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Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2007 6:12 pm**

There was also a time when a warrior could kill a mage in 2 hits, which was realistic.

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2007 6:20 pm**

Retlak wrote:Oh right, i thought you said that night when you fought the undead you had to use like 80 mana potions.

Anyway, what is this ra kel qwan exactly? (description please)

Fire Motion Power.

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2007 6:26 pm**

I was not saying they should not. At no point i did.

But it was logical back then, A mage can obviously burn a warrior in a few attempts, but a warrior could slice open arteries of a mage and have them bleed to death in a few attempts.

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2007 6:32 pm**

Hangon, why the heck am i posting here again....

...

I will return shortly with a different arguement! that will raise many eyebrows in astonishment and make them flame eachover!

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:00 pm**

Silas Farron wrote:@Matt: Then Mages should also be able to kill warriors with 2 spells.

Word

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:07 pm**

Avalyon el'Hattarr wrote:
Silas Farron wrote:@Matt: Then Mages should also be able to kill warriors with 2 spells... except Avalyon.
Word

I corrected it.

Posted: **Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:01 pm**

Well, seriously. A couple of hits with a sword would kill anyone... Not only mages. One flame that consumes you would kill you instantly. But I have never seen a game that is that realistic. Maybe it would be nice though. I dunno.

Posted: **Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:55 pm**

I see a runescape solution cropping up.

Fighting < Magic < Archery < Fighting

Posted: **Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:09 pm**

Yeah and there are no archers, so...

Posted: **Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:10 pm**

I think thats due to the current cost + work for carpenters to make many arrows...

New crafting system cropping up, genius!

Posted: **Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:14 pm**

And probably the fact no one wants to stand around shooting arrows at pigs for a long time

Posted: **Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:50 pm**

AlexRose wrote:
Avalyon el'Hattarr wrote:
Silas Farron wrote:@Matt: Then Mages should also be able to kill warriors with 2 spells... except Avalyon.
Word
I corrected it.

errr... ? wtf?!

Posted: **Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:54 pm**

Avalyon el'Hattarr wrote:
AlexRose wrote:
Avalyon el'Hattarr wrote: Word
I corrected it.
errr... ? wtf?!

Posted: **Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:45 pm**

Cuthalion wrote:Well, seriously. A couple of hits with a sword would kill anyone... Not only mages. One flame that consumes you would kill you instantly. But I have never seen a game that is that realistic. Maybe it would be nice though. I dunno.

The object is not to become more realistic. If you want to make the fighting/magic system this realistic then I would hate to hear your idea about crafting.

Posted: **Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:48 pm**

Posted: **Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:50 pm**

I just wish I had a good reason for why NPCS do not give magic res....I asked like 10 times and get no response that makes sense in the game.

Posted: **Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:01 pm**

the response made sense if you think of magic resistance as negating the magic with your mind, you just think otherwise

Posted: **Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:26 pm**

Then explain why we can still get it from other mages.

Posted: **Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:28 pm**

Lrmy wrote:
Cuthalion wrote:Well, seriously. A couple of hits with a sword would kill anyone... Not only mages. One flame that consumes you would kill you instantly. But I have never seen a game that is that realistic. Maybe it would be nice though. I dunno.
The object is not to become more realistic. If you want to make the fighting/magic system this realistic then I would hate to hear your idea about crafting.

I dont. it wasnt I who stated this in the first place. Arameh I think it was, said that a warrior should kill a mage in a couple of hits, and that this was realistic

Posted: **Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:36 am**

Since when does it matter who started something?

I do not think a warrior should be able to kill a mage in two hits and vice-versa.

Posted: **Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:39 am**

I am not really for realism, I am for fairness and balance, I stated that because some PO mages would say stuff like "magic should kill instantly since its a big bunch of ice fire whatever that strikes you"

Posted: **Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:01 am**

There are archers, though few and far between. My ranger of course. But he isn't good enough to even take down a noob.

Posted: **Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:02 am**

If magic and meelee combat are to be balanced, I first suggest that all weapons break after five consecutive uses, that way warriors won't have the unfair advantage of outlasting mages.

Posted: **Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:08 am**

But mages can escape in seconds.

Booya.

Posted: **Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:12 am**

But warriors are able to wear metal armours! I think mages should be allowed to wear metal, so that it is more realistic, and we'd have a greater variety of magic casters.

Posted: **Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:44 am**

oh yes, mages running around in platemails, suuure!

farewell logic. welcome platemail wearing and two shield using powermages of old times!

Posted: **Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:49 am**

YES!

It'll add a whole new dimension to the system! Currently, the magic system is very restricting for roleplay, as you can only play sissies like samantha or athian.

Posted: **Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:50 am**

LOL Areed.

Posted: **Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:13 pm**

Retlak wrote:But mages can escape in seconds.

Booya.

They can only teleport out if they get the time to cast the spell, and having it succeed.
Wich can take quite a while I reckon.

As for the mages in platemail, well only for more balanced battlemages.
But can you really stop a mage from wearing some light lor-angur, I mean tech wise?

Posted: **Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:07 pm**

Korwin wrote:If magic and meelee combat are to be balanced, I first suggest that all weapons break after five consecutive uses, that way warriors won't have the unfair advantage of outlasting mages.

I suggest that runes disappear after five uses as well.

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