Shandariel el Lysanthrai wrote:And why would your dwarf learn elvish? There should be a rp explanation behind.
im a craftsman-for trade purposes!
Simple really...but who said my dwarf would learn? is it not possible that i have other charectors you dont know about? Each charector is played entirely differently-or maybe i really am just wanting to know for trade reasons. That you will never truely know
Oh, I have a question about this. Could the elves coax the elf living up North into living into Vanima, and not be so careless about what he teaches whom? It is rather silly.
Can you be more specfic? ive checked "northwest"///
And i think it'd be stupid to have him only teach those the elves deem fit. He was put there so that ANYONE could learn elvish. Im sure there are appropriate npcs in the works for other languages....i think orcish already has one, doesnt it? and besides, he only teaches a bit, ive seen the script, if you dont have a really good intelligence, you arent going to learn squat from him.
Shandariel el Lysanthrai wrote:And why would your dwarf learn elvish? There should be a rp explanation behind.
im a craftsman-for trade purposes!
Simple really...but who said my dwarf would learn? is it not possible that i have other charectors you dont know about? Each charector is played entirely differently-or maybe i really am just wanting to know for trade reasons. That you will never truely know
Because Drogla still is Dorgla. The one who wants to know everything, life everywhere and so on
I don't know if this should be in this sticky or not, but I haven't found an answer in game and it's been haunting me for a while.
when I practice for goldsmithing, I make the plates, (not nay more due to this problem)
question: I have about about a thousand copper plates. they don't due anything so I can't sell to players. there must be some npc somewhere on the island that buys them!
question: I have about about a thousand copper plates. they don't due anything so I can't sell to players. there must be some npc somewhere on the island that buys them
can't it be made that the guy ontop the fluffy sheep buys them? he buys copper goblets, cutlery, wooden plates, all those things except the copper plates.
falco1029 wrote:Can you be more specfic? ive checked "northwest"///
And i think it'd be stupid to have him only teach those the elves deem fit. He was put there so that ANYONE could learn elvish. Im sure there are appropriate npcs in the works for other languages....i think orcish already has one, doesnt it? and besides, he only teaches a bit, ive seen the script, if you dont have a really good intelligence, you arent going to learn squat from him.
The thing is mister Falco person, have you ever considered that everyone plus their moronic brother can now learn elvish (and does so, may I say). I have frequently seen people whom suddenly understood my elvish, while I do not see them having any reason for knowing it.
Atleast Enwell came to Vanima, and asked the elves if they could teach him elvish. That is a way I would much rather see it.
falco1029 wrote:Can you be more specfic? ive checked "northwest"///
And i think it'd be stupid to have him only teach those the elves deem fit. He was put there so that ANYONE could learn elvish. Im sure there are appropriate npcs in the works for other languages....i think orcish already has one, doesnt it? and besides, he only teaches a bit, ive seen the script, if you dont have a really good intelligence, you arent going to learn squat from him.
The thing is mister Falco person, have you ever considered that everyone plus their moronic brother can now learn elvish (and does so, may I say). I have frequently seen people whom suddenly understood my elvish, while I do not see them having any reason for knowing it.
Atleast Enwell came to Vanima, and asked the elves if they could teach him elvish. That is a way I would much rather see it.
Yes but language shouldnt be some ancient secret, if anything there should be library books that teach all languages. And btw Ules knew a bunch of langauges before they forced it into a skil l(which i think is stupid btw, it encourages powerlearning rather than good rp, but thats a diff argument), and he wishes to relearn them. he knew them then because he had to, as back on his old continent most other races didnt speak common.
And dont think he was some language god though, he knew some elvish, some orcish, and very little dwarvish (and of course human and common), not a load of everything...
they should all be learned in a book in the library or something, yet it should take a very very very long time to learn, so that you can only learn one if your going to learn at all. that way everyone doesn't know every language perfectly, yet the could if the worked hard enough
Poots wrote:they should all be learned in a book in the library or something, yet it should take a very very very long time to learn, so that you can only learn one if your going to learn at all. that way everyone doesn't know every language perfectly, yet the could if the worked hard enough
well, it should bebased on intelligence for how quick you learn, and willpower for how many you can learn, IMO. so with 18 intelligence and 4 willpower you'd learn one language quickly, and thats it, for example.
Finally found the damned elf, and had to reget all the items he wanted, which took forever with Ules (low perception). It didnt teach him all of elvish though, which is weird, as there's no other way to learn it....
You can't expect to learn a language (esp one as intricate/complex as elvish) in a single day, no matter how much bribing you do On a technical level I think this is supposed to happen, and he is set to teach you just a small amount at first.
Technically he only needs to teach you one skillpoint of the skill "Elven", and you can then start speaking it. The more you speak it, the better you become. How do you think did the mages get their ancient so near-perfect/perfect?
Misjbar wrote:Technically he only needs to teach you one skillpoint of the skill "Elven", and you can then start speaking it. The more you speak it, the better you become. How do you think did the mages get their ancient so near-perfect/perfect?
ah, i had heard you dont gain skil lby speaking the languages. And i need to get an ancient book. Probably the best first step for learning magic...
Sylveria wrote:You can't expect to learn a language (esp one as intricate/complex as elvish) in a single day, no matter how much bribing you do On a technical level I think this is supposed to happen, and he is set to teach you just a small amount at first.
according to the npc elvish is a lot like human . It says something like "You realize that elvish has many common words and roots with your own language" and such while it teaches you .
In order to master languages you have to practice speaking it, that is the only way. Ancient textbook teaches more ancient than the elvish teacher elvish, to get to be able to trade with Elinas is alot of practice but one of my chars can. Especially without spewing alot of useless junk, or offending elves.
Misjbar wrote:Technically he only needs to teach you one skillpoint of the skill "Elven", and you can then start speaking it. The more you speak it, the better you become. How do you think did the mages get their ancient so near-perfect/perfect?
ah, i had heard you dont gain skil lby speaking the languages. And i need to get an ancient book. Probably the best first step for learning magic...
You actually do learn it by speaking it lots. Misjilah has nearly mastered the ancient language now by using it over and over again. Thankfully, casting spells helps my ancient too. ^^
I am already able to have conversations in elvish. But my char was also intelligent enough when she learned elvish. I don't try with a char of intelligence 10 or less to learn a language like elvish
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