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Lennier wrote:You would prefer rocks as barriers in all shadows instead of the current situation?

It would stop the complaints and exploitation, therefore, yes.

Well, I somehow like this idea.

Why should it be possibel to run into the shadows when it it forbidden?
As long as there is no other solution I would like such a barrier. But rocks... can't it be an invisible barrier?

They would be invisble because they would be behind the shadows.

Oh
Then no problem, I guess

Nitram wrote:One should think humans are able to learn and grow up and get mature.

There is a fix on how people would not go behind buildings.

Barriers like rocks or hedges make sense to me, maybe hedges make the most sense, what town is strewn with rocks anyway.

Coslam

Aernor Ingloril wrote:Barriers like rocks or hedges make sense to me, maybe hedges make the most sense, what town is strewn with rocks anyway.

Coslam

Silverbrand?

Barriers, hedges or cows; It won't matter because they'll be INVISIBLE.

Yes please Lenny, do that.

LifeWonder wrote:Yes please Lenny, do that.

...but leave some gaps for RP-opportunities. It is a good thing to have shadows where one can hide to e.g. ambush a rich, fat trader, but it is a bad thing that one can run around freely in the shadows of building, abusing them for persona-play.

I am not sure whether an upcoming server update will solve the problem. I am still unsure why the rocks that once served the purpose of blocking the inner building shadows where removed. Might have been a victim of the map expansion.

The Returner wrote:Oh I agree its possible for players to work around the bug in favor of the rules. But thats not the technical staffs job. Their job is to fix bugs and implement new, well tested features. And lately its been one "new flashy" turd after another.

This game was technicly sound in 2001. And well developed in 2003. And now the bastards busted.

I want some frigging bug fixes if their so worried about exploited bugs.

Well, it is good to know that there is someone who knows exactly what the technical staffs job is.

Listen up:
- there is no "They". This game is driven by volunteers. We haven't seen you volunteering anything useful. So either put yourself to work and help or shut up
- there is no "their jobs". This is our hobby and our spare time. If you don't like the pace or direction of progress, well - either put yourself to work and help or shut up
- you also seem to suffer from bad memory if you call the 2001 state "technically sound". I remember better since I fixed many of the severe problems back then. So if you had put yourself to work and helped...
- your posts show you are utterly clueless in technical matters or blessed with remarkable ignorance. You don't realize the difference between a minor bug fix and a complete rework of a client/server concept even after it has been explained to you.
- actually, it is not possible to "implement well-tested features". First you implement them, then they need to be tested. Which requires testers. As in volunteers. Get the idea?

You have my deepest commiseration that this problem has been annoying your poor soul for 8 years and you never had anything more constructive to offer than ignorance, whining - and, of course, calling names.

How about leaving the corner squares empty of blocks for the rp purposes, and thats easy for hunters to check. someone could peek around corners from them but bbe easily caught doing so.

PS. I think the staff(volenteers) are doing a great job. As good as the staff in Lotro or Wow and it dont cost us a thing. like NOP said put up or shut up.

As for me volenteering - if i could do more than smash a mouse button i would. Be happy im not if you think there are alot of bugs now.

Aernor Ingloril wrote:As for me volenteering - if i could do more than smash a mouse button i would. Be happy im not if you think there are alot of bugs now.

Actually that's what a tester does. Smash a mouse button and try to exploit/crash new features.

Nop wrote:


Listen up:
- there is no "They". This game is driven by volunteers. We haven't seen you volunteering anything useful. So either put yourself to work and help or shut up

I have done many things for this game in terms of helping, but you know what? I'm sick of bothering because you, nitram or any number of staff members will find ways to flame me further.

- there is no "their jobs". This is our hobby and our spare time. If you don't like the pace or direction of progress, well - either put yourself to work and help or shut up

I love the pace and hate direction of the updates for the game.

- you also seem to suffer from bad memory if you call the 2001 state "technically sound". I remember better since I fixed many of the severe problems back then. So if you had put yourself to work and helped...

Like what? The gameplay was easier. The mechanics were easier. The crafting system was easier. The magic system wasent broken. And you could actually find people to RP with when there were like 5 online.

- your posts show you are utterly clueless in technical matters or blessed with remarkable ignorance. You don't realize the difference between a minor bug fix and a complete rework of a client/server concept even after it has been explained to you.

A complete rework in the form of invisible boulders. Yes, lets torture our map editors with something so very hard! I CANT BELIEVE I SUGGESTED IT, I'M SORRY!

- actually, it is not possible to "implement well-tested features". First you implement them, then they need to be tested. Which requires testers. As in volunteers. Get the idea?

So we have a test server for...?

You have my deepest commiseration that this problem has been annoying your poor soul for 8 years and you never had anything more constructive to offer than ignorance, whining - and, of course, calling names.

It hasen't been bothering me personally. Whats been bothering me is arrogant staff arrangements, poor choices in moderation, really poor judgement in banning and a complete lack of want, from your volunteer staff.

Especially this "We cant fix it, it will take too long" when I've posted a suggestion maybe, three, four, five times that would take all of a days work, and had people agree with me (sans the technical staff) And, of course, that did not take any of my time and was in no way constructive.

Arien would say: "Stay on topic!"

It starts to nerve. So how about PMs, eh?

That was on topic as far as I'm concerned.

Anyway, boulders with spaces for rp oppurtunity, yay/nay

Putting boulders in place is called a 'dirty fix'. Programmers try to avoid it. Just so you know.

And I don't remember any of your suggestions, feel free to send me a list of them in a PM.

Hadrian_Abela wrote:Putting boulders in place is called a 'dirty fix'. Programmers try to avoid it. Just so you know.

In this case, it woulden't be a dirty fix. Because the code would have to be entirely reworked to fix the real problem at hand, thus this would be either a fix, or a solution to a problem that might be fixxed by our fine technical staff volunteers, sometime in the future, way down the road.