Please report: Monsterdrop

Retlak · Post by **Retlak** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 6:39 pm

Using either 2 fists or 2 weapons causes double drops. In my tests.

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:06 pm

I think i worked it out...

When you attack with 2 weapons, there sometimes appears 2 seperate hits (even the sound does twice really close).

When something dies, first it drops, then it disappears.

Could it be that the server detects the attack on the 'dead' creature (just before it disappears) and counts that as a kill as well?

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:48 am

Hadrian_Abela wrote: When you attack with 2 weapons, there sometimes appears 2 seperate hits (even the sound does twice really close).

Not sometimes, always, its just nearly undetectable.

Gort told my char that he got a gold coin from a demon skeleton. Is this right? No hard feelings if his char lied, but I recommended he report this in ooc, since this shouldn't be happening.

Adano Eles · Post by **Adano Eles** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:57 am

That's what I guessed as well. If you manage to hit with both weapons and the monster dies the kill seems to be calculated for both and you get double drop.

Post by **Estralis Seborian** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 12:09 pm

Indeed, demon skeletons are not supposed to drop gold coins. There is just one type of monster that drops gold coins at 1% and if you are able to kill one in your Illarion life time, you're a lucky one.

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 9:14 pm

The skeletons down in cherga's temple... the ones furthur down (not so hard), drop coins.. i picked up 5 coins from one..

5 coins is not enough When some mummies drop scale armor which is worth 22...

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:14 am

Hadrian, many drop full leatherarmor with is worth nearly 70.

Adano Eles · Post by **Adano Eles** » Thu May 04, 2006 5:41 pm

Ich finde es ja sehr schön dass Mumien Teller und dergleichen droppen (als Grabbeigaben) aber Humpen? Ist das ein Tempel oder eine Kneipe? Wenn das da unten nicht gerade Schnapsleichen sind ist der Humpen doch ein wenig fehl am Platz, meiner Ansicht nach.

Post by **Estralis Seborian** » Thu May 04, 2006 5:44 pm

Hmm, hierbei habe ich auch an Grabbeigaben gedacht. Da Kelche zu wertvoll für Mumien sind, habe ich diese Glasdinger genommen. Was würde denn besser passen?

Adano Eles · Post by **Adano Eles** » Thu May 04, 2006 6:24 pm

Hm... Kerzenständer? Kann man die irgendwo verkaufen?

Salathe · Post by **Salathe** » Thu May 04, 2006 7:36 pm

Gnolls drop all poor quality items, while the humans north of them drop good quality items, and coins. And the gnolls seem twice as hard. Gnoll drops should be better

Adano Eles · Post by **Adano Eles** » Fri May 05, 2006 6:47 pm

Estralis Seborian wrote:Hmm, hierbei habe ich auch an Grabbeigaben gedacht. Da Kelche zu wertvoll für Mumien sind, habe ich diese Glasdinger genommen. Was würde denn besser passen?

Suppenschüsseln vielleicht auch. Die sind dem NPC gerade 2 Kupfer wert.
Dass das "Suppenschüsseln" sind ist mir in dem Moment gleich. Dann macht halt jemand Suppe in einer Opferschale. Mich stört eher die Grafik des Bierhumpens.

Post by **Estralis Seborian** » Sat May 06, 2006 2:19 pm

Salathe wrote:Gnolls drop all poor quality items, while the humans north of them drop good quality items, and coins. And the gnolls seem twice as hard. Gnoll drops should be better

The quality differs not that much. Remember that a) the quality of a dropped item is random within a given frame b) your char won't know the exact quality.

Quality of gnoll drops ranges from 2-5 while human drops range from 3-6 on scale 0-9. I have lowered the gnoll drops quality due to the fact that gnolls live in the wilderness, hunt stuff and bark instead of crafting precious amuletts, forming complex guilds and writing poems; they are too dumb to craft good items.

From a gameplay-point-of-view, I agree, stronger monsters should drop better stuff than weak monsters. However, the drop should fit the monsters. By the way, before this update, all monsters dropped stuff with quality 3, so, most gnoll stuff you find is better than the stuff that was dropped before the update.

@Adano: I will change that.

Gort Greegog · Post by **Gort Greegog** » Sat May 06, 2006 3:47 pm

Could some one please tell me why skeletons drop silver ware? Or why mummies drop mugs with lids?

Theon · Post by **Theon** » Sat May 06, 2006 3:52 pm

Maybe they were heavy drinkers in the past life.

Adano Eles · Post by **Adano Eles** » Sat May 06, 2006 3:53 pm

The mugs are currently being replaced. I adressed that in the German posts above.

Post by **Estralis Seborian** » Sat May 06, 2006 9:33 pm

Gort Greegog wrote:Could some one please tell me why skeletons drop silver ware?

This will also be changed - anytime you encounter non fitting drops, please, name something that might fit the monsters. Like "Skeletons shouldn't drop cutlery for they usually don't eat anymore. I suggest rusted chains or bones as a replacement."

Salathe · Post by **Salathe** » Sat May 13, 2006 12:51 am

demon skellies definately need up drops. Killed about 15 of them, and alltogether i lost 2 of each piece of armor, and 2 weaps, and used a decent amount of potions. In the end all i got was 15 silver and a good cursed shield. Every demon skeleton drops silver (thats good) but thats pretty much it, the only. They tend to drop scissors (wtf?), short swords, serinjas swor,d chain helm, and a golden ring (got once) all of these being about average/high scraped, the cursed shield was quite good, used though.

I think they should drop some better weap/armors (2h sword? reg steel plate?) maybe some gems, other random valuables

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Sat May 13, 2006 1:41 am

Its pretty luck based Sal, I have gotton a normal, scratched ruby ring from them. I think that probobly they should drop some sort of weak armor, as the armor they wear is pretty damn good.

Samantha Meryadeles · Sun May 14, 2006 11:42 am

Trolls dropping half leatherarmor...i dont think trolls are using armor ^_^

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Sun May 14, 2006 12:01 pm

Probobly gotton from an unfortunate victim(s). Can't beleive I just got a sibanac pipe from a ogre mage haha, thats great.

Post by **Estralis Seborian** » Sun May 14, 2006 5:15 pm

The amount of items dropped by monsters is equal for almost all monsters. In average, 100 monsters drop 199 items, including the so called perma drop. Concerning demon skeletons, there are 5 types of them, some of them drop artifacts, rings, wands, icebirds... the type of demonskelli you are referring to is the weakest one. Inside a group of monsters, the drops get more and more valuable the stronger the monster is. So, either compete with stronger monsters or, if you don't find any, ask for them being spawned somewhere.

Concerning the quality of demon skeleton drops, they are good enough. Just don't let the lookAt fool you, the words used are quite drastic; an item of medium quality and durability would be called scrap.

Concerning leather armor for trolls: Suggest a replacement. I think leather armor is quite fitting.

Sore · Post by **Sore** » Mon May 22, 2006 3:08 pm

Pigs are not droping leather or pork. I know that they should do so.

Post by **Estralis Seborian** » Mon May 22, 2006 4:24 pm

Flyprayed.

falco1029 · Post by **falco1029** » Mon May 22, 2006 9:08 pm

Estralis Seborian wrote:
Concerning leather armor for trolls: Suggest a replacement. I think leather armor is quite fitting.

What do they drop other than armor?

Post by **Estralis Seborian** » Tue May 23, 2006 9:03 am

Weapons and stuff like plants.

Animal drops should work again. thx@Nitram.