The Elven Community - Place where all elves can live in peac

Elaralith · Post by **Elaralith** » Fri Jan 10, 2003 12:10 am

You catch on quickly my friend.

Cain Freemont · Post by **Cain Freemont** » Fri Jan 10, 2003 12:22 am

Yes, at times the flow of time is quite rapid in my eyes. I only assume that it is the same for most elves. Though recently, my eyes have been more preoccupied with other things than to be worried about the passage of time.

Kalypse · Post by **Kalypse** » Fri Jan 10, 2003 12:47 am

Greetings my dear elves and friends!

Once again I appologise for my absence... and now I would like to welcome both Srathrate (James), which I know already... welcome James... and Kloan, which I do not know yet but would really like to meet soon. I am sure you are a good elf, but if by any chance you prove contrary you lose more than just the community warm welcome... you would be missing our trust, and to get it back it could take centuries.

I hope to see as many of you there together as soon as it is possible.
May wisdom and peace be always present.

((the website has been updated too for the new members, if anyone knows of someone who disappeared or something like that please let me know.))

Loki Feuerhaar · Post by **Loki Feuerhaar** » Fri Jan 10, 2003 1:10 am

Greetings brothers and sisters of the elvish race!

I have an important question to you, please answer me.
Since when do elves mix up with drows ?
Dont want to offend, but i realy would like to know if i missed a important change in our society.

With greetings
yours,
Loki Feuerhaar

Cain Freemont · Post by **Cain Freemont** » Fri Jan 10, 2003 2:32 am

Loki-

Like Forest elves, and other "higher elves", Drows are elves as well... I have never known the time that the elven community did not associate with Drows.

Loki Feuerhaar · Post by **Loki Feuerhaar** » Fri Jan 10, 2003 2:56 am

Dear and honored Cain,

if you make Drows and Elves equal, i think you insult both of them.
They may be once upon a long and forgotten time of elvish kind, but they turned to darkness ,evil and destruction.
"Representative" of thier race dealt much damage and pain to many citizen of our town. Seeing them now amog the comunity of peaceful elves gives me a kind of ironic feeling.
Maybe the comunity is corrupted by shadows, or my mind and hearth.

with respectful greetings
Loki Feuerhaar

Kalypse · Post by **Kalypse** » Fri Jan 10, 2003 2:13 pm

Hmm... I think I may have missed something here... Loki, who do you refer to exactly? I am a bit lost..

((I have updated the website for the newest changes. Sorry it took so long))

As for other matters... It is essencial that we of the community make a meeting, like pointed out so many times during the time I was away. We must review a couple of things and discuss new options for us. Also I would like to know more about each one of you and know who is still actually among us. There has been a dark time while I was gone it seems and many may not be here anymore. I need to have my idea of the whole community again, because that is the only way we can do something for every member. Our dear friend Elaralith, priestess of Elara and our community advisor, has a few ideas that should be discussed more carefully among us. I ask you all to reply telling us which time you are most likely available for a meeting of this kind. It will also be a nice way to get together and know each other. We have some technical problems regarding our own place now as many should already know, but I have been talking to a few members of our community and for the time being our spot may be considered to be a circle of trees located southeast of Troll's Bane. Any questions or suggestions on that matter should be equally posted here or shared with us personally.

I wish us all the best of luck.

Loki Feuerhaar · Post by **Loki Feuerhaar** » Fri Jan 10, 2003 4:22 pm

Greetings fair Lady Kalyse,

i am refering to your recent new "members". I hurts me to use that word if i have to discribe them.
Thier names are James, or how he calls himself Srathrate, and Kloan.
Look in thier faces and finaly recognize from which dark breed they are.
Dont let your comuntiy become a hideout for drowish creatures.

I beg you,
Loki Feuerhaar

Kalypse · Post by **Kalypse** » Fri Jan 10, 2003 5:18 pm

This is indeed disturbing news... I know James for a while now, but I do not know Kloan. I would like to talk to you both as soon as it is possible. Please do search for me in Troll's Bane. This is one information that cannot be ignored.

