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Posted: Mon May 19, 2003 1:23 pm
by Darlok
Erm, there was never the question if i killed the Character "Kringrin" or not. I did.
Would you please read, the question was, if it was justified by Roleplaying or was i breaking a Rule and comitted Multi-Kill.

Posted: Mon May 19, 2003 1:31 pm
by Rishi
Oh sorry,
Well I mend that after what he did it's obvious you killed him so I don't see it as breaking rules......

Posted: Mon May 19, 2003 9:47 pm
by paul laffing
Hm, I see that its obvious that Kringin died... :wink:

Anyway, another anology. If you were the skule bully and someone threw an airplane at you in class, you would have your friends beat him up. Then, would you go and beat him up again right after your friends beat him up? I don't think I would, nor would it make much sense...

Posted: Mon May 19, 2003 9:55 pm
by Caranthir the great
Yeah, but your analogy doesn't fit, beacuse it's like comparing a car crash and someone dropping a plate on ground together.

Attempted murder is a lot more serious than someone throwing paper aircrafts. Not comparable.

Posted: Tue May 20, 2003 1:49 am
by paul laffing
Caranthir the great wrote:Yeah, but your analogy doesn't fit, beacuse it's like comparing a car crash and someone dropping a plate on ground together.

Attempted murder is a lot more serious than someone throwing paper aircrafts. Not comparable.
I wasn't comparing those parts, I was comparing the punishment. Tell me, how many death sentences did Timothy McVeigh get for killing hundreds of people and little children? One, right? And how many death sentences did Kringin get? Two. How does that work? And don't tell me that is a bad analogy.

Posted: Tue May 20, 2003 1:52 am
by Kringin
hmm after i was killed the first time all i did was ask for an apology because he had killed me a year ago (RP wise) and he did not he killed me. It was totally unprovoked. I was about to walk off them bam he started to attack me. I am not trying report anything, just setting many examples.

Thank you.

Posted: Tue May 20, 2003 6:27 am
by Serpardum
Wait, let me get this straight, after you got rezed at the cross *you* asked him to apologize?

That was pretty stupid, IMO.

Posted: Tue May 20, 2003 8:00 pm
by Ellaron
I think I see the problem now. You tried to argue with Darlok that your killing of him was just and that he should apologize for killing you a while ago. What you failed to take into account is that Darloks main argument is about three feet long, made of metal and has a pointy end.

Posted: Wed May 21, 2003 8:04 am
by Serpardum
Right, someone kills you, you don't go up to them and start harrassing them again. Slink away with your tail between your legs <g>

Someone kills you, then you go up them and harrass them again, YOU are the one who is doing the bad RP.

Posted: Thu May 22, 2003 2:37 am
by paul laffing
Serpardum wrote:Wait, let me get this straight, after you got rezed at the cross *you* asked him to apologize?

That was pretty stupid, IMO.
Errr... what does IMO mean?

Posted: Thu May 22, 2003 3:57 am
by Crocket
IMO = In My Opinion
:wink:

Posted: Thu May 22, 2003 4:14 am
by paul laffing
Crocket wrote:IMO = In My Opinion
:wink:
Thank you. Serpardum, please use language that all of us can understand.

Paul smirks.

That felt really good. :twisted:

Posted: Fri May 23, 2003 4:24 am
by Serpardum
I just searched the forums for IMO. I found two pages worth.

Posted: Fri May 23, 2003 4:44 am
by paul laffing
so? Does that make it right?

Posted: Fri May 23, 2003 8:29 am
by Serpardum
paul laffing wrote:Thank you. Serpardum, please use language that all of us can understand.

It just means that everyone has understood it before.

Posted: Wed May 28, 2003 1:08 am
by Mishrack
Back to the topic tho.
Considering the awful state rp has come to these days, maybe we should not only focus on weeding out from the people joining now, but also have a little glance at the people already somewhat established here already. Of course this has been proposed before and so forth, but how can we weed out all those who are slowly but surely destroying the game for us?
Obviously quite a few names come to mind, but how can we insure that those who come through the account application actually do intend to not just play the game but actually interact with it?

