of manipulation ore any evidence for that. Also I already offered Mister Fooser that he can have insight in the vote and everything else, if that will satisfie him.
It is really a shame how many peoples who are not citizens of trollsbane or who simply doesn't care for the town and just wish to start arguements write here and disturb the whole election with it.
Aslong as you are no citizen it has to interest you nothing at all what happens in Trollsbane and who gets elected. Become citizens and you are free to discuss and argue about the town and how it is lead, but aslong as you don't do that, shut up and let us do our work and let us care for our town and go back to your own and argue there.
You must have a shamefull life if you have nothing better to do then argueing about a town to which you don't belong. Instead of writing here you could use the time and do something for your own town.
~Lady Samantha Meryadeles~
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:54 pm
by Fooser
Siltaris wrote:
Talking about past glories, which happened under complete different circumstances is something I hardly can accept. Yes, it is true that I have not been around in that time. But I was not on Gobiath at all as people commonly know.
Which translates to: I'd rather discuss when you (Fooser) weren't around during a relatively minor problem, while I was gone when the temple nearly overran parts of the island.
You say talking about "past glories" is something you cant accept, but apparently past shortcomings is good enough?
Siltaris wrote:
Of course, you are not able to be informed about the discussions which are going on behind the scenes about the future and new allies of the Guard,
Good to see you're planning and running town services "behind the scenes".
Speaking of being informed, I have yet to hear a person in town say they like forced secretive voting. Perhaps something you all ignored, but monarchs generally ignore what people say.
Siltaris wrote:
The Magistrate already proofed that these two charges are nothing but untrue and causeless.
Where?
Siltaris wrote:
I ask you to shut up now and here and to let the elections go their way.
Maybe I should, before I get labeled a 'political enemy' of the town, or perhaps Samantha will catch me 'stealing' something one of these days and try to use magic on me.
There is a growing number who look upon this nonsense and know it's bad news
F
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:12 pm
by Siltaris
Fooser,
I asked you to stop writing on this part of the board. I did so, because it was quite obvious that all your words started to get irrational, your arguments were not existing and your way of argumentation pitful. I asked you to stop writing nonsense in in your own interest.
Now, since you keep on creating your own scatterbrained reality and keep on trying to influence people with misquotes, I have to react to your writings again.
First, talking about abscences in past was not the main point I was talking about. It was the reason why I was not able to help Troll's Bane during the final defeat of the Temple. At the same time, your reason for not helping Troll's Bane in today's situation is that these are 'minor problems'. Furthermore you state that the Town Guard needs support - apparently not your support, because you only seem to be willing to help if the Town is close to be conquered by dark forces. Only then, in these times, our 'noble' Fooser is willing to finally act in a way for supporting the town.
I ask you, who are you to dare to judge over the dimension of threats, while people are robbed, people are threatened, people are kidnapped, people are murdered and dieing? But all these seem only to be 'minor problems', which are not worth to make you get active for supporting the town.
I really wonder how you would explain it to the citizens if you won't do anything against these 'minor problems', because they are not worse enough - it is a shame!
Second, since I still am the Captain of the Town Guard it is my job to care for the town's safety. I am steadily recruiting people and train with them. I look for new recruits and new Town Guards.
It is more than logic that I do that in private until there is the opportunity from both sides to make it official.
I really wonder why I have to explain you, Fooser, who once was the 'King of Troll's Bane' and who wants to become Governor again, the way of how making policy.
Furthermore, at the same time I offered you and everyone to ask me about how it is going on with these negotiations going on within the Town Guard. So, since there seems to be no interest at all in getting informed about these discussions (because you have never asked), you only are concerned about the unknown. But be aware that it is your laziness and disinterest which makes it unknown to you.
Third, you should read the parchments of the Magistrate more carefully. Then you will see why your arguments already have been disproved.
If there is anything else you want to discuss about, do it in private, either with the Magistrate or myself.
Writing more irrational, insulting, misquoted and lurid parchments will only show that you are hardly able for any kind of argumentation nor diplomacy.
Sincerely,
~Siltaris~
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:39 pm
by Avalyon el'Hattarr
Be careful my friend, or you risk Samantha to hunt you too for being a "political threat".
The message is left unsigned
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:43 pm
by Mr. Cromwell
As a King, Fooser was a joke. Without any doubt his reign as a governor would be similiar.
-Unsigned-
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:45 pm
by Bailey Thunnigan
Why do you keep discussing with Fooser, Siltaris? The lizard proved his immaturity today by lightening up a fire in the try to burn down your standarte in the shop.
I caught him the act, though he will surely try deny it, since he grabbed a bucket as he saw me, Dantagon and Jorokar and extinguished the fire.
That's simply his way. Burning down with what he can't compete (and in this case even risk to set the shop in flames).
- Bailey Thunnigan
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:54 pm
by Bailey Thunnigan
Probably because she paid for it, like any other candidate could have as well. And I guess the magistrate is setting up the election, because that's her job in her position.
