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this is not the battle's fault. It is all the bullshit that ensued after the battle.

We are not talking about the door of your bathroom, but a defensive gate which usually is intented to keep people out. This means, that they are thick and heavy, with most lockstrucktures located logically and by default in "inside" of the gate to prevent most tampering by possible attackers.

so we cannot have double locks...but the dwarves can have a mysterious magical gate that you mnust have a sacred key from irmorom gives them and there is no other way?

well...we didnt have the luxury of having npc guards to help us defeat the 20 people who rushed us. It would have been nice had a gm been notified about the attack. But hey..whatever.

Exactly Val
No offemse Galim and Caranthir...but in real life you two are the must stubborn people ever. You always see your way as the only way. You think you are all mighty and wise and everything that comes out of your mouth is right. You both should step off of your high horse some day and look around. I know Im wrong sometimes at least....and im pretty stubborn myself...but neither one of you ever open your eyes.

uhm, i don't know with what i earned that now o_O. you want to compare the gates of a dwarventown with the gates of a human castle? okay, if ya want <_<. you don't know me real life, you never had the chance to learn me know. so don't judge me just because of the few ya heard from me


20? i think we were 8, or 9. notified? the attacked was planed 5 minutes ago. shukk came, told us that you guys are attacking trolls bane, we gathered, waited, noone cames. he told us he saw ya on the wy to trolls bane, killed one and fled, so we started an attack. that all happened in a few minutes.

Bullshit you talking about Bullshit well then star by yourself because you runned around after battel 1.Point then i think we hit vahkos as he tried to shut the second door so..maybe he didn't made it in time or maybe yes..well its past and you can't chnage it.
Then after your reattack and you were beaten up you were by the cross well then after you were slain you can surely run like normal chars...sure.. then somebody stands with weapons in the near of you ...your forces beaten and says you should surrend and what do you make? y<ou patalyze him and trie to burn him up *claps* 2. bad point.
well then running around in stony areas after beaten..well mentioned that befor uhh don't know but i think this is worth another point.
ok totally three bad points that are maybe not so good but acceptable rp but why start bash each other?

Nope. I believe that I have stated in the past, that if you request it and give me a good reason, I'll open the gate OOC for you.

That "key" is due to the fact in reality, many people created dwarven characters and walked throught the gates, mined and exitted when no-one was online. Hence we created 'the key.'

I have to this date recieved no requests to open the gate. This (storming the gate) can also be achieved with the assistance from the Gamemasters.

The diffrence is, that our characters caught yours with their pants down in ankles, which led into their violent deaths and the capturing of the gates. Wasn't Vahkos already slain anyhow? How come did he return to close the gates?

You think you are all mighty and wise and everything that comes out of your mouth is right.

Whatever you say, dear. You and Malinne have tendency to go into personalities when you are upset. Nevermind, you can apologise later. I understand your need to let out some steam when you are upset. Typical for you lesser folk.

Galim my point wasn't to compare it was to show that there are a certain amount of players that always get come out happy. and if you don't you have a fit. The second Vahkos closed that gate 20 OOC comments flew out. Then when you came out you seemed like those kids who get angry and almost are brought to tears then laugh it off and act all nice. First of all Vahkos was not hit until after and WAS CONTINUED TO BE POUND through the gates. Yes malinne came and attacked and I think I said stotp attacking. And even when we left you just came and attacked again when you saw us GOING AWAY FROM THE CASTLE.

I think you can stop this here and now.

The small part I withnessed was filled with OOC, useless discussion and absolutly no roleplay.

In the end I suggest you simply calm down, forget about it and play on, since neither side seems to be able to call thier roleplay "clean".

Oh..well simple. Since dwarves get impenetrable doors and our doors are shit we decided at the cross that we should even the playing field so we all decided cherga was watching over us and we were never truly hurt..then we ran and shoved a lot of magic pixies up our asses so that we could run fast. And it was me who paralyzed and started throwing flames...It had to have been ark's alter ego who was unscathed by the first battle. Okay..simple english for you to udnerstand now what really happened.

