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the rate doesn't seem that fast to me, my rates probably slowers since i tend to be whacking my target as well as casting at it.

as to the difference items like cursed sheilds and such make it's fairly huge. for instance i can take out an skeletion, which has one of the weakest magic defenses in the game in four blows. which means my spell is doing 1/4th damage, if there using a cursed shield or something of the like it can take up to eight shots to defeat them. i'm sure it has some to do with your stats and such but if wer'e talking mage to fighter, which the mage already not able to live through 3 or 4 blows all you need is that extra three seconds to win.

and there are enough mage npc's to test those item Arameh, again something you should already know. they'll be happy to attempt kill anyone that wanders by. though fore warning for all they're bugged. so you won't see the spells when they hit you.

someone should fix that.

Theses sheilds might help agaisnt mages, but not agaisnt warlocks. Think about it, you want to kill him the fastest you can, so he have less time casting spells at you. Striking a one handed weapons (which is at least 2x weaker) agaisnt a warlock is useless, as he can parry or dodge a part of the hits, the others not hurting enought to take him down. So we got to use strong and quick weapons so we dont get stalled for fricking 5 seconds, like double axes, thus getting killed by a machinegunning of fireballs while getting hit.

Thats why there aren't many Arameh. i'm the only teacher and i don't plan on flooding the world with them. they have fairly obvisous weaknesses as well if you know how to exploit them. as i said before stop thinking about trying to kill of every magic vocation there is.

besides if you read the psots up i said that spells from halfers are only half as effective, as in half as powerful it it took a full mage 6 hits with a magic buffering item then it takes a halfer 10-14 to do the same. it's all relitive.

are you going to be trying to kill me sometimes soon Arameh, cause this is the same level of nuscience complaints as yesterday. warlocks and hhalfers are skill based not stat based unless there around there bright green/yellows in skill there not that tough.

Youre on the defensive . No one plans to kill Athian for obvious reasons, I dont need to repeat them. They may have 2x weaker spells, but they are maybe 10x more resillient to hits, if we uses some maths it makes them 5 times stronger than mages agaisnt fighters. The only thing I want is that the game be balanced, and what you want is to keep your character super strong so he come in town and bully other, in a way. Now back on topic hm?


Edit : Stop writing about me in a MAGIC TOPIC, and I will stop too .

Not sure if this system has changed, but a while back Retlak was fighting Samantha and She would shoot the fireballs only when she was a few spaces away, and it seemed like she could not shoot them while the target was next to her. Is this true?

Edit: Obviously they would run from attacks.. but at first i was not attacking or whatever.

No, mages that gets attacked can still cast, they are mages so they dont feel pain what are you thinking? Why would a mage feel any pain they are super magic beings .

Arameh, perfect balance isn't what makes a game fun. there's always a class that outclasses another in any game you play that you just have to deal with. there always a way to defeat someone. but if you only use the hack and slash method then yes eventually you'll run into someone you can't beat.

if you were fighting Samantha, she was probably to busy trying to survive. also she probably wasn't holding her wand (because she didn't want to get it damaged) without a wand the only way to be 100 percent accurate is to be face to face. with your target.

again, blame the wand. not the caster.

and no not defensive. Ath dies plenty, but everytime you bring something up it's always about who can and can't die how. as i said plenty of ways to do things.

As Athian said. I was too busy to survive.

And Arameh, you are the last one who should speak about players ignoring that their chars get hurt or wounded. you are one of those comming back from the cross as if nothing happened to them.

Plenty of ways? There are no ways for a fighter to beat a warlock. And yeah, balance between professions makes a game more fun. And yeah, Samantha would die quickly( I think), she she would be busy running around. Warlock just stay here can cast and you make a trip to the yellow cross. Wands uh?! Thats part of the magic system, we could change that yesh? Athian not defensive? That made me laughs, youre running around with your metal armor in which you can cast magic in,( I dont wanna know how you got it), and probably with nearly maxed parry, dont tell me Athian is not defensive.

Samantha Meryadeles wrote:As Athian said. I was too busy to survive.

And Arameh, you are the last one who should speak about players ignoring that their chars get hurt or wounded. you are one of those comming back from the cross as if nothing happened to them.

WTF are you talking about? Name me whe nI did that once.

your fighter fighters don't stand much a chance.

archers and magic resistant enemies can mess me up though. sadly your niether one.

This is sooo ridiculous!
Magic is - as mentioned before - absolutely alright.
Fighting is easier than throwing around fire, but i guess fire can hurt you more than a blade.
So... please -.-

The magic system is perfect, imho.

Agreed.

Athian wrote:your fighter fighters don't stand much a chance.

archers and magic resistant enemies can mess me up though. sadly your niether one.

They are no magic resistant characters and about 3 archers ig.

