A complaint

Taylor · Post by **Taylor** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:42 am

I remember a certain phrase that all pushed chars where banned by Nitram. Even the Teachers Sedian and Jakath, who were teaching a combined 12 students. But oh wait, These Golems are still in effect. Probably because Someone bitched and moaned untill they could get thier OFFENSIVE Golems back, When Jak and sed Attacked only those who attacked them. I'm sorry for not using my pushed char more offensivly and bitching when it was banned.

Laviath Rathor · Post by **Laviath Rathor** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:45 am

The reason, why the dwarves have their golems is, because stephen and everyone were attaking silverbrand. The dwarves were completly unable to protect their selves and Irmorom was heavily angry. So he sent them the golems to protect them, until they are strong enough to do that, on their own

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:47 am

Laviath Rathor wrote:The reason, why the dwarves have their golems is, because stephen and everyone were attaking silverbrand. The dwarves were completly unable to protect their selves and Irmorom was heavily angry. So he sent them the golems to protect them, until they are strong enough to do that, on their own

Now they are more than strong enought to defend themselves, if there was help to the losing side in all wars, none would get won eh?

And if Mark ran, its maybe because he didnt want to get recklessly PKed by the golem like Dain have, and its hard to type while running.

Taylor · Post by **Taylor** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:48 am

So where are Greenbriars uber wolves? I mean, Greenbriar has no effective fighters. Oh, Don't forget about Varshikar, I mean we have Athian, Arist, Taylor, and a few mages, but with the magic system thrown askew and Athian taking a hit from the death bug, Varshikar can't do anything against Stephen or Arameh either. I'm just saying this seems very askew. Infact, I was specifically told that pushed chars are not to fight with Normal characters. But wait..I was told that Gods are not to be played by GM's either. And as much as I can remember..I've seen Moshran, Irmorom, and Bragon all played by GM's. Seems rules are being thrown out the window left and right here.

Post by **Nitram** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:49 am

Taylor wrote:Even the Teachers Sedian and Jakath, who were teaching a combined 12 students.

A single word, would have activated them again.

Taylor wrote:But oh wait, These Golems are still in effect.

Because only Characters without gm rights got banned.

Taylor wrote:Probably because Someone bitched and moaned untill they could get thier OFFENSIVE Golems back

Waste of time, since the were never banned

Taylor wrote:When Jak and sed Attacked only those who attacked them.

And how many attacked you, because you made them to do this, by bitching around (ingame of cause)?

Taylor wrote:I'm sorry for not using my pushed char more offensivly and bitching when it was banned.

Only because it got banned

Nitram

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:50 am

So why doesn't every other god fearing people have a defensive gm char? I call killer bunny from Montey python and the holy grail for farmer's union, its in our laws not to harm the wildlife (basically rabbits). Oldra should give us this gift to defenseless farmers.

Azuros · Post by **Azuros** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:51 am

Gro'bul wrote:So why doesn't every other god fearing people have a defensive gm char? I call killer bunny from Montey python and the holy grail for farmer's union, its in our laws not to harm the wildlife (basically rabbits). Oldra should give us this gift to defenseless farmers.

I claim a couple of Dryads to protect Vanima!

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:54 am

Trollsbane will bring out....the holy hand grenade

I don't really think it's a huge problem that Dwarves underground have some kinds of advantages when defending themselves

Taylor · Post by **Taylor** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:56 am

[quote="NitramA single word, would have activated them again.[/quote]
Sorry, I forgot. A single word to someone who ignores you on msn is so effective.

Nitram wrote:Because only Characters without gm rights got banned.

Oh yes. I'm sorry oh great one. I'm sorry the ESQS is trampled on like dog shit, Even if we take our own time to make it easier on the GM's.

Nitram wrote:Waste of time, since the were never banned

Hmm. See above

Nitram wrote:And how many attacked you, because you made them to do this, by bitching around (ingame of cause)?

To my record. Only Gort, Grant, and Phillipe were attacked. Of which, Only Phillipe complained to me.