I have been talking to Loki and cleared up a few things. Now I have another matter to take care of. Please Cain, my friend, I need to speak to you. It is an issue I can't discuss through here, being private and not regarding the community.

I hope this whole matter is dealt with soon.

James · Post by **James** » Fri Jan 10, 2003 9:19 pm

im not here to cause discomfort or a uneasiness amongst the community if is the wishes of the community i willl take my lwave but could someone please inform me on my situation so i know where i stand i am not here to cause trouble or bring harm to anyone.

Srathrate

Elaralith · Post by **Elaralith** » Fri Jan 10, 2003 10:55 pm

@Loki All elves of no evil are welcome in the Elven Community. To prevent all drows which are elves from associating with us would be stereotypical. Of course, generally drows are evil, but there are those who have decided to forsake their old ways and for that they are welcome.
You can be certain though that no evil will be allowed to "hideout" in the Elven Community. For those that are evil, it is perilous to enter our dwelling.
@James Where you stand is determined by yourself. Be assured though that if you are not one who wishes to harm you are welcome in the Community.

James · Post by **James** » Fri Jan 10, 2003 10:58 pm

I am pleased to here that some people can see through racial stereotyping i will be honoured to take my place in the elven community.

thanks

James aka Srathrate

Elaralith · Post by **Elaralith** » Fri Jan 10, 2003 11:14 pm

Greetings to you all my elven brethren of the Elven Community!

As Kalypse mentioned earlier there are some ideas I have as Community Advisor that must be discussed. I would like to present it to you in full. The meeting which has been mentioned will take place for now in our forum. In the future a meeting in illarion is planned. First of all a matter of some controversy, the temporary location of the Elven Community in illarion and our meeting place. I suggest the forest south-east of Trollsbane which in it contains a ring of trees and rocks in the center. This is a desirable location for several reasons. First it removed from Trollsbane a bit to allow for privacy while it is not so far as to to inconvenient. Also it has as I mentioned this forest has a clearing where we could stage meetings. The rocks scattered around could serve as seats. The next topic I will address concerns a vision I have had from my goddess Elara. Some of you already know about it, but most do not. Allow me to explain. Many moons passed, I had a divine vision while I was walking down a path in Trollsbane. As I walked down the path, I saw clearly many that were hurt and wounded. Also I noticed many buildings including the shop, and the library, but nowhere did I see a building to honor the gods. After seeing these things it came to me from Elara a plan. I determined to follow it and it is to build a Temple to Elara that would also function as a House of Healing open to all who are hurt whether physically, mentally, or spiritually. Staffed by dedicated people skilled in the arts of Healing and followers of Elara it would be. The building I have spoken of I have found will cost much in resources. For some time now I have been speaking of my vision and many generous people have kindly donated to this cause. I speak to you, my brethren, because of an idea proposed first by Kalypse. This idea is to use a small portion of our considerable funds to help the progress of my vision. Our funds currently have all along been for the building of our future elven city. This is impossible though right now because of technical issues ( no graphics for elven buildings yet) that will persist for quite some time yet. This causes our funds to lie dormant and so the idea. I bring you these two items to be discussed in full as they concern us all. I guarantee that I will continue to faithfully produce more new and exciting ideas that could change and enhance our Community by much.

Elara be with you all forever!

Cain Freemont · Post by **Cain Freemont** » Fri Jan 10, 2003 11:52 pm

Elaralith- This is a good idea, using funds of the Community to construct the temple. I am completely in favor of this.

Loki- I have but one thing to say about this Drow business before I let it rest. Perhaps this way people will know why I am opposed to the disassociation of Drows in the community. I, Cain Freemont, am half-drow by my father's side. I do not know how many of you know this, but being Drow is part of my heritage and thus I will support it, regardless of the past. I feel as though I am an ambassador towards the Drows, as should any others who come to these lands. As I understand it, many people fear, despise, or both fear AND despise the Drow. Well, I am living proof that not all are bad.

