Magic Discussion

Arkadia Misella · Post by **Arkadia Misella** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 5:39 pm

K Fooser. I'll meet you in the tavern. Be sure to have 50 daggers on ya cause are characters are too lazy to, ya know, fight mummies. We'll just beat each other for a while.

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 5:42 pm

Dont forget to bring 20 of both helmets and metal gloves also, because they break quite easily. And potions, lots of them. And when we run out of food, potions, and gloves, we will both walk to the shop while still hitting eachother. When we hit the cap we will then sit in the tavern idling because we are too lazy to move, then when about an hour or so passes, we will start again.

Arkadia Misella · Post by **Arkadia Misella** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 5:44 pm

We are going to need a lot of food potions since being a warrior is going to drain our hunger bar 13x faster than any other profession. Who cares if we are eating the equivelant of what a 3rd world country eats each day..........our characters are just that cool.

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 5:45 pm

Yup, and eating all that food and rarely moving still allows us to have amazing looking female characters.

Samantha Meryadeles · Post by **Samantha Meryadeles** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 5:49 pm

Can you stop being stupid and spam this thread?

a low hunger bar means your char is hungry, a missing bar means he is starving! a starving char don't gets fat when he eats to stop starving

. It depents on what your char eats. Eats he just ham and cakes? or bananas and other fruits? bread?

Not how much, but what. When he is starving he should eat.

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 5:49 pm

Haha, yeah, Fooser made a real good point here.

Samantha Meryadeles · Post by **Samantha Meryadeles** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 5:50 pm

No, not really

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 5:52 pm

I think he did, if you dont make any exercises, and you eat a lot, whatever if it is apples, if you eat 100 a day, dont expect to be all thin and all. Some peoples could possibly stay thin, but MOST would get fat, quickly.

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 5:53 pm

Casting a spell doesn't remove food from ones stomach, not to my memory at least, but perhaps they have made a spell for that.

Samantha Meryadeles · Post by **Samantha Meryadeles** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 5:55 pm

A sinking foodbar means your body is burning what you ate. Your body gets more and more hungry because the he burns the food and whatelse for energy, and, by mages, for the mana. Using mana IS stress for your body, is making you tired and leaching. It is not easy.

So thats a reason why they are lazy the other time, because they are already tired from using mana *sighs*

But logic don't seems to work by you.

Effort for magic means less energy and wish to have effort for other things.

Using magic is strenuous

Caeldrian · Post by **Caeldrian** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 5:57 pm

Fooser wrote:Casting a spell doesn't remove food from ones stomach, not to my memory at least, but perhaps they have made a spell for that.

Your forgetting the new 'liposuction spell'.

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 5:59 pm

Someone can eat 50 apples, get the calories and such from it, and then use them for "mana" or whatever, but the extra material of the apple is still in your body...and that is a lot of waste.

Samantha Meryadeles · Post by **Samantha Meryadeles** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:02 pm

I won't tell you how often my char goes to the toilet, and I won't rp that ingame.

Just let me say you that your body also work up that "waste" faster than usual. You work up food you ate quicker when you go walking after the meal. than just sitting around.

Same is with using magic, and spending mana.

Shall we see how much warriors eat when they go killing skeletons or whatelse? since I can think we ate many, many food with our characters ingame. Is it when smithing and becoming hungry, is it when fighting, or doing anything else that use up your food bar. that is not a mage only thing!

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:08 pm

But going to the bathroom requires one to stand up and move a lot...or does it?

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:12 pm

Maybe they have a spell to make a tiolet appear in their pants so they can do their things in the shop while talking about tea time in ancient.

Misjbar · Post by **Misjbar** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:14 pm

I am not talking about tea when I am talking in ancient. My usual discussions involve the latest rumors about the island such as the whole Stephen became king thing, and about the magic meeting that is being organised by Samantha, or about my research. Also the occasional chatter with former students of the Magic Academy, but what do you expect? It is nearly becoming Misjilah's native language.

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:17 pm

Arameh_ wrote:Maybe they have a spell to make a tiolet appear in their pants so they can do their things in the shop while talking about tea time in ancient.

