Become evil mage / Ein böser Magier werden

Nalzaxx · Post by **Nalzaxx** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:14 pm

Samantha Meryadeles wrote:Not every sense of realism brings game fun or is good for the game. We all should not forget that.

Having an evil lobby adds excitement and enjoyment to the game.

Pwning it in three seconds flat does not.

Mmkay.

Kevin Lightdot · Post by **Kevin Lightdot** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:34 pm

Samantha Meryadeles wrote:Sadly, but Donal is 100 % right. He said it very well, and i agree...what frightens me more than anything else .

It was just like that. And thats what makes many others of us so frustrated about the current ig state. Bevause now we who paly their roles fitting to the background story and common senses are the bad and evil ones, and get pushed around. So currently those doing common sense roleplay based on the backgroundstory gets discriminated ig

Ever thing that they might be trying to convince people that they arn't evil, that the things written about Bjolmur are untrue?
Its called "Using your brain." Aslong as they dont pose a threat, people like Stephen see no need to slay them, therefore giving them plenty of time to bolster their forces.

And about the whole part of wannabe heroes rushing to the temple and markous showing up... I see a perfectly good reason for it.
If your home or temple would be in danger, wouldn't you do everything to remove that threat.

You shouldn't look at it as if evil is non-humanoid, their just another party of people. And without them, the game would be boring for all the fighter characters.
If you just want to pwn, pwn, pwn all day long i suggest you go pick on some pigs.

And the whole gods thingie, its way overrated in your mind as i see it.
Many people wouldn't die for their beliefs, only few.
Not everyone has to serve a god completely and follow them 100% percent. It may not be honorable but it's life, alot of things may seem unfair to some.

If you decided to play an evil char, wouldn't you want to have him live for more than a week?
Its a game, everyone in it is supposed to gave fun.
Breaking a few 'rules' doesn't matter if it makes it more fun for almost everyone.

And if your looking to win the arguement... Then ok, you win... But the thoughts of a few people aren't going to change the minds of the GM's.

Why should good always have to prevail?
Why can't evil win for once?
Why can't there be some time of opression?

Still the main problem remains: There are to many good guys and not enough bad guys.

To many of those pure good guys who will die for their beliefs and then just get clouded and run back into battle as soon as they have their hitpoints back.

When someone has been disabled from battle, they should stay like that.

And generaly I think the players of evil guys are more fair in things like that, since they generaly after getting clouded dissapear for a while and don't run right back into battle.

Cliu Beothach · Post by **Cliu Beothach** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:37 pm

So, people complain about the island being full of muscle bound wannabe heroes and state that they act too smart. Then a cult to Bjolmur comes along and tries to do what Bjolmur does best, decieve. The majority of the island (the heroes) are deceived because they are dumb?

It seems for once, things are actually going the way people wanted them to, but still complaints are made?

Quinasa · Post by **Quinasa** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:38 pm

There will always, ALWAYS be complaints. Nothing will ever go the way people want them too, because no one can be happy unless there is something to complain about. Are we done here?

Kevin Lightdot · Post by **Kevin Lightdot** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:57 pm

I hope so, I'm gettting a bit tired...

*Nets Quinny*

Yay! My verry own pet mod!

Samantha Meryadeles · Post by **Samantha Meryadeles** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:21 pm

And generaly I think the players of evil guys are more fair in things like that, since they generaly after getting clouded dissapear for a while and don't run right back into battle.

*coughs* reminds me of the three orcs of the temple samantha clouded who right after the cross visit sat than in the tavern and drunk beer and started than a battle against the guards.

Retlak · Post by **Retlak** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 9:20 pm

Maybe it was a life long goal, drink in the middle of a war.

Samantha Meryadeles · Post by **Samantha Meryadeles** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 9:25 pm

Haven't you done that already with Kl'urk in the lich war? While the town was conquered by the lichs and demon skeletons Kl'urk and other orcs celebrated and drunk at the tavern. than they had a barfight with three dozen demon skeletons and give Dravish a greetings and went than away

Misjbar · Post by **Misjbar** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 9:30 pm

I am sorry, but is Misjilah doing a bad job at deceiving and keeping the people that do know about her schemes happy so they won't tell on? If so, please do tell me.

Retlak · Post by **Retlak** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 9:30 pm

@ Samantha

Indeed! I will never forget that time, i was a n00bbb back then and i remember thinking Dravish was a npc

i almost asked him to list wares ^^

Alkuurg · Post by **Alkuurg** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 9:33 pm

You still do that to player characters...

Either way, if you roleplay long enough something will turn up.

Kevin Lightdot · Post by **Kevin Lightdot** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:02 pm

Samantha Meryadeles wrote:
And generaly I think the players of evil guys are more fair in things like that, since they generaly after getting clouded dissapear for a while and don't run right back into battle.
*coughs* reminds me of the three orcs of the temple samantha clouded who right after the cross visit sat than in the tavern and drunk beer and started than a battle against the guards.