Yours,

Brendan Mason · Post by **Brendan Mason** » Fri Jan 10, 2003 11:53 pm

I would, be most greatful if you were to accept me as a healer...
I have experience with healing magic and I believe that I would serve as a good counsellor, e'en though I be no follower of Elara.

Loki Feuerhaar · Post by **Loki Feuerhaar** » Sat Jan 11, 2003 12:07 am

Well Cain,

in fact, i did know this. And i hoped you where not that foolish to present yourself as a perfect target.
Make preperations for a fast leaving, Cain. Drows dont like to see "halfbreeds" running arround alive.
I told that to Kalypse to keep an eye on you, to prevent you from doing such things, but my prays seem to be useless.
I have some minor knowlegde about drows, like some other elves in town.
Perhaps you speak to Cuderon, who lost his sister to the creatures whos "ambassador" your are.

Cain, wake up. There is no "good Drow" in the world, only good Lairs.
And be asured there is no such thing like a "drow-traitor", all who ever tried to escape thier livings are killed immediately.

Like i said to Kalypse once at the campfire, i pray to the gods, that your elvish hearth will be stronger than the curse of your blood.

Yours,
Loki

James · Post by **James** » Sat Jan 11, 2003 12:14 am

i assure you loki i AM NO hater of any race seemingly unlike yourself. i am no liar and i would not make an attempt at my good friend cains life if thats what your implying dont judge me because of my race you can call me a a murderous lying traitor when you find a reason to. Judge me on my actions and not my race.

James aka Srathrate

Brendan Mason · Post by **Brendan Mason** » Sat Jan 11, 2003 12:15 am

Hmmmhhh.....Cain-I'd hoped (as I do not pray), that you would not let this tidbit of knowledge slip out.
As you know, I am fully supportive of you in many of your ways of life...but revealing yourself to the drow hating public at large was an uncharacteristically un-wise move....
I shall protect, you with my fishing rod if necessary,when the time invariably comes, for the drow hunters come to harm you.

And to Loki...are you so closedminded that you cannot see what your elders have taught you, may in fact be false?

Your's
Brendan "Jace" Mason

Cain Freemont · Post by **Cain Freemont** » Sat Jan 11, 2003 12:23 am

Loki-

I am now the perfect target hm? Let me tell you a little something. I have been the "perfect target" for every damn sniper, murderer and thief for most of my life. What does it matter if I stack on just another thing to look out for. I have trouble trusting people these days anyways, so why not add on one more thing to that list. If they come for me, then they will come for me. I do not care if they do because I will take care of it when that time comes. I find it very sad that you insist on being so racial about this. My father was not the best of men, but he was no "bad drow" either. And you talked to Kalypse about this...but you never once brought to me the idea of not saying anything. I find it so hard to trust people especially when I have friends talking about me behind my back... Obviously you do not trust me to be the "good side" of the half I am...so why not expel me from the Community? I'm sure that "cleansing" the Community of beings like me would only help in your Utopian dreams.

You cannot awaken someone who never went to sleep Loki. Do not try to tell me of past things. Do not try to tell me that my heritage is "evil." Just throw me out like you are insinuating that you wish to do and I will be out of your problems and worries.

Yours,

Elaralith · Post by **Elaralith** » Sat Jan 11, 2003 1:56 am

@Brendan Followers of Elara you must be to be part of the future Order. Perhaps in time you too can become a follower? But again nothing is decided yet as many things will change. Perhaps in the future non-followers of Elara will be accepted too but as of now that is not the case

@Loki I agree with you in that Drow traditionally kill those who become good and are "traitors". But perhaps this is in itself proof to you that Cain and others are not evil as they took the risk of being killed by their own kind to live in the Light instead of the Darkness. I do not agree with you that Drow are all evil and impossible for them to be good. The Light is for all.
@Cain I am glad that you are in support of my ideas! I understand what you feel about your heritage. But I would say to you, "Calm down my friend." You are not about to be "expelled" from the Community and leaving to solve the problems would be unwise. To do that would be similar to committing suicide to solve a problem.