Arameh, There is a metal armor that you can cast magic in. It's very hard to find (I believe it can only be smithed, not taken off NPC's) that is as light as leather, and as protective as metal armor. Allowing casting from within that armor. There are also a few weapons that don't hinder your spells too much when you cast. But I'm not going to release the information, thats what you have to find out by yourself.

thats my fault how?

Lance must you always Agree!?!

i can quote you throughout this topic 50 times with that word!

Taylor wrote:Arameh, There is a metal armor that you can cast magic in. It's very hard to find (I believe it can only be smithed, not taken off NPC's) that is as light as leather, and as protective as metal armor. Allowing casting from within that armor. There are also a few weapons that don't hinder your spells too much when you cast. But I'm not going to release the information, thats what you have to find out by yourself.

Hmm? I know about the elven magic armor, im not asking to know anything about it as I already do, it is not smithable.

Retlak wrote:Lance must you always Agree!?!

i can quote you throughout this topic 50 times with that word!

Agreed.

Retlak wrote:Lance must you always Agree!?!

i can quote you throughout this topic 50 times with that word!

Let him, thats his way to argue.

Arameh_ wrote:

Retlak wrote:Lance must you always Agree!?!

i can quote you throughout this topic 50 times with that word!

Let him, thats his way to argue.

Agreed.

Lance must you always Agree!?!

i can quote you throughout this topic 50 times with that word!

Indeed.

Athian wrote:thats my fault how?

I never said anything was your fault, the magic resistance is bugged and no one wants to buy 10000 arrows to be able to shoot them at 6 tiles when experienced. But just fucking tell me Athian is defeatable by one warrior, or even 2.

so people don't want to become archers because it takes a long time. well it my character a long time to beocme this strong. and he's not even that great so far long way to go still

if someone wants to be an archer they have to practise it, sinc eit's not impossible to practise, then there's no excuse for there not being many archer/rangers in game. that just means people don't want to make the effort, it's hard not impossible.

and maybe there's some warrior who can't defeat me. but when this become all about me anyway. i don't think i'm the topic, your just being whiny now.

Hmm, not every warriors? Lets go test it, we goin test server and I get Athian's skills, equoipment and attributes. You take the 2 best fighters ig, I can swear you I would pwn them.

Lets make it fair shal we Athian?

Gm's give archers infinite arrows. - i have no idea why i mention infinite arrows. But anyway:

Athian you are being attention seeking throughout what i have read, Arameh is making points and you are trying to put him down for just stating facts.
From what he says compliments your skills and attributes, so stop whining.

Retlak, that'd be lovely if it were true. when have i been attention seeking? why the hell do you think i give a danm what you or anyone else thinks. did i ask for compliments, do i even want compliments no. so why don't you give it a rest. why would arrows be infinite. mana runs out like arrows run out. the only reason thats not happening right now because all our food bars never seem to decrease. that i don't know why on.

frankly i'd love to stop tlkaing about warlocks this and that


but...

Warlocks, lets take Athian as example, no warriors can possibly give him a hard time.

Athian what are your stats if you dont mind posting them?

Theses sheilds might help agaisnt mages, but not agaisnt warlocks

But just fucking tell me Athian is defeatable by one warrior, or even 2.

all i've done is respond to things like these, so yes i guess i'm seeking that much attention.

Well what can i say.

Arameh you had some valid points but you argue it in the wrong way and make yourself look like an idiot. I like you fella but sometimes the truth hurts.

Making a personal attack against Athian is uncalled for, but mainly your points you are arguing truely are repeatative.

Unless you come up with a better arguement than ' Your characters better than mine ' This debate will go nowhere.

Another fact of the matter is i always argue with Athian out of spite, its what i do. Yet you make me speak up for him, truely a bad day.

Athian @Well dude you cant even understand what Retlak meant, anyways. I dont care of your stats, its a fact that fighters dont have a chance about warlocks and theses sheidls dosent help. Anbd no you didntrespond to half of theses.

Seems Athian obviously does not understand. Enough said.

Aristeaus wrote:Well what can i say.

Arameh you had some valid points but you argue it in the wrong way and make yourself look like an idiot. I like you fella but sometimes the truth hurts.

Making a personal attack against Athian is uncalled for, but mainly your points you are arguing truely are repeatative.

Unless you come up with a better arguement than ' Your characters better than mine ' This debate will go nowhere.

Another fact of the matter is i always argue with Athian out of spite, its what i do. Yet you make me speak up for him, truely a bad day.

The "personnal" attack I made on him were after he did the same to me, only. I do that ONLY when I get done the same. Repeatative?! Yeah cause everyone fricking ingnore them , I will stop repeating when he stops ignoring them. And there is no ' Your characters better than mine ' argument, its ' your chararacter gives no chance to any warrior '.