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A list of rules made by myself and Stephen has been added to the board, all members of the knighthood NEED to read them carefully and ensure not to act agaisnt any of them, certain punishments can be applyied if certain individuals are being careless.
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That is a rather heavy accusation, and indeed insults my honor, pray you have proof for it you will spew this lie I will challenge you to a duel of honor, Thurbert.

Stephen Rothman

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I would have no reason to take anything from your mines, as there is no depot nearby, your are lieing chancellor, and unless you apologise for it you will need to stand before me in the fighting arena.
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Your accusing myself of this, yet you readily admit you have no proof, why are you still accusing me when you have nothing to say it is true? Do you lack so much respect for this Knighthood that you will spew any lie you imagine to hurt it, or to strike at me? Are you jealous because I have a successful iron ore industry that doesn't require your ores, but public owned mines.
Apologise for your lie Chancellor.

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Thurbert~ wrote: You talk of lack of respect for the knighthood. Show me where did I insult the knighthood?
Thurbert
Chancellor of Silverbrand
This knighhood has lost all of my and Silverbrands respect the day it marched into our town.
Half of this knighthood is banished from
our town
Eating your words now Chancellor?

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can both discuss this in other board? This seems to be used for anounce of the knighthood.

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Caldrion Sternenglanz wrote:can both discuss this in other board? This seems to be used for anounce of the knighthood.

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Please as Caldrion stated, take this argument to your doves. Send the messages in private. I am sure the people of the knighthood care not for your own personal arguments, or people interested in joining the knighthood.

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I am banished from the Knighthood and Silverbrand alike, I carry no friendship for Stephen any longer nor do I reside in Trollsbane.
Yet for the sake of truth, honour and law:

-The reason the knighthood attacked Silverbrand was because it stood mocking while Stephen was being attacked by those initualy trying to take over.

-No where have I ever read or heard about Silverbrand being involved with the temple, Stephen never said so to my knowlage.

-Did Silverbrand not hire assassins to kill a certain smith who was non dwarven, for no reason what-so-ever?
And you speak of law and rules? You speak of illegal mining? While you hire mercinaries to murder someone just because that someone is a good smith?

-Much of your acusations are obviously simply made up.

-'Everyone who does not hail to the Knighthood shall feel it's blade.'
I never felt any blade, and I am quite sure Stephen hates me quite some.


I do not speak for Stephen. Only for the sake of truth.
You seek to accuse for so many things.
Yet you do not abide to the laws you set.

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Thank you Kevin for clearing this up for us, I appreciate it.

On another note, 'not to steal' is already in the codex, simply because it is in the oath, every members of the knighthood are supposed to know the oath, breaking it it agaisnt rule 1.

For Stephen, he shall not get a punishment for an action which has not been proved or seen by at least a few reliable people, there is nothing more to say on this issue.

PS : Please Thurbert, it is spelt interesting, not interresting.
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Dain Laiden has sworn the oath and is now a page as well, let us welcome him.
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I have not looked a the board in a while and wanted to voice my distaste at the chancellor or Silverbrand writting all over our part of the town walls.

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I am waiting for a reply of the Highknight, to the proof I have given for the wrongdoings of Rothman.

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The only thing which has been mentionned is that priest of Irmorow had seen him mining in Silverbrand. Only one, no name, no day, no specifications else than this, it is far from being sufficiant to be even an evidence I fear.
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I will let any pages know now, current or incoming, that I have sausages I am willing to give if food is needed. As time goes on I will slowly gain more, so you can expect me to always have something for you.

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Matholamew Dunsinane has sworn the oath of Kallahorn and is now a page, I am sure he will be a good knight, let us welcome him.
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Today myself and Stephen came into Silverbrand, to discuss once and for all with the dwarves about the recent matters. First on we have been knocking at their door for a good amount of time, the dwarves WERE there since we have heard one of them shouting, but they did not come to the door at all to even talk to us. So we waited, and a few moments later Ghorn as well as a rock golem came off, wanting to use the force to jail us! I see it as a slight act of war agaisnt the knighthood and this will not be tolerated. As well, it seems that the Rose (Adano and Ardian) have been helping the dwarves in their chase to slaughter knighthood members, I do not see why it has been done, but its not a well welcomed action.

