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Sorry  you was too bad Thoer.
Angaria wasnt death. You failed with your try.

oh well, i still got two other players

Thoer, you really need to learn some definition of roleplaying... it's not hack'n slay, fighting or skills that count in roleplay, but the stories itself do.
I will open a story topic on the roleplay board soon. Roleplay is a "story" formed by all people who participate, in a certain rule frame. I guess you may be banned for some time, perhaps a year or a half, but you can get a nice roleplay fun on the boards too. Well, you may have some great ideas, but you shouldn't ruin the fun for others. And that's what you are doing when killing people with a powerful char so they have no real cance against him.
Perhaps, we will have an arena later - but not for now. I know you dislike authorities, but it's the only technical possible way by now to stop people who ruin the fun for others, that should be prevented or stoppe by the rules, and by Bror and the other GMs. And roleplaying should be fun for all : playing a role, fitting in the surrounding background, will make it fun for all, and be a challenge for the player and fun too. Challenge in that way : Some roles can be played easily - a priest, a healer, a mage... some need some roleplaying skill, especially evil roles.
I will start a roleplay story that has nothing to do with the game itself, but with some of its background, and/or characters, if there are some people who are interested.

I just wanted to say that I am personally sorry to all members of the Iron Hammer guild that were hurt a few days ago by some of my fellow orcs.  I wanted to asure you that they were not ordered, told, or even asked to do such an evil act by me, the leader of the bloodskulls.  They were acting by themselves.  I also wanted to point out that they are not members of the bloodskulls, they were attempting to become members, but after what has happened, there is no way that they will ever be allowed into the clan.   And I would also like to asure you that they have been delt with by myself, and any further actions are not needed.  Once again, I am sorry for what they have done, there is no war between our guilds, and I should hope that there never will be.

Why not? There's no strength among the ranks of those midget Ironhammers.
They serve us much better dead...

Griitash...
i dont find your treaths amusing...
stop it...
we dont want you as an enemy...
but there is a limit to what threats we can take...

gurok, i do hope you will make griitash stop this insulting of the ironhammers...
i have nothing against orcs now...
and i wont have anything against them in the future either...
but i dont like griitash' foul mouth... make him stop

Sorry Leif, but Griitash is not one of my clan.  He is a loner now who spends his time in the woods.  Although he is a very valuable friend and ally, he is not under my control, and never will be.  So if you don't like what he has to say, you should talk to him.  Just don't offend him to much as we are allies and I would hate to have to break our treaty of peace......and no, thats not a threat.  

@Griitash, sorry my friend, but I am not planning on waging war on anyone anytime soon, but thank you for your support.  It is good to have friends who will back you up no matter the odds.

@ leif , you really shouldnt take all so personally

@ gurok , im glad to hear that the bloodskulls and the ironhammer can live in peace

@ griitash , hmm..
what would i say for you..

"ah long time has passed since we've met , but im sad to see how you have changed , all waging war , no time for peace (or fluffy bunnys , or neither elks) disapointed am i ,gray is my mind , i hope that you will be friendly , but trust you can i?"

thats all i have to say for now.

im sorry my king... i do try to defend the guilds honor...
the way people are threatening us... we seem weak
i dont want that... we are a highly cultivated group of craftsmen ,warriors and politicans
i hope one day people will see that

gurok, im sorry i thought he was in your guild...
but if he keeps provoking people and you defending him, wouldnt that kind
of making him a member, practicaly speaking?

Leif, how many dwarves do you know that are not members of the Iron Hammer.....and would you not stand up for them if they had been threatened by another clan?....this is exactly the situation I am in with Griitash.  Next time think a little before you assume so much.  For some reason it seems that you are the one speaking for you guild and not your King, does he approve of this?, or are you trying to seem more powerful than you really are?  I am sorry to be so harsh but you have really agrivated me as of late with your nonsensical remarks.  Caranthir, you really should have a talk with your advisor, or whatever he is, because he may be the one that starts a war, I can not control the actions of Griitash, but I will surely defend them if I must.  So please keep a muzzle on our dear Leif so he does not get us all into trouble that we do not need, or want for that matter.  Thank you Caranthir.

