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Ummmmm.... (OOC) That's not what I find.  My parry does affect the damage I take, not only when I am hit...

Why isn't it practical?  It would have narrowed it down conclusively.  Tossing a throwing star at people and them "dropping" doesn't necissarily prove they were holding a bow...

What is the point of this investigation if you're not going to convict someone in the end?

the paralise idae never crossed my mind i just wanted to kill the killer
and yes i am a devoted mage

Dyluck, his magic is quite strong...

Although sean, i do want a re match...

and another thing if were the killer why would i be the first to take all of the newcomers to the libary and seal them AND them kill myself to see if there ok?

Yes, why would sean sacrifice his own skills to kill newbies?

and i can back up my false reactions to
Rune Scape is a name i personaly do not like event ho he did die my reactions were as my char not as myself that is why my reaction to HIM dieing were false

@Lord Chaos: About your experiment. Do youu think the killer is just going to stand there and continuing firing arrows while you're paralyzing people one by one and just wait for you to paralyze him? And by the time you've noticed that someone was getting hit, the killer would've already finished off his victim before you can paralyze even one person.

-quote from sean "yes i am a devoted mage". I find that hard to believe from someone who's been using a sword for so long and was practicing archery only a while before the murders took place.

Like I said! None of this actually PROVES anything, it just increases the LIKELIHOOD of him being the murdurer.


-@Lord Chaos: Because there is not enough proof to actually convict anyone. If you want to convict someone then YOU show me the proof. You are one of the people who also think sean is the prime suspect but without many reasons and evidence as I have, so I don't see why you're so critical.

ooc:(the murderer doesn't need to have a motive, he is most likely just pking as far as i'm concerned. I'm just treating this rpg like that's all.)

@sean: I don't understand this sentence: "and another thing if were the killer why would i be the first to take all of the newcomers to the libary and seal them AND them kill myself to see if there ok? "

i am used to speakin objiwa dyluck it is hard for me to understand u to
all of my evidence why I DID NOT DO IT
1) i was told i has tooo much to drink b4 dyluck cameinto the bar the other day. and so i was pissed up when i attacked him (supposedly) not to mention that i have herd about how he tried to push me and succeded into the vase then tried to use it as a lavatory so we were both a lil temperemental.
2) Dyluck succesfully killed me around 3times that night so any skills i have reciaved were lost
3) i already said why i was killed with one hit here all ALL of the reasons
1) i were a wand so i have about the same DEF as an archer would
2) the recent killing of me weakend my parry so i could not dodge so bieing able to paralise some one (my second strongest spell) would be my only way to keep myself alive
3) i only wore leather armour that day witch takes down my DEF even more
Reasons why i can not be the killer
1) I was the first to take action and tell all newcomers to go to the library
2) i then sealed the newcomers into the library with 10ice fields
3) I rushed in among others to make sure the ppl in the libary were ok
4) that was the 2time i has died that day
5) during EXP 2 i was a cloud when rune scape got killed
6) i was always near the lizards almost all of the time
and
7) exactly what Lord Chaos i belive said "why would sean do it after his succesfull meeting with the guild leaders?"

i have more but i think u should look over this
@Roke u cannot aresst someone in fact i belive u herd the meeting and everyone vote AGAINST a police system yet

now onto my list of suspects in order
Dyluck
Sssssla
Seth

Dyluck always logged out before a murder and logged back in after knowing what exactly happend
eg he logged back in and immiedatly said a message about the line up on the wall thing but he was not on initialy
During the time that dyluck logged out only moments later another logged on the murder happend that person logged out and the appeard Dyluck, Dyluck could have preplanned the attack to frame anyone who fell into a trap set by him
not to mention the recent posts by Dyluck seem to be very desperate since he keeps saying there is no solid proof i am guilty every post now, A murderer would try to keep clarififieing that to clear his name from a list in a last ditch to drop it before someone finds his true motives
Dyluck could very well be framing me b/c of our past incidents thereby treing to return me to the shadows once more and now is trieing to use his "opinions" against me so that all of the people will say "dyluck said your a murderer" which is what happend and i lost even more skills yesterday b/c of his opinions
and oh ya
I AM NOT SAYING DYLUCK IS GUILTY JUST THAT HE IS A PRIME SUSPECT



thanks

You were planning to have a police force?  It was just a joke anyway.  There probably won't be a trial because it is nearly impossible to gather evidence unless you confessed that you were the killer.  ( I am not saying that you were the murderer) Thank You

1. Who believes that Sean was really drunk instead of using it as an excuse to yell, hept kel me, and shoot over 250 arrows at me?

2. Who believes that Sean wore a wand because he really thought that he would be able to better defend himself by paralyzing the archer faster than the archer can kill him?

-Now lets see, Sean says that he was the person to tell everybody to go to the library AND he sealed all the exits which prevents anyone from escaping from the archer, and that is supposed to make him less suspicious? hmmmm....baffles the mind doesn't it?