Nitram wrote:Only because it got banned

Fear not. It's because you banned chars currently being used in ESQS quests without a single warning or precautionary hearing. But then again, I was removed from the ESQS without a word also. Seems a trend has started.

Taylor

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:57 am

Fooser wrote:I don't really think it's a huge problem that Dwarves underground have some kinds of advantages when defending themselves

The best smiths on the island, so much coal and ore to make quite good quality everything for their fighters, this seems like a good advantage no?

Laviath Rathor · Post by **Laviath Rathor** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:57 am

Neither Varshikar, nor Tol Vanima, nor Greenbriar got ever attacked by stephen. And also, when stephen was attacking silverbrand the first time, there where exactly two warriors in silverbrand and stephen had about - lemme think - five uber chars with magical weapons and 20 avarage warriors?

Lance Thunnigan · Post by **Lance Thunnigan** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:00 am

I agree with Taylor completely.

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:00 am

Gro'bul wrote:
Fooser wrote:I don't really think it's a huge problem that Dwarves underground have some kinds of advantages when defending themselves
The best smiths on the island, so much coal and ore to make quite good quality everything for their fighters, this seems like a good advantage no?

It's definetly not that simple. And to say no one else has their advantages is wrong, they just might not be so obvious.

Laviath Rathor · Post by **Laviath Rathor** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:01 am

Arameh wrote: And if Mark ran, its maybe because he didnt want to get recklessly PKed by the golem like Dain have, and its hard to type while running.

The golem didn't even jump into the first portal. He never touched Mark: Also, we were all running, too and managed to do some #mes

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:02 am

Laviath Rathor wrote:Neither Varshikar, nor Tol Vanima, nor Greenbriar got ever attacked by stephen. And also, when stephen was attacking silverbrand the first time, there where exactly two warriors in silverbrand and stephen had about - lemme think - five uber chars with magical weapons and 20 avarage warriors?

No..im not sure if they were 5 when they attacked, surely not more than 7, and others were bandits who were AGAISNT him

Taylor · Post by **Taylor** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:02 am

Laviath Rathor wrote:Neither Varshikar, nor Tol Vanima, nor Greenbriar got ever attacked by stephen. And also, when stephen was attacking silverbrand the first time, there where exactly two warriors in silverbrand and stephen had about - lemme think - five uber chars with magical weapons and 20 avarage warriors?

So you attack the two strongest fighters in the game verbally, saying in basics "Bring it on" and expect them to not throw a suprise attack? Then calling on a GM because of your smile up, saying that your too weak to defend yourself against the person you insulted, and getting two golems, Of which Varshikar's golem who held up the castle is NEVER played by any gm, to help you protect yourselves. Hmm. I guess we should call on the mountain golems when stephen attacks Varshikar, or even better, maybe even the mana pool! -.-

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:03 am

They can get Darlok

So much for rage quitting eh?

Laviath Rathor · Post by **Laviath Rathor** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:07 am

Taylor wrote:
Laviath Rathor wrote:Neither Varshikar, nor Tol Vanima, nor Greenbriar got ever attacked by stephen. And also, when stephen was attacking silverbrand the first time, there where exactly two warriors in silverbrand and stephen had about - lemme think - five uber chars with magical weapons and 20 avarage warriors?
So you attack the two strongest fighters in the game verbally, saying in basics "Bring it on" and expect them to not throw a suprise attack? Then calling on a GM because of your smile up, saying that your too weak to defend yourself against the person you insulted, and getting two golems, Of which Varshikar's golem who held up the castle is NEVER played by any gm, to help you protect yourselves. Hmm. I guess we should call on the mountain golems when stephen attacks Varshikar, or even better, maybe even the mana pool! -.-

Maybe it was a special thing, because Stephen waited with his attack, until Gloin and Negyth were out of Silverbrand? When I remember right, the dwarves insulted stephen and he did nothing. he waited for about 2 real weaks and attacked, when gloin (who was almost of the same strength as arameh/stephen) and negyth (not uber, but good enough to parry some hits from arameh, at least) left silver / died?