gurok , yes , leifs speaks often more argessively than he should , and i think that he can be more peaceful.
but are  you saying  that you defend ANY actions griitash makes?
cause in this matter hes the most argessive one i think.
it seems like he would be waging war against us.. and we have done nothing against him.

think about that , my personal opinion is that because of udans leaving , people have started to treat us like a crap.
everyone is wanting something , declaring wars and such.. boy i miss the old days , when people could be trusted.

leif is a dwarf of hes time , hes a product of this hostile society , allmost everwhere i go , somebody says "i dont like dwarves" or "dwarves , what do we need them for?".
i think that people should think about their attitudes about dwarves , cause we are not the ones causing all the trouble.
i think that the dwarves are the most peaceful race in all illarion.
unlike some others. i have never heard that somebody would say "gee , i dont like humans" or
"i hate elfs" , why?

you should people think about that.

                                                                                                                Yours , Caranthir.

Fluffy bunnies...
Sounds familiar. Its too bad I sobered up, maybe I could find more of those fluffy ones
if I start drinking again.

Let me clarify my earlier statement.  I would protect Griitash from any attack, as he would do for me I am sure, but I would not aid in an attack on any certain guild members, or entire guilds, unless there was an absolute need to do so.  I can only think of one or two situations where this could occur.  1) If the guild was evil and threating the safety of all people of Illarion,  or  2)  If the other guild was causing trouble for myself and the bloodskulls, or any of our allies.  So as you can see, I would not help him to attack your guild, but if you were to attack him, we would be forced to defend him because he is our friend and ally.  Now if he were to attack on his own, and then you were to seek him out for payback......thats an entirely different situation.....I would have to examine the exact details of the event before we could take action, but there is a good chance we would still defend him from any attackers.  And thank you for helping me to understand why Leif was saying the things he had, now I will be able to put up with him and his ways, hopefully.

i do am sorry for my remarks... that might have sound arrogant...
but most others dont like us dwarfes...
gurok... i can seem to remember helping you, when you where new... dosnt that count?
you see?
griitash seem to hate us dwarfes... we dont know why...
but we cant stop him from attacking us...
and if we attack back, then you will declare a war against us...
because you are most likely to belive him...
what can we do?
please help us gurok... we dont want war... we only want to
craft  things in peace.... and mine in peace...
but how can we do that, when you all only want to kill us dwarfes?
and theres no real reson either...
just because you want to fight?

Leif...ooc....are you german?  maybe we are just having a translation problem, because I think we are aiming for the same goal here, we just cant seem to state it how the other person will understand it.  We dont want war, and you dont want war.  So thats good.  But if for some reason you happend to attack a friend of my guild then there will be war, not that we want it, it will just be necessary.  And of course we do not want to kill skillful craftsmen, and that includes almost all dwarves, and certainly, every Iron Hammer member.  So that is the last time I will be stating anything here, unless I am personally requested.  So in summery, Dwarves are good, Orcs are good.  War is bad.  Griitash is good, war on Griitash is bad.  So one bad will equel another bad.  War on Griitash is a war on yourselves.....wow, that even confused me, sorry.  So please dont attack Griit. because then I will have to attack you nice dwarves, and that wont be good at all.

You have my word of honor, that i will not attack griitash...
i will even help him if he needs any, i have great respect for you orcs

but if i or anyone other in the ironhammer guild attack... then we have a  
REALLY good reson , like he attacked first...

attacking griitash first, is out of the question... i dont see a reson...
but we are afraid if he attacks... he seems agressive against us...

but anyway... you have my word that i wont attack first... and in the name of irmorom and our king, i tend to keep that promise...
cause my word means alot...

Me? Attacking you?

Nooo... Im nothing but a weak old man.
My Eon of glory has passed, Im no longer a threat to anyone by myself
But my dreams
My prophecies,
Tell me of the resurection of our great God
And he will bathe in your blood

hmm... well griitash?
could you make your god take it easy on me?