Time and again, I personally see this coming back to the question of maturity... There are of course countless fantastic roleplayers out there many of whom are under 16 and such, but there just seems to be many more who just dont fit. It's all very good with this game being recommended to ages 16 and over, but considering that most people dont even bother browsing the site before playing, and that many others just dont care...

I suppose it's no news, but many of us are after all slowly starting to wonder why we still bother.

Posted: Wed May 28, 2003 2:30 am
by paul laffing
Hey, I'd like to see you try roleplaying a 15 year old human. :lol:

Posted: Wed May 28, 2003 4:39 am
by Sir Gannon
Well im sure Mish could do a better job at it than you Paul.... *Grins evily*

Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2003 12:40 pm
by Konstantin K
Are people afraid to die so badly?
Big deal, you got killed multiple times. Escape, ask for help, go get the bad guy.
How much do you lose when you die?

Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2003 12:43 pm
by Hermie
You lose about a weeks worth of skills, and that wasn't even the point of what Mish said.

Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2003 12:52 pm
by Mishrack
What I meant is:
These days, you log on and try to roleplay. Almost immediately, some kid jumps around screaming he's possessed, and attacks people. a few seconds later, another person appears and claims that they are the master of theuniverse, and begins casting fire everywhere...

Then two people walk by talking about last night's basketball game...

Let us not forget though, that some self proclaimed saint will have bugged you about 10 times by now asking you if you are evil, and sayign that he is good and will destroy all evil... Let us al bow down to the great hero...


With all that going on, it becomes positively hard to rp ye know...
Just take a look today at the RP board, what do you see?
One person suddenly claims he's a werewolf...
You have another kid who keeps going around saying he's dead and the town must burn...
and more so, a proclamation that there should be a dueling day...

Do you see what we are up against?!

Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2003 7:09 pm
by paul laffing
Mishrack wrote: You have another kid who keeps going around saying he's dead and the town must burn...
I am not aware that I walked around saying I was dead, and I never said the town must burn, I did it. :twisted:

But Paul is long dead and will not bother you again, but I am annoyed that everyone who was there practically ignored his death and forgot about it! I was expecting something... but I had to go and post it myself! What happened there?!?!

Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2003 7:22 pm
by Crocket
Mishrack wrote:.....and more so, a proclamation that there should be a dueling day...

Do you see what we are up against?!
um, exactly what is wrong with that?
The knights of old days dueled all the time. They always held festivals and contests where they would joust and battle with swords.

Not to mention the gladiators of Rome.

Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2003 7:34 pm
by paul laffing
But do you see how frustrating it was for me that a major figure dies and no one notices!! :evil: :evil:

Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2003 7:36 pm
by Mishrack
I think the term you are looking for is "generally ignored" figure died...

Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2003 7:38 pm
by Mishrack
Crocket, To me that just sonds like another attempt at justifying training, and goes to show that some people are getting desperate with not being able to hack n slash things...

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2003 1:13 am
by Crocket
Mishrack wrote:Crocket, To me that just sonds like another attempt at justifying training, and goes to show that some people are getting desperate with not being able to hack n slash things...
Of course it is.
You HAVE to train and this is one way to do it. This is not powergaming but TRAINING. People seem to get it mixed up a lot. And you sometimes have to hack n slash in order to release your aggresive tendancies. People still do it in today's time.

Ways people release aggresion today....
- hunting
- sports
- exercise
- watch a violent movie
- speeding
- fighting

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2003 1:38 am
by paul laffing
Crocket wrote:
Mishrack wrote:Crocket, To me that just sonds like another attempt at justifying training, and goes to show that some people are getting desperate with not being able to hack n slash things...
Of course it is.
You HAVE to train and this is one way to do it. This is not powergaming but TRAINING. People seem to get it mixed up a lot. And you sometimes have to hack n slash in order to release your aggresive tendancies. People still do it in today's time.

Ways people release aggresion today....
- hunting
- sports
- exercise
- watch a violent movie
- speeding
- fighting
...murder, abuse relatives/friends, riots, drugs...

Oh, I forgot one. Football. :D

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2003 1:41 am
by Crocket
yes, well my whole point is people HAVE to release their aggresion in some form or another and fighting and killing just happen to be the preffered way.

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2003 1:45 am
by paul laffing
Someone invent football, quickly! :wink: