Open for business - Turin's metal works and such.

Gandela · Post by **Gandela** » Sat May 04, 2002 10:17 am

Verachtete Francesca,
smacc hat die Unterstützung der meisten Meister Handwerker, Rohstofflieferanten, Händler und allen wichtigen Orden. Auch die Mehrheit der Bevölkerung ist für smacc. Ihr seid lediglich eine Hand voll Händler und Handwerker die das Ende ihrer Geschäftsart, dem Billigverkauf von totalem Schrott an ahnungslose Kunden, bedroht sehen und nun versuchen mit allen möglichen, an den Haaren herbeigezogenden Argumenten und Drohungen, ihr Geschäft zu retten. Wir wollen einen stabielen gerechten Markt, euch geht es lediglich um Profit. Wen von uns wird wohl die Mehrheit der Bevölkerung folgen?

Sand · Post by **Sand** » Sat May 04, 2002 4:08 pm

What is this!?
You threaten a man's life becuase he chooses to make his business with low prices!? SMACC isnt' law,but not murdering out of jealousy is guys!Listen,dont touch Turin,it's his business,he sells as low as he wants,SMACC prices are much higher i know,but SMACC if you mind SMACC's business we will all be fine,and Turin if he just keeps doing his business it will all stay calm and peacefull ok!?

May Malachin be with ye

Caranthir the great · Post by **Caranthir the great** » Sat May 04, 2002 8:56 pm

I am able to play this game also.
Should i start giving full-armor sets to newbies for free?
If prices like that are acceptable, why not then.

Erdrick · Post by **Erdrick** » Sun May 05, 2002 12:38 am

That was to the person who threatened me (not you, Caranthir)

Turin Ironhammer · Post by **Turin Ironhammer** » Sun May 05, 2002 12:38 am

Well Well, I am gone all night and all day travelling and when I get back you people are still fighting. Now if I was gone then what were you fighting about? After all am I not the problem? Francesca I have started work on your order again. And hope to have it done soon.

Astral · Post by **Astral** » Mon May 06, 2002 7:37 pm

Just because I have quit from SMACC now doesn't mean I fully support you. I am not saying that you should sell for SMACC prices and let everyone else ruin you, just try a bit higher. Like make it 50 gold for a firesword. You would still get PLENTY of business, plus you may have some coin in your pocket. You want to fight me, that is your choice. I see no need in further conflict, so unless you require it, it is done. Only I urge you to consider what I have just suggested.

Turin Ironhammer · Post by **Turin Ironhammer** » Mon May 06, 2002 8:49 pm

Astral at this moment in time I am charging 50 gold for a firesword. And the reason you probally do not know this is because when I posted the new price list it got lost in the mess of other post. Post which really have no reason to be here. That is why I ask you not to post here unless it is an order or somthing very important. I hope now that you see that. And breaking of from Smacc was a good idea. And no I do not want there to be any harsh feellings between us. Fighting over things like this normally never ends. So its best not to start. And astral I hope you see my point when I say I have to have low prices. If mine were the same as smacc's or even a little less I would loose a lot of business becaause of it. well I must get back to work. Francesca your order will be done very soon.

Erdrick · Post by **Erdrick** » Tue May 07, 2002 1:17 am

Oh, OK, we will post here some more so you will raise your prices again.

Turin Ironhammer · Post by **Turin Ironhammer** » Tue May 07, 2002 11:41 pm

Francesca keep an eye out for the post that says your order is ready. we have 5000 wind arrows but still lack a few cross bolts. mabye somtime later tonight it will be done.

Blackscales · Post by **Blackscales** » Sat May 11, 2002 5:38 pm

Francescassssssssssss,

Your order is completed and readysssssss. Thankssssssssss you for yoursssssss patientsssss. I am pleasedsssssss that you are gutsiessss enough to buy from so called town destroyerssss and law breakersssssss. All the boltsssss you asked for and all the wind arrowsssss you asked for are done. Meet my co-ort Turinsssssss and he will have it alllllssssssssssss. You are welcomesssssssss, spread the news about out businesesssss.

Sincereliesss,
Blackscales and Turinss

Morgaine Le Fay · Post by **Morgaine Le Fay** » Sun May 12, 2002 6:35 am

To Beowulf

it is not the question who will put the village afire - it sure won´t be that blacksmith Erdrick - but what he was trying to tell you is - when you get everything for free you never know it´s value - I had been blacksmithing a long time until I could make my own plate armour of which I am proud - I have learned the values and ways in Illarion - but if you give away everything for free... well, why should a newbie try to be a real part of Illarion? most people think that the goal they have to achieve is to become the best and that will be how they will handle Illarion... fighting others, maybe killing them... setting the village afire... maybe not

you have to make those people come back and enjoy Illarion and you surely can´t do that by giving everything for free - because as I said - if something is for free you neve learn its true value...

and this other blacksmith Turin Ironhammer that wants to sell everything way too low... he better be digging for gems and sell them to the shop if he is after money... they are easier to get than armour can be smithed.