And it's nice that you will keep watching 'things', Mister Farron. Will you contribute something productive as well or will you simply join the ranks of moaners on the town board? Like getting yourself involved into politics in Trolls Bane, maybe letting yourself set up for the next election. Contributing ideas and suggestions how things could run better.
- Bailey Thunnigan
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:01 pm
by Skaalib Drurr
Miss Bailey Thunnigan, I am glad you raise the point of this standard. I am sure that either Fooser of I could compete with this, as either of the two candidates afford the 5 silver fee (although overpriced it is). However I dislike the phrasing that is on it. Siltaris is not governor yet, so I would like the last line to be changed from "Governor Siltaris" to "Siltaris for Governor", or something similar. Indeed, I find it insulting that this is being used, I see it as no more but almost public humiliation of myself and Fooser. Indeed, almost certainly Siltaris shall win, but such writings should not be allowed. Although I agree entirely with the sentiment of the writings, everyone should use their vote to vote for a better Trollsbane; and I am sure any candidate shall do their best to achieve that.
And fooser is entitled to write on this parchment as much as any.
Skaalib
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:08 pm
by Bailey Thunnigan
To be honest I didn't even read the standard. If she really wrote "Governour Siltaris" then it was unrighteous. I understand your point, Skaalib. Though I don't see it has public humiliation of either of you (and still no reason for Fooser to set it on fire.)
But this is Siltaris matter to clarify, not mine.
- Bailey Thunnigan
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:16 pm
by Wyrda
Do we really want a governor or magistrate who continually to their opponents to "shut up"? Not very professional if you ask me...
-the note is left unsigned
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:21 pm
by Avalyon el'Hattarr
Silas Farron wrote:The whole election is held rather unfair.
Why did exactly Siltaris get the spot where most people cross to set up her standart?
Why is a magistrate who is a very close friend to one of the candidates organising the whole election and setting up rules for it?
No matter how the outcome of this election will be, I shall be watching things closely.
-Silas Farron
Come now mister Farron, we all know the outcome of this "election". Don't we, Samantha?
There are no greater promisers than those who have nothing to give.
~ The note remains unsigned
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:23 pm
by Siltaris
The text on the standard is fine the way it is. You should read it again and think about it carefully. It does not proclaim myself as official Governor, nor does it imply that I already am Governor.
If you still have the feeling of being insulted, please write down the text here and I will explain the notion of the text in detail to proof that there is no reason to be concerned or to feel insulted.
~Siltaris~
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:26 pm
by Samantha Meryadeles
Every candidate was free to buy a standard for advertising him or herself. Every candidate was free to chose the text written on it. And every candidate was free to put the standard wherever he or she wishes it.
But just Siltaris wanted such a standard. From all three candidates she is the only one who used this possibility.
And 5 Silver can't be too much if the money is given to the towns treasury, and later used to improve our town.
Also we just tell those to shut up who can't do anything else then moaning and complaining, making unfounded accusations, spreading lies and writing untrue statements without any proof for them.
Sorry, but we don't need moaning that can't be back uped a little bit through evidences, proofs or examples. That is just negative for the towns atmosphere and the ongoing vote.
And Mister Fooser, I would appreciate it if you could stop to try burning down the town. I know, in the past you got jailed and banned for burning down things, but it is not necessary that you do this these days again.
~Lady Samantha Meryadeles~
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:46 pm
by Avalyon el'Hattarr
You need proof of your evil doings?
Who is more evil than the one who's feet run to evil, and make haste to shed blood?
Remember... A hyena cannot smell its own stench.
- Simeon Pravus
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:50 pm
by AlexRose
I personally found Siltaris's banner in the shop downright cheeky.
~William Elderberry~
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:00 pm
by Skaalib Drurr
I have read the banner carefully; the fact is it can easily be interpreted as the fact you are almost 'signing' the banner, 'Governor Siltaris'. You will no doubt give me a different valid interpretation, however it cannot be denied that it can be interpreted the way I see it. And so I would like it changed, if you wouldn't mind. I think 'Siltaris for Governor' would be more appropriate, and it will no doubt convey the same meaning as what 'Governor Siltaris' might do.
Skaalib
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:04 pm
by Fooser
Perhaps you should examine the sign for yourself, and you would see that it could be burnt within a few seconds, if that was really the intent, it would have been burned. A small fire was placed next to the pole itself as a symbolic gesture, and then I put water on it. But of course, you blow that out of proportion and say I was buring down the shop. Although a bumpy relationship, I am on good terms with Eliza and to say I wished that is erroneous.
Samantha says citizens are free to voice concerns, and then Siltaris says they shouldn't, perhaps you two should clarify this? There is a legitimate concern about the "methods" being used here, by a growing number of voices (who are labeled 'moaners' 'complainers', just a taste of what's to come if your concerns arent in your leaders favor)
And Siltaris, I believe you missed the world "relatively" small problem. I was discussing the temple, and the temple back then and the recent attempt to restart it, was actually small IN RELATION to the previous problem. I made not mention of the robbery issue.