We came back ONLY TO LOCK THE GATE. WE DID NOT FIGHT.

After fleeing and ebing chased of course we would not surrender. I cannot speak for the others, but Ark is not really one to surrender. Of course she would run. and run like hell. Funny thing is..when you are truly injured, you get this thing called adrenaline and I bet if someone was trying to kill me, I'd run faster hurt than just normal running.

Casting? ARK IS A MAGE! SHE CASTS! SHE CANT FIGHT! SHE HAD A FULL MANA BAR SO OF COURSE SHE WAS NOT MGAICALLY DRAINED AT ALL!

And where was Ira during all thins???? :: Wouldn't you like to know! But for real, it sounds like it was...fun..... But I was having fun elsewhere. That however sounds like something Quinasa would have enjoyed! LOL

Keikan..what part did you witness as I never saw you

Arkadia Misella wrote:We came back ONLY TO LOCK THE GATE. WE DID NOT FIGHT.

Okay. Excellent, so why did you come back to lock the gate? Why did you come back at all?

As I said this is not about the rp in the fight. I am here as I said a certain group gets upset when they don't get their way but eventually do. I am not upset about the fight, but i am upset that I won't be able to rp with Val that much since Arkadia is leaving for a bit. Val was the funnest to rp. His story was deep and intertwined every action was based on the past.

hmm...your kingdom at stake...you ahve one alst chance to perhaps save it..you would go through immense pain to try and save it. Im sure caranthir would not just give up silverbrand at a whim.

yer right! But imagine me ruling Northerot! LOL ::grins evilly::

last words:

why do dead people lock gates? of a castle that it taken? i mean, jailing the attackers in your own castle? well, with that i will end this discussion

Once again everything went a certain way. My blabble continues.

Im not playing because of all these "old" players who either cannot rp at all or have fits when thigns dont go there way. Like if our group had defeated all of them....20 bucks says they would ahve bitched up a storm..but yet..us the good rp'ers who lsot the battle, are only upset because of the piss poor rp of the others

Okay: To me this is a bit contradicting, you came back to save your kindom, but you didn't come to fight? Perhaps you would like to explain your intentions a bit further to a silly non-native englishspeaker as myself? Taken, that there were around fifteen to twenty armed invaders right next to the gates.

First I was called to open the gates a played closed "ooc" and to heal a killed character.

To neither I was able, but I heard a long and useless discussion about keys, mechanics of the gate and who has right and who not.

Second time, I was called to do "something" with the gates again.
So that everybody is able to open and close it.

I refused, since I did not see a good reason to this.

Again I saw more OOC than actual roleplay, until I said it is enough now.
But even afterwards I would not stop completly.



From the original battle and fighting I didnt saw anything, so I cant say anything about it.
May it be good or not, but all what came afterwards was just worse in my eyes.

I am pissed because the first statement you said. Every incident that happens I can map out the effects of it.

Why lock you inside? Because you amy ahve been in our castle...but you would be contained. Simple logic. Keep you contained until we could regroup and get reinforcements

Ta-daa. So you basically intented to commit a hostile act towards the attacking army after being killed.

So Keikan...even though we never see eye to eye...can you see at least why I am so angry right now? So many old players...such poor play.

Galim wrote:last words:

why do dead people lock gates? of a castle that it taken? i mean, jailing the attackers in your own castle? well, with that i will end this discussion

Can anyone answer that?

If ya would not have come back...it would have been over.

Ta-daa. So you basically intented to commit a hostile act towards the attacking army after being killed?

Answer this, Arkadia. Then we talk about poor roleplay.

Actually Caranthir..we thought you were swarming into the castle deep down. If we had knwown you were all standing at the gate we would not ahve come back.

Alora..I already answered your question

Also I haven't had a few of my questions answered....

How could shukk kick me away then swing her war hammer so quickly?

Why did you attack us when we tried to leave?