I hope you figured out my post was some kind oh joke

Samantha Meryadeles · Post by **Samantha Meryadeles** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:18 pm

it was spam, what is not allowed here. Same with posts from Fooser and also Arkadia. useless spam.

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:22 pm

No, thats called giving his opinion, when you say that they spam, your message is a spam

. So i must admit that my message saying you spam while saying other are spamming is a spam, and you most likely will say i spam cause i said your other message was a spam from saying the others spammed.

PS : This spam message have sence, even thought it dosent seem to have any.

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:24 pm

No that's alright Arameh I get your point, he's just being a hypocrite as usual, constantly telling others their race roles suck, they are skill obsessed, spammers, and other various nonsense, when he does the same. But of course he's right, not the topic for that.

Nalzaxx · Post by **Nalzaxx** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:04 pm

If you are unhappy about the roleplay of anyone, mage or otherwise, don't bitch about it, report it. Then if the GM's feel it is a problem they will go about fixing it.

If they decide it is not, then trust their wisdom.

Japheth · Post by **Japheth** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:08 pm

I would advise everyone to stop spamming. This is one of my stronger pieces of advice.

falco1029 · Post by **falco1029** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 10:11 pm

Quick question, are the ancient books still around? If so Ill need to get Ules once, that's probably a good start before learning magic....

Misjbar · Post by **Misjbar** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 10:13 pm

They are in the hands of the magisters. Apply with one of the few, and you could receive training in the ancient language.

falco1029 · Post by **falco1029** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 10:15 pm

Ules has several times. But none of them seem to be around anymore.

Misjbar · Post by **Misjbar** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 10:16 pm

Misjilah has been ingame quite often lately. So has Samantha.

falco1029 · Post by **falco1029** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 10:18 pm

I dont think Ules knows eithe rof them, he'll have to look them up. of cours,e he doesnt know those people ahev the books, so he cant look them up. i sppose he could ask around who might have them...hmm...

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 10:23 pm

Misjbar wrote:Misjilah has been ingame quite often lately. So has Samantha.

I didnt see Misjilah for a month or more...I guess we dont play in the same time then.

Post by **Nitram** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 10:33 pm

You are allowed to stop this spamming now.

I don't see a single reason for it.

If the food, or what ever the problem is, really would make the characters fat, we would have only fat characters.

I don't see a problem there.

Nitram

Korwin · Post by **Korwin** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 10:49 pm

I'm not trying to accuse anyone of powergaming, poor roleplaying, or abuse of magic. I am also not suggesting those characters that have runes do not deserve them.

What I am trying to suggest is that mages use their spells sparingly, in such a way that keeps magic impressive, and special.

If you had a washing machine (being used to model basic "common" magic) would you do all of your laundry by hand

The very idea of using a washing machine as an analogy for magic seems a bit ludicrous to me, but perhaps it already demonstrates what's happening to the idea of magic.

spells of such type are meant to be used how? what great cause can you help with a door opening spell or the likes?

Perhaps instead of using the spell as a substitue for every instance in which one needs to open a door, the spell could be used only when it was neccesary? Use the spell when an ogre is dashing towards an open door. Use the spell when a criminal is about to make his daring escape. Use it when a companion is running for a closed door to avoid certain death. However, please avoid using it to open doors just because you can.

Using mana IS stress for your body, is making you tired and leaching. It is not easy...Using magic is strenuous

Thank you, that's what we believe as well. If magic is strenuous, strenuous enough to require food consumption, wouldn't it be easier to walk? After all, walking doesn't drain your food bar.

for me that sounds like most of the ones complaining here are just envious

I suppose this could be a bit true in my case. It would be nice for my character to have all the runes, although I'm glad he wasn't chosen as one of the second generation teachers, he'd do a terrible job. Although I fail to see how 'envy' would invalidate all the points that have been made.

I'm not pushing for magic use to be looked down upon in all but the most dire of circumstances. However, if players are at all concerned with magic maintaining mystery, I would suggest they try and remove 'everyday' magic use from their characters. If this doesn't concern you, by all means, change nothing.