Generaly, not always.

Quinasa · Post by **Quinasa** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:17 pm

Kevin Lightdot wrote:I hope so, I'm gettting a bit tired...

*Nets Quinny*

Yay! My verry own pet mod!

Yeah, somehow I DON'T think so.

Kevin Lightdot · Post by **Kevin Lightdot** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:21 pm

Why not?
I'll feed you, groom you and cuddle with you!

Jon Childs · Post by **Jon Childs** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:22 pm

I'd give you a life time supply of cookies and love.

Love from the next door neighbours cat....

Dónal Mason · Post by **Dónal Mason** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:36 pm

I don't think she wants to be anywhere near you two.

And you're kinda creepy.

Jon Childs · Post by **Jon Childs** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:39 pm

Fine...But cookie jars hurt...and cats scratch.

Bloodhearte · Post by **Bloodhearte** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:06 pm

Dónal Mason wrote:"Hi, we follow an evil creature of lies and corruption. It's ok, we're not gonna hurt you! Yeah, we're TOTALLY telling the truth. Here's some cool gifts. Friends now, kay?"

That sums up what the temple has done. As you can see, it's pretty ridiculous.

Not really. Bribery is an age-old crime.

Retlak · Post by **Retlak** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:50 pm

Stupid question: How are we meant to destroy the temple and stop the evil when boosted chars protect it and beat up players?
Answer: Its not a quest, its not meant to be destroyed. So do not bother. just to sum that up.

Kevin Lightdot · Post by **Kevin Lightdot** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:51 pm

That's the basic idea i guess, it is to stay for now.

Samantha Meryadeles · Post by **Samantha Meryadeles** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 6:31 pm

Stupid question: How are we meant to destroy the temple and stop the evil when boosted chars protect it and beat up players?
Answer: Its not a quest, its not meant to be destroyed. So do not bother. just to sum that up.

And thats why we shall ignore proper and background fitting roleplay, show bad roleplay, and simply ignore it

Kevin Lightdot · Post by **Kevin Lightdot** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 7:03 pm

If you want a decent story rules will sometimes have to be broken.

Retlak · Post by **Retlak** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:57 pm

And thats why we shall ignore proper and background fitting roleplay, show bad roleplay, and simply ignore it

Fitting background rp: it has this, its just that the non members were not exactly noticing (they were not around anyway) to get insight.

Bad roleplay: bad about how the members currently act? - its all a dark plan.
bad about how the temple's doings inside? - it has great rp, its just that non members are obviously not around to see anything.
bad roleplay with how the temple is over protected? - its like Retlak attacking the magic academy, he will be blasted by many powerfull mages and not stand a single chance. lets say its fair.

Ignore it: Ignore what?

Markous · Post by **Markous** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:13 am

I'm not doing the Temple anymore for around 4 weeks now (someone else continued the quest since then), and have never done it all alone. The quest group of Illarion is doing it.

Concerning your quote:

Samantha Meryadeles wrote:And Athian, it is GM support. Markous supports them. And he would beat up every playeraction with gm chars just to hold the temple alive.

Never laughed that hard the last few weeks. I'm glad I don't do this anymore, but it's funny to see how people still bash me as the villain, even if I'm not involved.

Samantha Meryadeles · Post by **Samantha Meryadeles** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 8:13 am

Bad roleplay: bad about how the members currently act? - its all a dark plan.

If you mean walking around in public and claiming being a bjolmur whorshipper, yes. But more that other peoples doesnt care, and welcome them. and than still claim to play a good char.

bad about how the temple's doings inside? - it has great rp, its just that non members are obviously not around to see anything.

Sont know about the inner temple roleplay. but i know that its poor how the undeads walk around as if nothing is going on

bad roleplay with how the temple is over protected? - its like Retlak attacking the magic academy, he will be blasted by many powerfull mages and not stand a single chance. lets say its fair.

Just that this mages would be playerchars using their chars trained and nonpushed skills. And not a hoard of gm summoned monsters and pushed chars bashing us.

Kevin Lightdot · Post by **Kevin Lightdot** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:09 am

I'm withdrawing from this arguement, you keep on repeating the same answers all the time Galim.
And actualy, i think their just one sided simple minded rattlings.

Nalzaxx · Post by **Nalzaxx** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:30 pm

^^ I love this guy.

Kevin Lightdot · Post by **Kevin Lightdot** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:51 pm

Can i hide under your blanket Nalzaxx? I have a feeling i might need some protection from angry mages...

Nalzaxx · Post by **Nalzaxx** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:41 pm

Anytime Kevin

#me holds up the flame proof blanket

Kevin Lightdot · Post by **Kevin Lightdot** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:47 pm

*Jumps under*

Mhh... I fergot something...
Cassy!? Get over here!