-ooc: hehe now the best part: What Sean means to say is that everytime I logged out and then I logged back in and saw someone dead, I would say
"Did this person die before or after I logged back in?"
The reason I said this is to see if the murderer had tried to frame me by killing someone right after I logged in.
That would help me narrow down the suspects because most of the people that have been around long enough know that almost everyone does not believe I would be the killer, so it would be useless to try and frame me.
Meaning that only a newbie or someone who probably hates me would be stupid enough to think it would be successful to frame me. Hmm I wonder who that person might be now?

-right from the beginning i have always said that "sean is the most likely to be the murderer in  my opinion" and i have never once said "i have proven that sean is the murderer". I tried to clarify this point so people would stop killing you but you say its because i want to clear MY name? Fine don't drop this topic then.

-Now another piece of evidence: a magical image of Sean-san admiting to the crime. Roke, Arja, and some others including an orc who was attacked by sean was also there at this time.

ooc: due to technical problems i had to put the image on a hompagehttp://www.geocities.com/first_impact/screenshot.html


(Edited by Dyluck at 7:26 pm on Dec. 4, 2001)

This image is disturbing.  I was there but I quickly forgot about him saying that because he tried to kill my good frien Noss and I was trying to prevent this.  I think if there were a trial this would be enough evidence because Arja and I were there.  Dyluck was asking Sean questions about him being the murderer and Sean yelled that he (sean) was the murderer.  By the Way... Noss is doing great and he was not killed

Roke, you remember that happening?

@Dyluck:
You wouldn't make it obvious that you are paralyzing people!  But thats not the point.

@Sean:
Do you admit to being the mystery killer?

@Lord Chaos: LOL what do you mean? A green cloud with a loud screaming cloud pretty obvious you know. Everyone including the killer will have noticed that you're paralyzing after the first spell. Anyways by then he will have finished off the victim before you've even had enough time to notice that someone was hit and cast one paralyze. It doesn't work, think about it.

Get a good idea on who it is, target that person, and see if it stops.  If not, wait a bit before trying again.  Try to get the point person to be someone who takes damage, but not much.  It will work that way better than using throwing stars at people...  But all of this is besides the point.  Anyways, what were we talking about before?

@LC: I think sean was just cryin out loud and trying to sound sacrism
@Sean: I'm not sure if you did it or not, but just calm down...  I'm not blaming you...
@Dyluck: Dude, just chill eh?  You think he's the one, so maybe he is the one!  But until we get more logical proof, he is just a suspect as well as a victim!  So just chill ok?  We'll figure this out as time goes on...

@Everyone else:
Guys should really beware...  Archers can really be anyone out there...  You can't tell the difference until you take a needle and go around to poke em.  Even then you might just accidentlly poke some sad case who wasn't wearing a sheild at the moment...  Bring your shield with you even if you're a devoted mage.  That's what I've been doing now days...  Just to be sure no archers start to feel stupid.

Ok, you heard Dyluck, "chill ok?"! jk

It is a good idea to also carry 2 shields, just in case...

And Sean, please try to use correct grammar and spelling in your posts, or else someone might take them the wrong way if they don't understand... (no offense)

What do you mean try it again? After the first paralyze it will be too obvious to get another chance. The archer isn't just going to keep shooting after knows that might paralyze him. And besides like i said the archer can shoot a few arrows enough to kill anyone before you have enough time to even react and paralzye one person. After you paralyze someone the arrows will stop because the victim is DEAD already, not because he can't fire anymore. And even if by some miracle you find someone who can take a LOT of damage, who do you think the archer will aim at? the person who can take a lot of damage? or an easy victim which he can kill in one or two shots? Your experiment relies on the element of surprise which is gone after the first atempt


Now I want to draw everyone's attention to the point about Sean using a wand. If Sean was really using a wand because he thought paralyzing someone was his best defence, why did he not mention this at the beginning when I questioned his reasons for equipping a wand? Why does he not bring up this important explanation for using a wand until now?

PS: I really hate it when people reply without carefully looking and understanding all the previous posts first

(Edited by Dyluck at 9:42 pm on Dec. 4, 2001)

#me sits back for a bit...

#me remembers hearing that high blood pressure is not good...

#me is suddenly worried sick...

hehe

So anyway, like i said, why did sean not explain until his last post that he had a wand because he thought that paralyzing someone was his best defense? (that is if anyone even believes that)

And his "evidence" (me logging in and out) that he had against me, why did he not write that down in his earlier posts if it was really so suspicious?

It sounds more like he's making up the paralyze explanation as he goes along and rephrasing things in order to frame me (ooc: quote from sean-"Dyluck always logged out before a murder and logged back in after knowing what exactly happend" That is obviously not true. If it were, wouldn't everyone else have been suspicous of me too? What I really said after I logged back in is explained in an earlier post if anyone wants to know.)

So my point is that sean can't be trusted, because its very suspicous that he doesn't present his important explanations and accusations until now and sounds like he's making things up.
Not to mention that he used being drunk as an excuse to attack. And if he pleads sarcasm for the "magical image" of him admitting to be the murderer himself, then we will never know when sean is telling the truth or if he is just being sarcastic, will we?

