Forum Avatars / Forum-Avatare

Aegohl · Post by **Aegohl** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 5:23 pm

martin wrote: he even sued microsoft for the name "explorer" and seems to have made a rather large amount of money (they paid him good money, as it seems, however he doesn't say how much).

Just because Microsoft paid out doesn't mean he had a chance in court. Often it's the case that going to court is more expensive than just greasing some palms. Not to mention that when people settle out of court we, the public, have no idea what went on in those backroom meetings.

Samantha Meryadeles · Post by **Samantha Meryadeles** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 5:23 pm

But that is not enough!

We make no money with this page, and so no money with the pictures. Copyright doesn't affect us, since it is no commercial use! We have the pictures because we like them, and like the artists work who set them online. we honour the artist with using his pictures for our chars.

And as long as we earn no money with it, it is no break of the copyright. damn, we even make advertising for the artist with using the pictures. that is even good for him!

Caldrion Sternenglanz · Sat Sep 23, 2006 5:25 pm

(s)he is right.

Aegohl · Post by **Aegohl** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 5:33 pm

Not in any legal sense, she's not.

Because the artist has a right to charge people for the use of their work, they can sue on the basis that you're using it for free.

Cliu Beothach · Post by **Cliu Beothach** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 7:07 pm

Even if there is no legal standing, its best just to take precautions until this is settle. We don't want to bankrupt another human being.

Samantha Meryadeles · Post by **Samantha Meryadeles** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 7:08 pm

And what is with the pictures in the online profile? will those go aswell?

Cliu Beothach · Post by **Cliu Beothach** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 7:14 pm

I asked that, and it has not been answered. I would assume so, though.

Korwin · Post by **Korwin** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 7:20 pm

Hah! Hahaha! Hah! I was prepared for such an eventuality!

Meriel Pelith · Post by **Meriel Pelith** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 8:39 pm

Especially for the onlinelist, I assume.

Here you only have small forum avatars. But there we have the full pictures. So yes. If I would be an artist who cares about those things, I wouldn't mind a forum avatar at all. But the whole in the online list.. uhm.

Samantha Meryadeles · Post by **Samantha Meryadeles** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 8:49 pm

But you cant download from the online list. you cant copy the picture you see when clicking onto the name in the list.

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 8:57 pm

Samantha Meryadeles wrote:But you cant download from the online list. you cant copy the picture you see when clicking onto the name in the list.

Well, for the profile, you just got to print screen it, isnt a problem to me for copying it.

AlexRose · Post by **AlexRose** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 9:08 pm

Samantha Meryadeles wrote:But you cant download from the online list. you cant copy the picture you see when clicking onto the name in the list.

Right click, save target as.

Avalyon el'Hattarr · Post by **Avalyon el'Hattarr** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 9:15 pm

AlexRose12345678910 wrote:
Samantha Meryadeles wrote:But you cant download from the online list. you cant copy the picture you see when clicking onto the name in the list.
Right click, save target as.

no.. right click, save picture

Alatar · Post by **Alatar** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 9:16 pm

Lennier wrote:hrmm, gute frage.. Wie stehts denn um deinen eigenen Ava, Alatar?

In der Tat

Fällt schwer sich nach vielen Jahren davon zu trennen ... martin war da cleverer

Samantha Meryadeles · Post by **Samantha Meryadeles** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 9:17 pm

Right click, save target as.

Doesn't work, not with the full size picture after clicking on the thumbnail.

Kevin Lightdot · Post by **Kevin Lightdot** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 9:18 pm

Well, I suggest we have Meriel work her ass of on avatars for all of us

Samantha Meryadeles · Post by **Samantha Meryadeles** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 9:39 pm

I ask her since many month for an avatar. That is useless

Ku 'Agor · Post by **Ku 'Agor** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 9:57 pm

I'm keeping my avatar.

Stupid ignorant pigs can bitch at me themselves if they are so pridefull of their orc picture. I don't even know where this came from.

Kevin Lightdot · Post by **Kevin Lightdot** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 10:03 pm

I believe that one came up in voting for the new Kl'urk picture.
"To smash or not to smash."
Or was it another?

Aegohl · Post by **Aegohl** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 10:06 pm

Samantha Meryadeles wrote:But you cant download from the online list. you cant copy the picture you see when clicking onto the name in the list.

That has nothing to do with where the violation is. The violation is in that you are using something that belongs to someone else.

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 5:38 am

Actually in all honesty to think some artist is going to take all of us to court is ludicrous, common sense would tell you that most people would never even find this forum.

Hu'greu · Post by **Hu'greu** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 5:41 am

I think they are worried about the days that illarion gets big.

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 5:42 am

I happen to like your new avatar.

Hu'greu · Post by **Hu'greu** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 5:44 am

Thanks I was going to just make it just two eyes and the tounge sticking out , but I was really board when I made it.

Hu'greu · Post by **Hu'greu** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 5:45 am

Samantha Meryadeles wrote:I ask her since many month for an avatar. That is useless

Merial is not a slave, remember you wouldnt want to sit around all day making avatars for people.

Cassandra Fjurin · Post by **Cassandra Fjurin** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 9:59 am

Ku 'Agor wrote:I'm keeping my avatar.

Stupid ignorant pigs can bitch at me themselves if they are so pridefull of their orc picture. I don't even know where this came from.

ok if you want to carry the risk to pay more than 1000 € if someone thinks to punish us because of copyrights. i dont like the deaktivation two. But currently the illarion EV risks his ass for your ignorance and this risk is to large.
You can say "i dont change mine" but you carry no risk. The whole Illarion project can come to an end if we get sued.

Ku 'Agor · Post by **Ku 'Agor** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 10:07 am

Cassandra Fjurin wrote:
Ku 'Agor wrote:I'm keeping my avatar.

Stupid ignorant pigs can bitch at me themselves if they are so pridefull of their orc picture. I don't even know where this came from.
ok if you want to carry the risk to pay more than 1000 € if someone thinks to punish us because of copyrights. i dont like the deaktivation two. But currently the illarion EV risks his ass for your ignorance and this risk is to large.
You can say "i dont change mine" but you carry no risk. The whole Illarion project can come to an end if we get sued.

I cant believe this is an issue. Are people really sueing because of avatars? -.-'

This world is a twisted and gnarled place.

Cassandra Fjurin · Post by **Cassandra Fjurin** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 10:15 am

but that is the only reason why alatar wants to deactivate the avatars. We have to wait until the legal position is cleared out.

Korm Kormsen · Post by **Korm Kormsen** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 10:20 am

ku,

Are people really sueing because of avatars?

yes, in germany they do.
there are a lot of lawyers, who specialized on this easy way to make money.

Cassandra Fjurin · Post by **Cassandra Fjurin** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 10:38 am

but here its not like in the use where we can sue cigarette concerns because we get cancer