To all: This conflic about Drows being a part of the Elven Community is being discussed and nothing is yet decided! I myself hope that this will all be resolved soon.

Elara bless!

Cain Freemont · Post by **Cain Freemont** » Sat Jan 11, 2003 2:26 am

To all-

I hope you realize that if in anyway, my half-brethren are so vilely opinionated against or are exumed from this community, I too, shall follow. I do not care if you all say "the good good half of me is more prevalent so you can stay." I leave if Drows are forced out.

Yours,

Kalypse · Post by **Kalypse** » Sat Jan 11, 2003 5:37 am

Cain.. this saddens me... you make it seem like we did nothing but to pity you when that is not true. I am deeply disappointed that you think so of myself... I let you in because I believe in you and I trust you, the whole you. You have elven blood and your heart is pure, although your temper may cover your eyes with fog at times... We do not ignore your other half. We do not ignore what it may do to you, but we do believe that you have all the strengh necessary to go through this. I can understand that you feel that drows should also be accepted if they wish to be good, but there are things that should be said before more harm is caused. I know that you feel personaly attacked by these words, but that is far from being my intentions... You must realize that most people fear the drow race and that fear did not come from nothing. Even the word is sometimes avoided. I know you feel there have been no justice towards drows.. but wouldn't that be the eyes of your drow side? What does your elven side say? I am in no way saying that all drows are bad, but we can't ignore their nature. They are used to isolation in their own race. They do not mix with other races. Pure drow bloods would not be interested in joining us in any way, once they find the elven race to be inferior. Everything I know of you Cain are the deeds of a truthful person, not elven, not drow. I am aware of many evil elves scattered around the world. I am aware it is possible for a drow to be good, but it is extremely rare.. and almost impossible to believe.

So now I turn my attention to both Kloan and James, who wish to stay in our community...information has been brought forth indicating that you are both of the race of Drow elves. As you can imagine, we are hesitant to admit members of such a historically evil race because we do not want to threaten any of our beloved members by harboring any of these evil people. We also do not want it to be known that we admit all drow elves just because they are elves, if we were to do this then there would be a great chance that numerous drows would come from distant lands to seek shelter within our community and corrupt our peaceful lifestyle with their evil ways, bringing death and torture to us as well as all of trollsbane. For this reason we must take great care to admit only truly peaceful elves, yes even drows, but they must be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to be peaceful and friendly towards us. If there is a good reason that you wish to join us and some proof that you have abandoned the evil practice, I am willing to hear it, in full details.. placed here so that all the members shall decide if we are trully dealing with an exception, seen only in such rare cases noted through history.

You have heard me say this before, but it is of great truth and importance for these matters being discussed now.

The best crystals are found on the ugliest rocks.

Your dearest Kalypse.

Cain Freemont · Post by **Cain Freemont** » Sat Jan 11, 2003 5:47 am

I know that you, Kalypse, take no real sides in all this, and wish for your forgiveness in bringing you into this inadvertantly. I will stay in the Community, at least for now, but I honestly do not know how long I will be able to withstand the crude gestures of Loki constantly parading the evil of Drows.

Yours,

Elaralith · Post by **Elaralith** » Sat Jan 11, 2003 11:15 pm

Greetings fellow elves of the Elven Community!

It greatly saddens me to see this conflict over the Drows. That conflict should be ended in discussion now as it has been resolved and a solution found. The solution lies in what Kalypse has said earlier in her post. Let us turn our discussion to happier things. More input about the two ideas mentioned earlier would be welcome as the ideas will concern and will affect you all! I am glad that so far the input as been positive, but more response would be even more welcome!

Elara look kindly upon you all!

Kalypse · Post by **Kalypse** » Sun Jan 12, 2003 4:00 am

Greetings to all elves,

Kloan and James, I am still waiting for your answers.