That is not exactly how you would have done it to make it not look obvious.  But I Do Not want to argue about that anymore.

I am not reading the previous posts, or sean is not?

It does seem odd that sean is just bringing all of this up now.  Why sean?  

Thanks for the graphic Dyluck, it does help clear things up.

I must take Dyluck's side because most of the evidence seems to support him, not because I have something against sean.  Roke supported that the graphic is authentic sean, so don't deny it now.

well i have some evidence to support sen-san  here it goes:
-about the expiriment that involved shooting people. the other
sean san was wandering around when some mummies killed him.
This proves that his parry is low enough that he can be killed by most things.
-I know when i was shoot and killed sean-san was not around. I think
he had actually left the game at that point. Also a few died when he was gone.
during this time setherioth and rune scape were at the scene along with some
others.

sean not being the one that killed you doesn't mean he didn't kill someone else. Like many people believe, there may have been more than one killer, perhaps even more than two...

i left after i got killed the first time so i was not even on like korn said and i USED ALL MY ARROWS ON KORN ERLIER
@ LC and Dyluck
the reason why i am bringing all this up is b/c i just noticed that dyluck brought it up erlier when hesaid "remember i thought lining everyone up on the walls was amusing" this happend when he was logged out AND when he came back no1 would realise he ven logged out b/c he was always the quitest there he had the perfect cover the whole time
@Dyluckmy explaination for the wand was not posted until now as it usually would be irrevelant ina court of law and  if there was more then one killer the only two i know for sure are
Gurok (sorry bro u killed me in EXP 2)
Sssssla(sliced at me when i was beside him pionting to an obvious attacker)
again here is my list of suspects and reasons

Nik Elrah (Healed B4 Rune Even got HIT)

Sssssla(was way to reactive and sliced at me when i was beside him)

Dyluck (reasons posted above)

these three people are my PRIME suspects MY PRIME SUSPECTS

Sean... You already admitted to being the archer. (ooc):See Dyluck's Picture I can vouch for it's authenticity.  Now all of a sudden after saying you were the archer you acuse others of being the archer and say you are innocent.  This is confusing

Although I think I know what sean might be refering to, he quotes a line that I did not actually say. I reinforce the fact once again that sean rephrases facts to make it seem like what he wants it to be.
He thinks i'm guilty but did not remember this important evidence (supposedly) against me until now?. Who believes this?

quote from sean-"Dyluckmy explaination for the wand was not posted until now as it usually would be irrevelant ina court of law " I questioned his purpose for wearing a wand all along but he doesn't give a reason until now. His reason could explain why he was holding a wand and had the same defense as an archer. And now he says its irrelevant?
Still sounds like he's just making it up as he goes along doesnn't it?

quote from sean-"i left after i got killed the first time so i was not even on like korn said and i USED ALL MY ARROWS ON KORN ERLIER "
Sean not being on when one death occurs doesn't mean he's not one of the killers.
Once again, if this was actually such a vital piece of evidence to clear his name, why did sean not bring this up earlier?

It seems all of sean's excuses for bringing up new things from the crime is  "its irrelevant" or
"i didn't remember until someone else says..."
Hmm......makes him seem suspicous and lowers his credibility doesnt it?

PS: I'm quiet because I watched for clues the whole time unlike you who just ran around screaming.

(Edited by Dyluck at 5:16 pm on Dec. 5, 2001)

*burp* mmm good one. oh surrry.

Gah..gag...I would j..j..just like to say that S..s..sean-sean is a big bully, and if you are new to this town please beware of him.

Qulg..cuse me. I'm new to this town and was just tring to make a living yesterday by learning some new skills and making some armor that I sell...((which by the way if you need an armor or weapons for a low low price please come and see Noss the greatest smithee that ever lived. I can be found roaming the streets digging in the trash and taking mud baths. Just follow your nose))...when this S..s..sean-sean evil, mean, ugly, human came to town and said that since everyone thinks he's a murder he is going to act like one. Then he said so who wants to be first. Noss being new to this town I thought that this is some kind of custom or game that I had never heard of and since I love to try new things I said that I wanted to play.

So out of no where he cast some kind of green cloud on me that made me puke on my shoes and unable to do anything else...well except for soiling my pants. Then he started attacking me. I started screaming and crying but still could not move. If it wasn't for some kind humans Roke and Dyluck. I would have died that day. I still have nightmares about it.

Sincerly,

The Best Smithee Ever Noss...Remeber Low Loow Prices.

@sean:
That picture sort of tells the whole tale here.  Now you can't accuse anyone else, since you admitted to it.  Think about it...  And on your next post, Please Don't Use So Much Slang!!!!

Thanks.

In case anyone doesn't know, Noss is the orc that was attacked by sean yesterday as referred to by Roke in an earlier post. Noss is also in fact the orc that can be seen in my "magical image". Here's another case we have. I think there is enough witnesses to convict Sean of attempting to murder Noss.