The New Fighting system

Kl'urk · Post by **Kl'urk** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:07 am

Same with Kl'urk. Playing him since the wipe, he has dodge on 2 %. Since a year now. No changes. And other players got their dodge 90 % and higher o_O

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:07 am

@gabon- i speak about the skill boost and special items a certain person gave alkuurg just prior to the orc/dwarf war.

Kl'urk · Post by **Kl'urk** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:09 am

i speak about the skill boost and special items a certain person gave alkuurg just prior to the orc/dwarf war.

Please? If that is true I wish a word by the GM'S about it. That wouldn't be right and an unfair behaviour against the dwarves. I wish an investigation about that.

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:10 am

haha i lit the flame, but well, a few of the player orcs told me this... and itwould explain why gorge bloodsteench was running around in magical elven armour.. and why alkuurg got so much dodge so ridiculously fast.

Gabon Corad · Post by **Gabon Corad** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:10 am

strange i never head about that...ALKUURG!!

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:11 am

Wouldnt be suprising, a number of characters have been upped in the past. Excellent roleplay indeed.

Kl'urk · Post by **Kl'urk** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:12 am

It is unfair against every honest player working his ass away to get his character with fair methods on a decent level. and than still gets pwned by everyone else.

Gabon Corad · Post by **Gabon Corad** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:13 am

expecally when the players that are getting poned is that ones that have been playing since right after the wipe on the same char...something aint right

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:14 am

Gabon Corad wrote:then why dont i get any of this help? and Gms never helped us when i was leader of the Shadow horde...if thats what your talking about

He aint talking about you Gabon.

Athian · Post by **Athian** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:15 am

magical elven armor aint all that great unless you have magic to use it with. and gorge didn't anyway. items like that can be obtained in quests and such or through a rp process dont' just assume the GM's hand out things.

as to the fighting system. might also be a difference in weapons now. or maybe the whole of the equipment effects players. so whats on your legs, torso, feet, head and in your hands might effect it

for Example. when Ath holds a wand he dodges almst every blow from mummies skeletions and demon skeletions. but if he got a staff they'll hit him. mind you he wearsmostly leathers.

Kl'urk · Post by **Kl'urk** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:16 am

Whats your dodge? Don't sounds like that should be so.

Athian · Post by **Athian** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:19 am

yea i thought that too Kl'urk. but then i put on some heavier armor and they were smacking me hella hard again (well the demon skeletions anyway). and my dodge isn't wonderful.

tested it out with some warrior folk. they missed a few strokes but landed a few as well.

p.s. they still hit me from behind in either case btw

Kl'urk · Post by **Kl'urk** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:20 am

Berengar wears lorangur and all other metall stuff, and Kl'urk seldom hits him, and if it is the parry. on the other side, if he wears full leather, it is not much different. nothing is! in full leather he gets the same damage from Kl'urk as wearing full metall!

Markous · Post by **Markous** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:21 am

First of all: Stop this yelling at the new system because you suck now.

The new fighting system is no more only based on skill and attributes.

Stiffness of the armor, rock-paper-scissor, and quality of the armor/weapon is important also.

Edit: You need to start thinking. A metal armor, a big weapon, and high weapon skill are no guarantee for winning a fight. Thinking is the key.

Kl'urk · Post by **Kl'urk** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:22 am

I think you read and understood nothing of the stuff we wrote the last pages. So thanks for making a comment not important for our problems

Markous · Post by **Markous** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:25 am

I did understand indeed.

Poots · Post by **Poots** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:26 am

yeah, I like the new system in general. before I felt like everyone (mostly) was as good as they could get (not me of course).

There are quiet a few flaws but they're being checked on right now. and like Markous said, you do have to think. som people are just your weakness and you won't beat them even if you wear the super uber magickal light heavy lor whatever armour.

Athian · Post by **Athian** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:29 am

there's that lovely ping of irony again. i'd link to the topic but well it's right above us on the list.

i think the compliant is mostly coming from the dueling section of the fighters. we're not talking about fights to kill eachother i think, we're talking about honorable duels. no one is invincible. and everyone has a way to lose, but there are going to be some people you can not take down head to head.

falco1029 · Post by **falco1029** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:31 am

One thing thats stupid is that flies seem to be good at blocking. THey shouldnt block at all. I mean sure, Ules isnt some strong fighter, but even he should be able to overpower a fly's hands...

maybe iot's like the old cartoons where bugs form together into a shield or something to block

Athian · Post by **Athian** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:35 am

the shield you see is just a visual effect from parry i believe and yea swarm of flies would be out of your way alot. want to talk crazy dodge skills lets talk rabbits. have you tired to hit a rabbit from the front? jebus

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:36 am

rabbits are fast animals.. ever tried to catch a wild hare ?

falco1029 · Post by **falco1029** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:36 am

Yeah but you said parry, and thats what i suually see. They dont ahve anything to parry with. I can see them easily dodging, but not parrying....

Athian · Post by **Athian** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:37 am

either way you'll get the same effect. hard to hit. i'm sure it could be changed but it's just an ends to a mean, no point in bothering with it. it's just visually irking

Poots · Post by **Poots** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:38 am

falco1029 wrote:One thing thats stupid is that flies seem to be good at blocking. THey shouldnt block at all. I mean sure, Ules isnt some strong fighter, but even he should be able to overpower a fly's hands...

maybe iot's like the old cartoons where bugs form together into a shield or something to block

no, they turn into one giant hand and throw you out or town.

falco1029 · Post by **falco1029** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:39 am

Athian wrote:either way you'll get the same effect. hard to hit. i'm sure it could be changed but it's just an ends to a mean, no point in bothering with it. it's just visually irking

Yes it is! Besides, it'd take 10 seconds to do, if it's organized nicely.

Markous · Post by **Markous** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:43 am

Have you ever tried to fight a swarm of flies alone?

Team-fighting is the key to victory in the new system.

I would also like to point out, that we have 10 possible types of the same monster. There may be weak flies, but there are also nasty mosquitos. (They have the same graphical apprearance though.)

Athian · Post by **Athian** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:48 am

Have you ever tried to fight a swarm of flies alone?

yes. i pwned them with my mad ninja skills

(disclaimer:ninja skills real. fly pwnage totally fictional)

again as i said this conversation is more about who can beat who in a duel not who can defeat who. rules have changed alot, but you won't find 2v1 in a duel of honor.

falco1029 · Post by **falco1029** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:48 am

Markous wrote:Have you ever tried to fight a swarm of flies alone?

Team-fighting is the key to victory in the new system.

I would also like to point out, that we have 10 possible types of the same monster. There may be weak flies, but there are also nasty mosquitos. (They have the same graphical apprearance though.)

well that's annoying. We need to be able to right click monsters and pcik examine, and base don perception get either a vague or detailed description of their strength...

Athian · Post by **Athian** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:52 am

i do that all the time

example: rabbit= no prob/panther=holy S@#!

i think it's nice to be surprised every so often. to much information isnt any fun. beside while you examine the monster he'll be ripping your face off. how well can ya see then chief?

Poots · Post by **Poots** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:53 am

that would be pretty nifty. make and actual use of perception .