F
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:08 pm
by Dantagon Marescot
I truthfully do not understand what this is set to accomplish now that the voting is under way. You had a good month before the election to argue. Might that have been put to good use we wouldn't be listening to this now. It is a little late to be complaining about things you don't like. Change peoples minds before the election. Not leave them wishing they could change their vote after.
-- Sir Dantagon Marescot
-- Knight of Gobaith
-- Warrior of Bragon
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:08 pm
by Bailey Thunnigan
Pardon me, Fooser. Try to read my message again. I said "you risked burning the shop", not that you tried to burn it. But why correcting you, you only read and understand what you want to read and understand. That's easiest for you.
Secondly, have a look at the shops floor. It's wood. Wood burns easily, just a reminder. At least you are honest enough to admit that it was you. Just next time you wish to put a 'symbolic gesture', please don't do it in publical buildings and with fire.
- Bailey Thunnigan.
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:11 pm
by Fooser
Samantha Meryadeles wrote:
And Mister Fooser, I would appreciate it if you could stop to try burning down the town.
I was referring to this. And actually, she makes the leap of me trying to burn the entire town even. And you wish to say I'm the only one being ridiculous here?
F
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:15 pm
by Bailey Thunnigan
It's called 'exaggerating'. You know it, you use it as well when it suits you to 'prove' a point.
- Bailey Thunnigan
PS: Yes, I'm barely reading Lady Meryadeles posts either. The red ink hurts in the eyes.
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:15 pm
by Samantha Meryadeles
Fooser, you are the ONLY citizen here moaning and complaining. Everyone else doing so doesn't belong to our town and are no citizens. They are simply peoples who dislike me or Siltaris due personal conflicts in the past. Or who are simply interested in a weak Trollsbane whose peoples fight against each other instead of standing together against any threat or problem appearing.
And you Fooser simply moan and complain because you see few chances for yourself to win the election. You never complained and moaned before about the election and how it is lead, until you realized that you won't win. You are simply frustrated and angered because of you losing and try now to damage everything because of that. That is childish and immature and should show yourself why you have not more support from the citizens.
Please try to be more mature and don't continue embarassing yourself. The same counts for everyone here who can't do anything else than complain and moan without showing us any real reason to do so. Without showing us evidences justifyiing their moaning. Without having a honest and well meant reason FOR Trollsbane because of which they moan.
The new government isn't even formed and voted yet and you start already to complain. For nothing. Just for the complaining itself. That is cheap and sad, and also very pityfull.
~Lady Samantha Meryadeles~
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:17 pm
by AlexRose
Silly, naive Fooser; didn't you know it's standard to burn down the town you're enrolling for governor in?
~William Elderberry~
NB. Yes, that was sarcasm.
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:24 am
by Damien Wolfebrook~
Samantha Meryadeles wrote:Fooser, you are the ONLY citizen here moaning and complaining. Everyone else doing so doesn't belong to our town and are no citizens. They are simply peoples who dislike me or Siltaris due personal conflicts in the past. Or who are simply interested in a weak Trollsbane whose peoples fight against each other instead of standing together against any threat or problem appearing.
And you Fooser simply moan and complain because you see few chances for yourself to win the election. You never complained and moaned before about the election and how it is lead, until you realized that you won't win. You are simply frustrated and angered because of you losing and try now to damage everything because of that. That is childish and immature and should show yourself why you have not more support from the citizens.
Please try to be more mature and don't continue embarassing yourself. The same counts for everyone here who can't do anything else than complain and moan without showing us any real reason to do so. Without showing us evidences justifyiing their moaning. Without having a honest and well meant reason FOR Trollsbane because of which they moan.
The new government isn't even formed and voted yet and you start already to complain. For nothing. Just for the complaining itself. That is cheap and sad, and also very pityfull.
~Lady Samantha Meryadeles~
I believe at one time I WAS a citizen, though was somehow crossed from the list due to TrollsBane quick change of leaders over the past few years.
I also wish to apologize for my moronic words earlier, as they were written with frustration, as I did not bother to read the later parchments. Thank you, Lady Thunnigan.
:;DW;:
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:36 pm
by Nitram
The voting is over.
14 citizens took part in the voting.
13 voices for Siltaris
1 voice for Fooser
0 voices for Skaalib Drurr
Congratulations Siltaris.
Samantha Meryadeles get a list of the citizens who voted, so she is able to remove the others from the list.
Nitram,
Owner of the voting boxes
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:58 pm
by Athian
Seems like Trollsbanes population is about to take a rather large drop.
sincerely Amused
Athian Corulas
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 7:06 pm
by Avalyon el'Hattarr
Maybe people just prefere to live someplace else than be under Samantha and her puppet's rule.
Left unsigned