To the community... earlier today the dwarves came to me wishing to speak of an alliance between them, the lizards group and us. They wish to ask for your respect towards their rules and their king, Tialdin. I believe we can all do that, since everything is quite too simple. To enter dwarven city we must be invited or guided through it by a dwarf. The main room belongs to Tialdin and nobody should enter without him there. This all sounds quite reasonable to me. The other matter is about a military alliance between us. I have already brought up the issue that we are mostly non-fighters, but I told them I would ask you for your opinion. Any comments will be welcome.

Cuderon · Post by **Cuderon** » Sun Jan 12, 2003 4:54 am

Greetings to all members of the Elven Community!

I never spoke up to you because I found my home in the Circle of the Knights of the Grey Rose. My tongue is full of words from the other language because in my hometown Od´Waihr we used to live together with humans and integrated them partially in our culture. The reason that I raise my voice now is not as cheerfull as I wish it would be.

I recognized that you allow members of the Drow race to participate in your community. That is, in my opion a big and maybe deadly mistake. They might seem harmless as long as it is to their fortune, but when the time comes an their mistresses are calling them, betray might be the less evil they do to you.

Maybe I sound like a stereotyped, embittered man. But all I want is that you proove your members worthy to be called a member of the "Elven" community. As long as you can´t guaranty for the total loyalityof your Drow members, my bow stays bend, ready to find it´s target to one of these black hearts.

May Malachín guide your and my ways,

Kalypse · Post by **Kalypse** » Sun Jan 12, 2003 5:15 am

That is not completely correct, my dear friend Cuderon.
I have not received word yet from the so called drows in order from me to stablish that limit of trust and whether or not they are harmful. If I dont receive word for a while I will most likely remove their names, more from innactivity than from the drow blood itself. But I do have my worries regarding them. I must ask you, however, that you get to know the one called Cain Freemont, first because he is not a pure blood and second, because I know him for longer than many elves of wooden blood that have betrayed the path of good. I do not wish this to be understood wrong, for we don't and will not allow any corruption or disturbances on our first and only goal, which is a society for good hearted elves. I would ask you, however, that if you have any information that might prove our current position wrong, that you speak it to us, because I cannot do much if I do not have the necessary information to do something.

Cuderon · Post by **Cuderon** » Sun Jan 12, 2003 6:13 am

Dear Kalypse,

my only proove is the tombstone of my beloved sister Cuderlia. She was murdered by the cruel hand of a Drow Mistress, right before my eyes. She has born the child of one of this brutes before she managed to flee out of their claws. If you would have seen her eyes and the scars on her body, you would understand my fears and my hatered.

I thought she would be save in our oh so peacefull town Troll´s Bane, but that was the biggest mistake I´ve ever made. They catched her up, hidden in the shadows of stone and faith... They don´t even respect our gods. The whole circle of the Grey Rose was mightless against their intrigues.

I do not know Cain , James or Kloan personally, but if they are Drow and I would be in your place, I would take care for the further existance of the "elven" community and exclude them. The only way to handle with this breed is with our sword and bow, so evil can not take place in your community anymore.

Cuderon · Post by **Cuderon** » Sun Jan 12, 2003 6:19 am

I´ll have to state that this is my opinion only. The Grey Rose isn´t invicted yet, so I can only speak for myself.

Greetings,

Elaralith · Post by **Elaralith** » Sun Jan 12, 2003 7:06 am

@Cuderon Well it is that we of the Elven Community understand the evil of those of the Drow race. But know this...not only those of the Drow race turn to evil. Many that are of pure elven blood have also turned to evil...I have seen it too many times. Measures have been taken to prevent evil whether it be Drow or normal elf to enter our Community and be members. Any who are members and act out of Evil and are proven to do so lose the trust of the Community and are removed from the Community, which as you know is very hard to gain back as we are elves. Drow elves which seek membership of the Elven Community must have very good reason to explain their goodness and it must be proven so to the whole community. I hope this allays your fears and the fears of many others.