Jailing

Dusk · Post by **Dusk** » Sat May 13, 2006 3:47 am

I'm sorry Arameh, Do tell me where i played my char above his stats ever. He smooth talks, Not does flippy kicks to the chin and moves like lightning. He has a high agility, dex, and Perception. But I do not play him like a god. I play him like any other common theif. Sure there are some who have a napolean complex, and can't loose. Devrah and Sebastian got into a fight, and Devrah won. As would you if you fought Sebastian, RP or Cntrl + Click. But where sebastian excels is in smooth talking. All other theives i have met (Cris being one of about 5) Do the exact same, Play to their stats. You don't realise that it is much more difficult to play a villian character, since a hero hears a key word and flips out. We have to RP twice as hard to not get this blaming bullshit because you want to capture every thief you come encounter with.

Life's tough, Get a helmet you noob.

falco1029 · Post by **falco1029** » Sat May 13, 2006 3:53 am

yeah seriously. When palying a thief, its everyone against you (and possibly other thieves if you find some that you get along with), and 2 out of 3 people have xray eyes or mind reading powers it would seem.

Dusk · Post by **Dusk** » Sat May 13, 2006 3:53 am

Give them some credit, i would say about 1 out of 3

Poots · Post by **Poots** » Sat May 13, 2006 3:55 am

if your talking about my hobbit, he has been a thief for some time, and he has 20 perception. I don't see how he could miss your #me looks at their belt, and only a true thief could see that.

falco1029 · Post by **falco1029** » Sat May 13, 2006 3:59 am

Dusk wrote:Give them some credit, i would say about 1 out of 3

maybe 2 oyt of 5...

And poots, i didnt mean you in particular, dont worry. Cris had a feeling allen was or had been some sort of lawbreaker when he didnt rat cris out.

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Sun May 14, 2006 7:20 pm

Speaking as a 3rd person:

If you're in jail; what are you going to do? Stay there and do NOTHING? Don't log in at all?

If there was something interesting to do (talking or such) more people would stay in there...

Illarion is there to HAVE FUN.. don't forget that...

Poots · Post by **Poots** » Sun May 14, 2006 7:37 pm

pssh, thats what I did. also keep in mind, Jail is a punishment, it's not meant to be like an expansion to the seahorse inn. what do you want, someone games in there?

falco1029 · Post by **falco1029** » Sun May 14, 2006 7:38 pm

They need to make it bigger and complex, so if a thief wants to break out, there can at least be soem nice rp involved in it. of course, this would mean contacting a guard out of game to arrange when theyd try. But tahtd be neat

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Sun May 14, 2006 7:40 pm

Dusk wrote:I'm sorry Arameh, Do tell me where i played my char above his stats ever. He smooth talks, Not does flippy kicks to the chin and moves like lightning. He has a high agility, dex, and Perception. But I do not play him like a god. I play him like any other common theif. Sure there are some who have a napolean complex, and can't loose. Devrah and Sebastian got into a fight, and Devrah won. As would you if you fought Sebastian, RP or Cntrl + Click. But where sebastian excels is in smooth talking. All other theives i have met (Cris being one of about 5) Do the exact same, Play to their stats. You don't realise that it is much more difficult to play a villian character, since a hero hears a key word and flips out. We have to RP twice as hard to not get this blaming bullshit because you want to capture every thief you come encounter with.

Life's tough, Get a helmet you noob.

Who said I was talking about your characters? You seem to feel aimed at

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Sun May 14, 2006 7:43 pm

Poots wrote:pssh, thats what I did. also keep in mind, Jail is a punishment, it's not meant to be like an expansion to the seahorse inn. what do you want, someone games in there?

Punishment for your CHAR... Not for the player who spends a few hours doing nothing....

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Sun May 14, 2006 7:44 pm

Do you know what you do then? you play another character, I found the miraculous solution!!

Poots · Post by **Poots** » Sun May 14, 2006 7:47 pm

wow....I say again...wow.

how about, getting off Illarion for an hour or so? "my guys locked up, I'm forced to stare at my screen for the next three days!!!"

you act as though you are the character! like Aremeh said, if your soooo obssesed about this, get a new character.

Gwendolin Cad'ell · Post by **Gwendolin Cad'ell** » Sun May 28, 2006 8:35 am

Markous wrote:Break out, if you wish to do this, but do not do it too often. No one can be forced to stay Ingame for hours and hours in a boring prison. Also, think about the online costs, some people have.

I will close this topic.

Good that there is still this one.

Let me try to show up the problem I can see there.

Jailing is useless now. Okay. In the end that will turn out even more bad for the players of villains. Because now, they will get simply 'pked'.
The guard/knights/whatever will not just tolerate that the outlaws walk into town like they feel to. They will stick to their char concept too.

So what? They can't ban them - because they walk into town frequently nevertheless. They can't jail them - because there are no jailingkeys and players don't appreciate to have their chars locked away.
They can just ctrl+click them.
Well, have fun.

PS: Of course there is still the possibility of GMs giving the villains items and skills, so they can continue walking freely into town, without having to fear that they get thrown out by the guards or the knights. How could I forget.

Post by **Nitram** » Sun May 28, 2006 10:18 am

Gwendolin Cad'ell wrote:because there are no jailingkeys

I remember there are jailing keys...
If they don't work or if they are lost --> pm to me

Gwendolin Cad'ell wrote:PS: Of course there is still the possibility of GMs giving the villains items and skills, so they can continue walking freely into town, without having to fear that they get thrown out by the guards or the knights. How could I forget.

I don't think it is the target of GMs to push up any random villain.
Its sadly that you really think this. Maybe sometimes it happens that even a villain get a small push. But it is not only them, ever forget this. The players of the "good" chars, who moan about this, are normaly the players of the most pushed "good" chars.
Keep that in mind.

Nitram

Gort Greegog · Post by **Gort Greegog** » Sun May 28, 2006 3:34 pm

Gwendolin Cad'ell wrote:
Markous wrote:Break out, if you wish to do this, but do not do it too often. No one can be forced to stay Ingame for hours and hours in a boring prison. Also, think about the online costs, some people have.

I will close this topic.
Good that there is still this one.

Let me try to show up the problem I can see there.

Jailing is useless now. Okay. In the end that will turn out even more bad for the players of villains. Because now, they will get simply 'pked'.
The guard/knights/whatever will not just tolerate that the outlaws walk into town like they feel to. They will stick to their char concept too.

So what? They can't ban them - because they walk into town frequently nevertheless. They can't jail them - because there are no jailingkeys and players don't appreciate to have their chars locked away.
They can just ctrl+click them.
Well, have fun.

PS: Of course there is still the possibility of GMs giving the villains items and skills, so they can continue walking freely into town, without having to fear that they get thrown out by the guards or the knights. How could I forget.

You are somewhat right about the pking thing. Thoe playing a char with some skill, I'd have to say odds are they won't pk you unless theres three of them or your very weak. Hell, odds are they won't jail you. I try to let guards have a upperhand so it's more fun. I'm not shur if they enjoyed it, but I like my battles with Taylor and Revlen. Shur I lost, but got to have a nice series of battles with the pair. And I could have targeted Taylor, made him run, then pick off revlen in about 4 min, but would that be fun? No, just like putting a char in jail isent, it is better to just have MORE Rp and less jailing.

I admit I have looked at the online list and said hmm theres 4 guards on/people that will help them, I think I'll visit. I will admit to NEVER looking at the list and saying theres no guards I think I'll go in and....err, buy a potion, maybe a book to Varshikar. Wait why do they care if I'm in town when no one is there?.....