Turin Ironhammer · Post by **Turin Ironhammer** » Wed May 22, 2002 10:36 pm

Francesca your order is ready. Please set a date and time that I might meet with you.

Astral · Post by **Astral** » Wed May 22, 2002 10:46 pm

If you are willing, I will buy 1000 arrows from you.

Turin Ironhammer · Post by **Turin Ironhammer** » Thu May 23, 2002 3:23 am

Wind arrows or normal arrows. And yes i would be glad to. But what might you be planning to do with these arrows. Just making sure I dont sell to killers. #me grins

Dream · Post by **Dream** » Thu May 23, 2002 5:30 am

anyone who works hard enough at just blacksmithing can make there own knight armor and stuff in 2 days so whats the differance? I did

Turin Ironhammer · Post by **Turin Ironhammer** » Thu May 23, 2002 5:14 pm

Yes that is true dream but what if you want to work on carpentry and not smithing. Then you might need to buy somthing.

Astral · Post by **Astral** » Thu May 23, 2002 7:01 pm

Just normal arrows. And no, I dont plan on using them to murder anyone

Khanja · Post by **Khanja** » Thu May 23, 2002 7:20 pm

I don't mean to offend anyone, and I will try not to, but . . . who the heck gave SMACC the authourity to dictate what prices people have to pay for products. I think it is good to see people selling at better prices than SMACC. If people want to sell at cheaper prices SMACC should just keep their noses out of it, it bugs me when I try selling something and then some SMACC people come along and say "You can't sell at that price, that's a stupid price" etc. and more so, if I want to give something away for free cos I dont need it, that's my choice. So people from SMACC, I dunno if its just the newbs thinking their tough going round shouting about SMACC trying to dictate everyone's prices but just leave the rest of us alone.

Astral · Post by **Astral** » Fri May 24, 2002 2:43 am

I believe that there should be some standards, but SMACC was simply outrageous. They wanted us to sell plate mail for 500+ gold. Who'll buy it at that price? Maybe there should be some compromise in the middle, but their demands were horrid.

Turin Ironhammer · Post by **Turin Ironhammer** » Sun May 26, 2002 1:24 am

Astral your order is ready and so is yours Francesca. I would also like to say that if you dont pick up your order after it has been done for about a month.... well I might just sell to some one else. That is just a word of warnning. And if you don't like what SMACC is doing don't talk about it here. I don't support them but I don't like the mess all the papers about them make. So go put it where SMACC will see it. After all they boycot people like me. So they won't see it here. hehe

Thanks for your time and business

Likwid Air · Post by **Likwid Air** » Mon May 27, 2002 10:47 am

What do snow flake amulets do?

(Edited by Likwid Air at 11:33 am on May 27, 2002)

(Edited by Likwid Air at 11:36 am on May 27, 2002)

Turin Ironhammer · Post by **Turin Ironhammer** » Wed May 29, 2002 11:15 pm

snow flake amuletts increase your defence some what. Which is why I sell them as part of a set of armor. Astral your arrows are ready. Tell me a time when you will be around town so I can give them to you.

I would now like to show a revised list of prices.

Fire swords 50g
2 hand sword 100g
Plate armor 50g
Knight helmet 50g
Knight shield 50g
Knight gloves 50g
Knight boots 50g
Snow flake Amulett 50g

Buy a full set of armor and get 50g of the price. Full set includes all of the ARMOR listed
above. Not weapons. Also I can make any thing with metals but it will be 50g for any thing
not on the list (except tools) this is because I don't keep any things but what is on the
list in stock.

arrows 2g a piece unless 200 or more ordered then 1g each(Arrows must have order
place for them here)
Cross bolts same as arrows
Bow 15g
cross bow 20g
Wind arrows 3g each unless 200 more then 2g(must place order)
Top battle staff 50g
Wands 100g

Mana potions 10g each
Green healing potions 10g each(must place order for all potions)
(I no longer carry healing potions besides strong healing)
any smacc members who have a problem with this can leave town for all I care.
Perhaps it's time that we for a group that protects the right that people are allowed to
chose the prices they sell at.

Likwid Air · Post by **Likwid Air** » Thu May 30, 2002 3:12 am

These prices are okay, but i personally feel that they should be a little higher.

I am not aiming to offend anyone so don't bother to object to my statement .