Taylor · Post by **Taylor** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:12 am

Do you really expect someone to rally their troops in less than two weeks? People do have lives.

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:14 am

I think most people agree, to be fair to the groups that are offline at a certain time, and to stop helping certain groups with pushed characters.

Thats the end of it, isnt it?

Laviath Rathor · Post by **Laviath Rathor** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:16 am

roflmao...

Stephen was preparing for war since about 5 weeks, when the dwarves insulted him. He would've been able to attack within 1 day or even the same day.

Lance Thunnigan · Post by **Lance Thunnigan** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:17 am

Laviath Rathor wrote:roflmao...

Stephen was preparing for war since about 5 weeks, when the dwarves insulted him. He would've been able to attack within 1 day or even the same day.

Maybe he chose not to, maybe he thought you would think like that.
Did you ever perhaps try to think things through a bit?

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:19 am

i didnt need to prepare anything lol
I went to silverbrand becuase i was told bandits took over silverbrand and stephe nfigured it would be great to have the dwarves owe him for saving their town. HE gets there and the bandits are talking casually with the dwarves, stephen attacks the bandits and the dwarves laugh at him as he get s owned. Stephen goes back to trolls bane pissed, gets salathe, kevin and liles and pwns the dwarves. end of story lol. I didnt need to plan or meta game, it is amazing how strong active guilds can be.

Laviath Rathor · Post by **Laviath Rathor** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:19 am

If he would have been wanting to handle things "secretly", he wouldn't have been talking about the whole war-thing with me (po of negyth), in msn, would he?

Cliu Beothach · Post by **Cliu Beothach** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:22 am

Laviath Rathor wrote:If he would have been wanting to handle things "secretly", he wouldn't have been talking about the whole war-thing with me (po of negyth), in msn, would he?

Or he was thinking he could trust you.

Azuros · Post by **Azuros** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:23 am

this is getting annoying, can we please lock this?

Post by **Nitram** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:25 am

Taylor wrote:Fear not. It's because you banned chars currently being used in ESQS quests without a single warning or precautionary hearing.

Indeed, i banned all. But i wrote a second later, that i enable all characters, as all other gms do, if they are still needed. This was just a way to get rid of those unused overpushed characters.

Taylor wrote:But then again, I was removed from the ESQS without a word also. Seems a trend has started.

I was not involved in this actions. But the way you behave here, shows that it wasn't a wrong desicion.

Nitram

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:25 am

im always talking about pipe dreams on msn... about 95% of the things i say stephen will accomplish on msn never even go anywhere near ingame lol.

Laviath Rathor · Post by **Laviath Rathor** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:26 am

Cliu Beothach wrote:
Laviath Rathor wrote:If he would have been wanting to handle things "secretly", he wouldn't have been talking about the whole war-thing with me (po of negyth), in msn, would he?
Or he was thinking he could trust you.

...He knew I would tell that to PO Gloin and to the other POs of dwarven chars I know on msn... I mean, it doesn't make any difference for a good player if he knows things ooc., because his char, doesn't know them, normally

Lance Thunnigan · Post by **Lance Thunnigan** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:26 am

Nitram wrote:
Taylor wrote:Fear not. It's because you banned chars currently being used in ESQS quests without a single warning or precautionary hearing.
Indeed, i banned all. But i wrote a second later, that i enable all characters, as all other gms do, if they are still needed. This was just a way to get rid of those unused overpushed characters.

Taylor wrote:But then again, I was removed from the ESQS without a word also. Seems a trend has started.
I was not involved in this actions. But the way you behave here, shows that it wasn't a wrong desicion.

Nitram

That second quote and reply is totally bullshit Nitram.
If you got invited into the ESQS, then all of a sudden get kicked out for some unexplained reason, you'd be pissed too. So don't go saying that line of crap.