Magic Discussion

xBaurusx · Post by **xBaurusx** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:52 am

What a surprize... You deny everyone.

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:53 am

Yeah but I dont stop hearing that magic skill is uber long to learn, and takes a mighty patience. Well it dosent seem to be that hard to learn, most mages got their magic powerful in week times.

To me its still one of the easiest skill, I already see some peoples posting "no its mega hard to learn skill colour is hardest to change I asked GMs" or whatever, yeah the skill itself it long to learn. But as opposite to others, you can use it freackign everywhere, anytime. You can have fun closing and opening doors, making food which you can even make money with, at 0 cost.

Warriors have to get their ass at the bandit camp, boring minutes of walking, to get skill a tin faster than magic, while losing their equipment they paid while doing something shitty like killing pigs. Smiths needs to go mine their ass into mines, (which gets awfully boring after the 10 000 coal), and smelt the sheets, and make crap 80% of the time. Needing something like 40000 sheets to get any good, just try mining 1% of that.
Cooks and farmers work their ass off for ridiculously low profits, and a not so easy speed of skill gain.

I could tell tons like that, to me most of the magic is kept by peoples wanting it all for themselves, happy in their runes and and stuff, gicing crappy reasons not to teach students or inventing some. To me magic is too hard to get a start to learn it and it holds too many advantages, they have advantages over any professions, which I would name if I didnt want my post to be read cause of overtext.

Thanks for listening

Samantha Meryadeles · Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:55 am

Thanks because of listening to a post containing 100 % nonsense? lol, you are welcome

xBaurusx · Post by **xBaurusx** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:56 am

LOL that was better than Retlaks

*high fives Samantha*

Retlak · Post by **Retlak** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:56 am

You all got pwned.

Aramehs post has made 100% true facts.

Come on Arameh don't let me die here.

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:56 am

Samantha Meryadeles wrote:Thanks because of listening to a post containing 100 % nonsense? lol, you are welcome

Nice argument

xBaurusx · Post by **xBaurusx** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:57 am

But magic still rocks... Arameh is just angry because sword fighting is a much harder thing to do... it was his choice.. if he wanted he coulda beena mage with the right stats...

Although swords have there benefits.

Retlak · Post by **Retlak** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:58 am

Correction, because there are not many mages who want to teach anyone but chars that the PO's are friends with. Arameh could not have learned magic.

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:59 am

xBaurusx wrote:But magic still rocks... Arameh is just angry because sword fighting is a much harder thing to do... it was his choice.. if he wanted he coulda beena mage with the right stats...

Although swords have there benefits.

Hmm? I could make a mage character, but I dont want to. YOU really dont know what were talking about, but you had a point

But magic still rocks

, yeah it rocks, too much.

Nalzaxx · Post by **Nalzaxx** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:59 am

STOOOOOOP

My flame detector is twitching violently. I think the discussion has ended, everyone has made their points (and their snide comments) lets all end this like adults!

xBaurusx · Post by **xBaurusx** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:59 am

Not know what you was talking... PFFTT.... ok yea lets end this.

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:00 am

Retlak wrote:Correction, because there are not many mages who want to teach anyone but chars that the PO's are friends with. Arameh could not have learned magic.

I never really wanted to leanr magic with Arameh, I will answer why in Samantha's way"This dosent concern you! You know nothing about Arameh!".

Retlak · Post by **Retlak** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:01 am

Don't get argueing with me now i am on your side for once!

xBaurusx · Post by **xBaurusx** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:01 am

she probably wont teach ay cuz your in the knighthood.. and you use close combat weapons.. try Athian for being a warlock.

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:02 am

Retlak wrote:Don't get argueing with me now i am on your side for once!

Was just a precision, if i really wantedto learn magic I would have made a character for it

Samantha Meryadeles · Post by **Samantha Meryadeles** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:03 am

Not a single po of samanthas students is a friend of mine. i dont even know them ooc, or speak with them.

Nalzaxx · Post by **Nalzaxx** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:03 am

You are still part of the badass OOC mage circle

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:04 am

Samantha Meryadeles wrote:Not a single po of samanthas students is a friend of mine. i dont even know them ooc, or speak with them.

Right, if they are in your head thats highly possible though

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Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:04 am

You would dislike magic too if you were a completely skill based player, who powergamed a warrior to shit, to get pushed aside by mages. I mean, God forbid magic be stronger, considering it is one of the most important things in medieval fantasy, it's what flows through the world, and has been passed down for thousands of years.

xBaurusx · Post by **xBaurusx** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:06 am

Yea... fooser your right... to bad we all like magic.