I nor I hope anyone else wants to have a war, this is why I will be asking the following things so we can try to stay in good terms :

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Grey Rose : A public apology for the actions against the knighthood

Silverbrand : A public apology for the actions against the knighthood as well as a donation of 20 silvers.
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To the knighthood : We will be hostile with Silverbrand until they will pay the amount mentionned, stay aware and ready in case.
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Silverbrand demands the knighthood to hand over the criminals Arameh and Stephen.

Today they entered again our mine and stolen our raw materials. When i caught them together with our golem guardian stealing our rawmaterials they refused to go to jail and raised their weapons, attacking. Aftrer that they fled over the whole isle, as the cowards they are.


Shall you not hand over I will see us forced to end finally the problem with your Knighthood.
Lies and thievery are a shame for that knightood.

Shall you not hand over those thieves we see us forced to take them by force

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A "Knighthood" by definition is held to high standards for the group, and for its members, and I look at the situation of the last months and I am not seeing it. I cannot see how Silverbrand is in the wrong here, since their rules have been stated and enforced for a while now. You are not being treated any differently than anyone else who trespasses their personal land. Instead of helping the good of the island, you have effectively angered most of the factions on it, for your own gain.

You have been greedy in your endeavours, and biased for your own members, and you should be ashamed. I suggest you rethink the direction for your group, and do it quickly.


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Two messages are posted on the board, one small, posted above the larger one.

Arameh, I'm sorry I haven't gotten this message pinned up until now.


I have the iron requested from me, and I soon also have the rest of the parchment also requested from me. I wish an audience with you again, High knight Arameh, to speak about me joining up with you once again.

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Fooser wrote:A "Knighthood" by definition is held to high standards for the group, and for its members, and I look at the situation of the last months and I am not seeing it. I cannot see how Silverbrand is in the wrong here, since their rules have been stated and enforced for a while now. You are not being treated any differently than anyone else who trespasses their personal land. Instead of helping the good of the island, you have effectively angered most of the factions on it, for your own gain.

You have been greedy in your endeavours, and biased for your own members, and you should be ashamed. I suggest you rethink the direction for your group, and do it quickly.


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What wrongs did the knighthood do exactly? It first started when Thurbert has been writing accusations without backing them up in our boards. We have handled the situation accordingly, I have asked for the names of reliables person that had seen him doing the action (which I didnt have). And then in the end, myself and Stephen came to Silverbrand to discuss the matters peacefully with the dwarves, we have knocked at their doors and they shouted, then thats was it, they didnt come.

After we wait a few moments, Ghorn and a rock golem comes to us, asking us to go to jail, while the only reason we had came to their lands was to clear this thing once and for all. If we did follow them, of course they would have let us rot in jail until we die of hunger, so we did fight back. We fled to Trollsbane, and they did follow us, trying to kill us off with the help of the Rose.

Please tell me what bad the knighthood did within these actions, because I see none, it is only self defense. These facts are truths, I do not lie and the day someone will prove I have lied, I will step back from the knighthood completely.
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Mister Arameh

I am sorry but I can't watch while you lie as a knight, and drag the honour of the knighthood into the dirt.

I myself saw you and Stephen Rothman mining in the Silverbrand mine, short before all that happened. I came to warn you and Silverbrand because of the dragon.

You prefered to continue mining there. Saying this all belongs to everyone, not just the dwarves.

You spread just lies here, as does Mister Rothman. I am sad to see that. You have not earned the title of a knight. Not as a thief and a lier.

The dwarves had all rights to demand you laying down weapons and go to jail. You broke their laws. But you refused and attacked.

You are not anymore a honorable person. You are now just a criminal.

