Dyluck's "Old School RPG" Of Illarion

Val De Gausse · Post by **Val De Gausse** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 3:07 am

I have an old illa promo vid.

Neonfire · Post by **Neonfire** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 3:20 am

Looks really interesting.

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Sat Jun 19, 2004 9:03 am

Val De Gausse wrote:I have an old illa promo vid.

Well, what exactly is that? I'm guessing it's a video clip of scenes inside the game server? If so, that's probably not much use, since I don't see how that could fit into my game. I was thinking more of something along the lines of say, some anime cilp of a dragon or a demon coming out from somewhere, or attacking a town, etc. Come to think of it, movies would probably take up a lot of file space for not much reward, so it's probably best not to use movie files anyways.

The Returner · Post by **The Returner** » Sat Jun 19, 2004 3:40 pm

That all depends on compression, and if your going for a pretty long RPG, its going to be a fair size already, so why not bulk it up a bit with mp3 music and video files?

Brendan Mason · Post by **Brendan Mason** » Sat Jun 19, 2004 8:01 pm

Yes, let's make sure us dial-uppers can never download it.

Hermie · Post by **Hermie** » Sat Jun 19, 2004 9:36 pm

Yes, let's make sure those dial up users never use it

Is it not possible to make two versions?

@Brendy-poo, i could d/l it, put it on CD, and post it to ya if it's too big for ya, you'd have to trust me enough to tell me your home address tho

The Returner · Post by **The Returner** » Sat Jun 19, 2004 11:48 pm

Make a lite version.

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Sun Jun 20, 2004 2:29 am

Yes, I can make two versions. But that means the host will have to store twice as much. I'm not yet sure where I will find the host for it though.

There will be some mp3s, but mostly midis.
Are there any music composers here? It would be great to showcase some original music, rather than loading up tons of music from other rpgs.

If anyone wants to make some sound effects wav files, that would be interesting too. It could be a battle voice effect like "Yah!" or "Eat steel!" or "Feel my axe!" with a dwarven accent.

Vindigan · Post by **Vindigan** » Sun Jun 20, 2004 12:57 pm

Dyluck wrote:But that means the host will have to store twice as much. I'm not yet sure where I will find the host for it though.

If you mean webspace, I have 30MB of webspace that you can use. It saves having to pay someone

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 12:43 am

Thanks, but you should also know that I'm fairly certain that one version alone will probably be at least 20mb already. I do plan to try and keep any single version under 50mb though.

Korwin · Post by **Korwin** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 6:29 pm

I'm no music composer, although I did manage to locate a fairly good freeware midi composing program. You can find it here.
http://www.anvilstudio.com/upgraden.htm

I'm still trying to make something that doesn't sound like someone beating a keyboard with a cat.

By the way, does anyone know a good free upload site that we could put our midi's on? I'm making a moderately succesful one.

Delakaniam · Post by **Delakaniam** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 8:17 pm

I'm no great composer myself, but I've taken college-level classes in aural awareness, sight-singing, and music theory, which includes things such as part-writing and rules of melody and harmony. I'd be happy to give suggestions to any original compositions, at least...

Misjbar · Post by **Misjbar** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 9:02 pm

Well I might have something..just need a good site to get it on too

Korwin · Post by **Korwin** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 9:15 pm

Enlighten us on some of the more important rules of melody and harmony, before I accidently kill myself with my own compositions.

Brendan Mason · Post by **Brendan Mason** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 9:19 pm

Sight-singing is absolutely horrible. I had to do it for my Summer Music exam. Yeeeaaargh!

Delakaniam · Post by **Delakaniam** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:59 pm

Korwin wrote:Enlighten us on some of the more important rules of melody and harmony, before I accidently kill myself with my own compositions.