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:06 am

Fooser wrote:You would dislike magic too if you were a completely skill based player, who powergamed a warrior to shit, to get pushed aside by mages. I mean, God forbid magic be stronger, considering it is one of the most important things in medieval fantasy, it's what flows through the world, and has been passed down for thousands of years.

Yeah, and learned in thousands of mini seconds ig now. Im ok with that they are better, but now they are too much better, see what I mean? I listed some reasons earlier, read them and have fun.

Retlak · Post by **Retlak** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:07 am

I do believe there are students..

Retlak rubs his boney chin
guy1: [Anc] *****************
guy2: [Anc] ********
Retlak: Hello?
guy3: [Anc] *********************
guy7: [Anc] ****************************
Retlak: ....
guy 113: [Anc] *********

Too many mages for my liking.

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:08 am

Magic should be better. But yeah, you can argue how much or how little it should be. Right now I don't see how it is too overpowered. There are some really obnoxious spells like the moving ones and I don't know why they even put them in, but oh well.

Samantha Meryadeles · Post by **Samantha Meryadeles** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:09 am

Reasons that are not true, since you have not the slightest clue about what you wrote. you have just your own wrong ideas based on frustration and enviousness. it is useless to discuss that further with you.

Djironnyma · Post by **Djironnyma** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:09 am

Arameh_ wrote:Yeah but I dont stop hearing that magic skill is uber long to learn, and takes a mighty patience. Well it dosent seem to be that hard to learn, most mages got their magic powerful in week times.

On one hand you wand learn magic, on the outher you complain that the mages learn to fast magic, what they need to teach it... Can you please choose what you wand? Learn magic or have weak mages?

Arameh_ wrote: You can have fun closing and opening doors, making food which you can even make money with, at 0 cost.

Play with doors or summond food bring you nearly no skill, beside of that i have never see a mage which sell food - at least i have never done

Arameh_ wrote: Warriors have to get their ass at the bandit camp,

a mage cant go into bandit camp, he would die there

Arameh_ wrote: Smiths needs to go mine their ass into mines, (which gets awfully boring after the 10 000 coal), and smelt the sheets, and make crap 80% of the time. Needing something like 40000 sheets to get any good, just try mining 1% of that.

You have absolut no idea how much time it need to become your magic skill up, you forget one importent fact, casting cost mana and mana rise very, very low....

Arameh_ wrote: I could tell tons like that,

i too, we can do it the whole night if you wand.

Arameh_ wrote: to me most of the magic is kept by peoples wanting it all for themselves,

uhm.... so please explain me why we have students?! nobody forces us to have.....

Arameh_ wrote: happy in their runes and and stuff, gicing crappy reasons not to teach students or inventing some. To me magic is too hard to get a start to learn it and it holds too many advantages, they have advantages over any professions, which I would name if I didnt want my post to be read cause of overtext.

for me you are only a envy player who has no idea about what he speak

Lance Thunnigan · Post by **Lance Thunnigan** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:11 am

Owned again, go DJI.

xBaurusx · Post by **xBaurusx** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:11 am

Dude arameh.. you got pwned...(i luv that word) Face it.. Mages Kick ass.

Edit: disturbing typo.

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:11 am

Retlak wrote:I do believe there are students..

Retlak rubs his boney chin
guy1: [Anc] *****************
guy2: [Anc] ********
Retlak: Hello?
guy3: [Anc] *********************
guy7: [Anc] ****************************
Retlak: ....
guy 113: [Anc] *********

Too many mages for my liking.

LoL, or the also very common:
guy1: [Anc] *** ***
guy1: [Anc] *** ***
guy1: [Anc] *** ***
guy1: [Anc] *** ***
guy1: [Anc] *** ***
guy1: [Anc] *** ***
guy1: [Anc] *** ***
Human: Greetings!
guy1: [Anc] *** ***
guy1: [Anc] *** ***
guy1: [Anc] *** ***
guy1: [Anc] *** ***
guy1: [Anc] *** ***

Samantha Meryadeles · Post by **Samantha Meryadeles** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:12 am

Hmm. That sounds like a mage training his orl kah and ignoring rp. To ignore someone other and do that in middle of town IS wrong.

Retlak · Post by **Retlak** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:15 am

That is not a mage teaching someone, i had a situation once where the guy did reply once, only once.

man: hello
guy1: [Anc] *****************
guy2: [Anc] ********
guy1: Hello
guy1: Later on i am have hamburgers for tea, what about you?
guy1: ((sorry that was ancient))
guy2: [Anc] ********