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martin wrote: he even sued microsoft for the name "explorer" and seems to have made a rather large amount of money (they paid him good money, as it seems, however he doesn't say how much).

Just because Microsoft paid out doesn't mean he had a chance in court. Often it's the case that going to court is more expensive than just greasing some palms. Not to mention that when people settle out of court we, the public, have no idea what went on in those backroom meetings.

But that is not enough!

We make no money with this page, and so no money with the pictures. Copyright doesn't affect us, since it is no commercial use! We have the pictures because we like them, and like the artists work who set them online. we honour the artist with using his pictures for our chars.

And as long as we earn no money with it, it is no break of the copyright. damn, we even make advertising for the artist with using the pictures. that is even good for him!

(s)he is right.

Not in any legal sense, she's not.

Because the artist has a right to charge people for the use of their work, they can sue on the basis that you're using it for free.

Even if there is no legal standing, its best just to take precautions until this is settle. We don't want to bankrupt another human being.

And what is with the pictures in the online profile? will those go aswell?

I asked that, and it has not been answered. I would assume so, though.

Hah! Hahaha! Hah! I was prepared for such an eventuality!

Especially for the onlinelist, I assume.

Here you only have small forum avatars. But there we have the full pictures. So yes. If I would be an artist who cares about those things, I wouldn't mind a forum avatar at all. But the whole in the online list.. uhm.

But you cant download from the online list. you cant copy the picture you see when clicking onto the name in the list.

Samantha Meryadeles wrote:But you cant download from the online list. you cant copy the picture you see when clicking onto the name in the list.

Well, for the profile, you just got to print screen it, isnt a problem to me for copying it.

Samantha Meryadeles wrote:But you cant download from the online list. you cant copy the picture you see when clicking onto the name in the list.

Right click, save target as.

AlexRose12345678910 wrote:

Samantha Meryadeles wrote:But you cant download from the online list. you cant copy the picture you see when clicking onto the name in the list.

Right click, save target as.

no.. right click, save picture

Lennier wrote:hrmm, gute frage.. Wie stehts denn um deinen eigenen Ava, Alatar?

In der Tat

Fällt schwer sich nach vielen Jahren davon zu trennen ... martin war da cleverer

Right click, save target as.

Doesn't work, not with the full size picture after clicking on the thumbnail.

Well, I suggest we have Meriel work her ass of on avatars for all of us

I ask her since many month for an avatar. That is useless

I'm keeping my avatar.

Stupid ignorant pigs can bitch at me themselves if they are so pridefull of their orc picture. I don't even know where this came from.

I believe that one came up in voting for the new Kl'urk picture.
"To smash or not to smash."
Or was it another?

Samantha Meryadeles wrote:But you cant download from the online list. you cant copy the picture you see when clicking onto the name in the list.

That has nothing to do with where the violation is. The violation is in that you are using something that belongs to someone else.

Actually in all honesty to think some artist is going to take all of us to court is ludicrous, common sense would tell you that most people would never even find this forum.

I think they are worried about the days that illarion gets big.

I happen to like your new avatar.

Thanks I was going to just make it just two eyes and the tounge sticking out , but I was really board when I made it.

Samantha Meryadeles wrote:I ask her since many month for an avatar. That is useless

Merial is not a slave, remember you wouldnt want to sit around all day making avatars for people.

Ku 'Agor wrote:I'm keeping my avatar.

Stupid ignorant pigs can bitch at me themselves if they are so pridefull of their orc picture. I don't even know where this came from.

ok if you want to carry the risk to pay more than 1000 € if someone thinks to punish us because of copyrights. i dont like the deaktivation two. But currently the illarion EV risks his ass for your ignorance and this risk is to large.
You can say "i dont change mine" but you carry no risk. The whole Illarion project can come to an end if we get sued.

Cassandra Fjurin wrote:

Ku 'Agor wrote:I'm keeping my avatar.

Stupid ignorant pigs can bitch at me themselves if they are so pridefull of their orc picture. I don't even know where this came from.

ok if you want to carry the risk to pay more than 1000 € if someone thinks to punish us because of copyrights. i dont like the deaktivation two. But currently the illarion EV risks his ass for your ignorance and this risk is to large.
You can say "i dont change mine" but you carry no risk. The whole Illarion project can come to an end if we get sued.

I cant believe this is an issue. Are people really sueing because of avatars? -.-'

This world is a twisted and gnarled place.

but that is the only reason why alatar wants to deactivate the avatars. We have to wait until the legal position is cleared out.

ku,

Are people really sueing because of avatars?

yes, in germany they do.
there are a lot of lawyers, who specialized on this easy way to make money.

but here its not like in the use where we can sue cigarette concerns because we get cancer