Do you possibly have anything on score I could see? That would help, but if not that, then maybe a sound file... and if not that, I will rack my brain from cell to cell on the basics to the complex of music-writing. The latter is not preferred, however

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It can be a little difficult listing composition rules and structures out of nothing. I also have no idea how much you know about music, in this technical way. If this helps you any, start off by at least finding out which key you've written it in. All other melodies and harmonies from there on should be based around that key. That is, unless you're writing background music for a dungeon level you know everyone will absolutely despise and be dying to get out of anyway, in which case you might just sit back, smile, and put down somewhat randomized runs of ear-wrenching dissonances and unresolved 7th chords. Fun, fun, fun. *evil grin*.

Brendan Mason wrote:Sight-singing is absolutely horrible. I had to do it for my Summer Music exam. Yeeeaaargh!

Which is why here where I study, we call it "sight-screaming"

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Korwin · Post by **Korwin** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 11:27 pm

This is one of the less painful snippets. It's in 4/4 time and in C Major.
What's your prognosis, doctor?

Delakaniam · Post by **Delakaniam** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 11:51 pm

Korwin wrote:What's your prognosis, doctor?

At any rate, my comments go that at first glance, the beats look intimidating to try to play. That is, sight-reading the rhythm on this score would be hell, due to the fact that some places run as 8th-16th-32nd-32nd-32nd-dotted16threst-8th-32nd32nd32nd-16th-16th-8th and so forth

. However, this might be fault of the program and not yours, where grace notes might be hard to come by, so to speak, of which I'm about to see as soon as my gloriously slow internet connection finishes downloading it.

Melody wise... since this is in C, be sure to at least start this piece on either C, G, or F, in that preferred order. Just as a note, musical phrases tend to start lower, build to a climax, and come back down in a resolve consonant to the key, unless you're writing pieces in the "Demon Dissonances" category. In the key of C, one of the best chords you can land on if you want it to sound "right" probably will consist of C-E-G, regardless of order from top to bottom (inversion). Wow, this is a lot of ranting. Please don't kill me for my personal comments

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Korwin · Post by **Korwin** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 12:01 am

the beats look intimidating to try to play

Luckily, I don't have to be concerned about anyone actually being able to play the song, which is good. I'll try keeping the notes around those you suggested, and see how it goes.

Arkadia Misella · Post by **Arkadia Misella** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 1:51 pm

Please make the music sheet go away. Pleeeaaaaaasssseeeeeeeeeeeeee.

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Fri Jun 25, 2004 2:24 am

Just to make a minor update, I AM back to working on the game, and I'm currently redoing some old maps with some more advanced mapping techniques so that they look better.

By the way, that looks like an interesting composer program. I'll have to take a look at it later when I have some more time.

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:14 am

Why must people these days have such unusual and hard to remember names?

Can someone tell me if these are male or female, and their race?

Delakaniam
Phelix Vierwind
Cliu Beothach
Tzi Hahasus

Misjbar · Post by **Misjbar** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:20 am

Delakaniam = elf, woman
Phelix Vierwind = human, man
Cliu Beothach = human, man
Tzi Hahasus = dunno

Moathia · Post by **Moathia** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:21 am

De'am Female Elf

Phelix human male
Cliu Beothach Human male

Tzi Hahasus is De'am's sister.

Delakaniam · Post by **Delakaniam** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:40 pm

Her twin, in fact ^^. And it's PO Tzi's fault we have such "unusual" names

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Val De Gausse · Post by **Val De Gausse** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 6:57 pm

and cliu is the MACK! remember that when you make him!

Hermie · Post by **Hermie** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 8:09 pm

Cliu is the raincoat?

Sabrina · Post by **Sabrina** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 4:12 am

Yes, What ever happened to people with simple names =)

I've missed you.

Neonfire · Post by **Neonfire** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 4:25 am

We all changed our names cause of the name rule.

Neon Rift, known as Neonfire in early ages

The Returner · Post by **The Returner** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 4:57 am

*raises a brow*

Wow...sabrina posted..

Anyway, I *had* to change my name, cuz the GM's wouldent give me 8550 back