And I demand payment from you for the repairs of the Seahorse Inn which got destroyed when you tried to hide there after the law enforcment of Silverbrand hunted you. You better pay soon.

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Yes, I mined in Silverbrand the time I was waiting the dwarves to get out of the city, because they would not even come to the gate and discuss about the matters. And no, I did not lie, show me which lie I have done, will you?
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It is Silverbrand's golem which destroyed the inn Samantha, not us, ask them to pay.
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And then in the end, myself and Stephen came to Silverbrand to discuss the matters peacefully with the dwarves, we have knocked at their doors and they shouted, then thats was it, they didnt come.

After we wait a few moments, Ghorn and a rock golem comes to us, asking us to go to jail, while the only reason we had came to their lands was to clear this thing once and for all.


Discuss the matters? I don't think to mine illegally in their home is the right way to discuss matters peacefully. And waited a few moments? That is a lie. I saw you many minutes before you ran through trollsbane in their mine, gathering iron, gold and coal and bringing it away.
You lied when you said you did nothing else than knocking at the door and waiting. You lied when you forgotten to mention that you were stealing their rawmaterials the moment King Ghorn surprised you.

You proofed unhonorful behaviour when you demand money and an apologize because the King of Silverbrand tried to stop you stealing his property and than getting attacked by you.

You are a shame for every knighthood. I am very dissapointed in you. I thought better of you, I thought you are more honourfull than Stephen Rothman. But at the end you are as worse as him.

And you will pay because you ran into the Seahorse when he was hunting you after you stolen from their mine. You had the choice to go to an other place, but no, you provoked the Golem to break through the walls. It is your fault. You fled to Trollsbane after a crime, you lured a golem to Trollsbane, a golem hunting you because you commited a crime in Silverbrand. You better pay when you know what is good for you.

Please tell me what bad the knighthood did within these actions, because I see none, it is only self defense. These facts are truths, I do not lie and the day someone will prove I have lied, I will step back from the knighthood completely.


Stealing property of an other town, attacking the towns king when they caught you, refusing jail with violence and luring a golem into trollsbane when trying to flee from the place of crime? I think your lie is proofen and you should take your leave from the knighthood.
I witnessed that you were stealing in their mine and gave them good reasons to jail you. You lied when you said you gave no reasons to jail you and acted just in self defense.

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Samantha Meryadeles wrote:
And then in the end, myself and Stephen came to Silverbrand to discuss the matters peacefully with the dwarves, we have knocked at their doors and they shouted, then thats was it, they didnt come.

After we wait a few moments, Ghorn and a rock golem comes to us, asking us to go to jail, while the only reason we had came to their lands was to clear this thing once and for all.


Discuss the matters? I don't think to mine illegally in their home is the right way to discuss matters peacefully. And waited a few moments? That is a lie. I saw you many minutes before you ran through trollsbane in their mine, gathering iron, gold and coal and bringing it away.
You lied when you said you did nothing else than knocking at the door and waiting. You lied when you forgotten to mention that you were stealing their rawmaterials the moment King Ghorn surprised you.

You proofed unhonorful behaviour when you demand money and an apologize because the King of Silverbrand tried to stop you stealing his property and than getting attacked by you.

You are a shame for every knighthood. I am very dissapointed in you. I thought better of you, I thought you are more honourfull than Stephen Rothman. But at the end you are as worse as him.

~Lady Samantha Meryadeles~
What is the lie in this? A few moments can mean 3 seconds as much as it can mean 300 years, it cannot be seen as a direct lie.

I never said I did NOTHING ELSE than knocking at the door, YOU just told a direct lie writing this.

Not mentionning something is NOT a lie, a shame the ancient archmistress dosent know more than this about such things.
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Maybe perhaps the dwaves dont want you there because you aided in attacking it with a bunch of bandits, including Jacob. For holding Trollsbane as well with undead during the lich war? Crimes that still go unpunished, and now you trespass even more.


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