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I haven't ignored it. the server logs show that. i took part in the quest since the first moment i noticed the fire. there was no reason for me believing that thw guy with the insurance was a questchar nor the start of a quest. and as you can see in the log, my char HASN'T ignored the sound of fire. or what do you think means "Wed May 16 00:47:32 2007: Samantha Meryadeles(232534793) whispers: *she frowns as she hears the sound of a fire*

with which time works the server? GMT? MEZ? on my clock it was 1:30 or 1:47.

and i took part. i wont say it again. there was nothing ignored. there was no reason to see the man at the door as quest. as soon as she noticed, and as soon as i noticed, that her house burns she immediatelly headed down after i wrote the sentences., instead of running down without any roleplay.


you try to twist the truth...you try to make it look like i had aaaaall time of the world and like i had enough time to rescue the seahorse. but that is simply not true. i had 30 seconds time from the first sound of a campfire to run down and starting to put the flames out. but that would need me to know what will happen., to know that the fire will spread like that, to know that i have NO time for roleplay. to know that, 30 seconds after the sound of a campfire, the house will be burning. but all that i didnt know. and i couldn't know it.


again, there was zero chance for me.



And manron, i paid with samantha 600 silvers to rebuilt it from an inn into a mansion. that is, i believe so, around the same amount of silver which Thomas paid to own the seahorse inn. btw. you can't like me because your dwarven char had problems with samantha. because he is an annoying, insulting and polemic char who can't accept any authorities. and thats the reason you hate me ooc aswell. there is no need to hide that. it is obvious. it is the same like with po dusty bottoms.


btw. lennier told me the repair costs 150 silver PLUS the materials which will be needed. which will be aswell around 80-100 silver. so not 100 silver like martin said earlier. and i thought you know everything. and that is the price halfed. so it would originally cost 300 silver plus the amount of materials needed.
but it is not the money that buggers me really. it is WHAT happened. that it was unfair, wrong and not stopable.

* It was claimed that there was no chance to extinguish the flames; there is, if you're fast enough, either by buckets of water (which, of course, she didn't have) or the corresponding spell. However, once there are too many flames (after about 1:30 or 2 minutes I'd say, maybe even 2:30), this probably won't help much. You have to be fast! If you wait 5 minutes and start then, it'll be impossible of course.
martin, you said here it becomes unstopable if someone, like me, waits too long. like 5 minutes or so. but as we could see in the log from nitram, it took me 73 seconds, 73 seconds,t o notice the very first sign of a fire, to react with roleplay on it and to cast the first spell to put out the flames. so it is not 2, 3 or 5 minutes until the flames become unstopable, but at least 73 secondssince the spells were not anymore enough to stop it . i thought you know the script? how comes that you misscalculated it like this? and you wonder why you are called a lier?
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Erstens Manron und zweitens, du kannst schreiben was du willst, es interessiert mich recht wenig! Wenn du gehen willst dann geh endlich und flame hier nicht wieder alles voll, falls du es noch immer nicht gerafft hast, oder einfach nicht raffen willst, die GMs werden wie es aussieht dein schönes Seahorse nichtmehr aufbauen. Das du immer 100 Antworten brauchst bist du endlich mal kapierst das es Null sinn hat mit einem GM, in dem Fall mehreren, zu diskutieren! Sie haben dir gezeigt wer am längeren Hebel sitzt und fertig, wenn du dann gehen möchtest geh einfach, aber es nervt wenn du hier jetzt wieder Tagelang rumheulst! ES BRINGT DIR NIX! So ich hoffe mal das war klar und deutlich!
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Samantha Meryadeles wrote:I haven't ignored it. the server logs show that. i took part in the quest since the first moment i noticed the fire. there was no reason for me believing that thw guy with the insurance was a questchar nor the start of a quest. and as you can see in the log, my char HASN'T ignored the sound of fire. or what do you think means "Wed May 16 00:47:32 2007: Samantha Meryadeles(232534793) whispers: *she frowns as she hears the sound of a fire*

with which time works the server? GMT? MEZ? on my clock it was 1:30 or 1:47.

and i took part. i wont say it again. there was nothing ignored. there was no reason to see the man at the door as quest. as soon as she noticed, and as soon as i noticed, that her house burns she immediatelly headed down after i wrote the sentences., instead of running down without any roleplay.


you try to twist the truth...you try to make it look like i had aaaaall time of the world and like i had enough time to rescue the seahorse. but that is simply not true. i had 30 seconds time from the first sound of a campfire to run down and starting to put the flames out. but that would need me to know what will happen., to know that the fire will spread like that, to know that i have NO time for roleplay. to know that, 30 seconds after the sound of a campfire, the house will be burning. but all that i didnt know. and i couldn't know it.


again, there was zero chance for me.



And manron, i paid with samantha 600 silvers to rebuilt it from an inn into a mansion. that is, i believe so, around the same amount of silver which Thomas paid to own the seahorse inn. btw. you can't like me because your dwarven char had problems with samantha. because he is an annoying, insulting and polemic char who can't accept any authorities. and thats the reason you hate me ooc aswell. there is no need to hide that. it is obvious. it is the same like with po dusty bottoms.


btw. lennier told me the repair costs 150 silver PLUS the materials which will be needed. which will be aswell around 80-100 silver. so not 100 silver like martin said earlier. and i thought you know everything. and that is the price halfed. so it would originally cost 300 silver plus the amount of materials needed.
but it is not the money that buggers me really. it is WHAT happened. that it was unfair, wrong and not stopable.
I recently heard about a woman. This woman had their house burn down. Lost everything she had. Was it fair, no? I bet she didn't go yelling and complaining to her god(of choice). Be great full you have the money to rebuild your house in some game. You CLEARLY can see you are not some victim of choice in the game. No one is out to get you.
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Samantha Meryadeles wrote:I haven't ignored it. the server logs show that. i took part in the quest since the first moment i noticed the fire. there was no reason for me believing that thw guy with the insurance was a questchar nor the start of a quest. and as you can see in the log, my char HASN'T ignored the sound of fire. or what do you think means "Wed May 16 00:47:32 2007: Samantha Meryadeles(232534793) whispers: *she frowns as she hears the sound of a fire*
Sorry, but in case your character is that foolish, it deserves that the Seahorse Inn burned down. If your character ignores due impressive roleplay all warnings, its just sadly. Sorry.
Samantha Meryadeles wrote:with which time works the server? GMT? MEZ? on my clock it was 1:30 or 1:47.
Server runs on GMT+1 or MEZ. So i think the same time zone as you are living in.
Samantha Meryadeles wrote:and i took part. i wont say it again. there was nothing ignored. there was no reason to see the man at the door as quest.
That really makes me laughting. There is never a reason that any quest character that does not have a special race is a quest character. If you handle any character different because you think its a quest, thats plain OOC influence that is by the rules forbidden.
Samantha Meryadeles wrote:as soon as she noticed, and as soon as i noticed, that her house burns she immediatelly headed down after i wrote the sentences., instead of running down without any roleplay.
And immediatelly is 1 minute and 13 seconds for you? Not for me, sorry ;)

Samantha Meryadeles wrote:you try to twist the truth...you try to make it look like i had aaaaall time of the world and like i had enough time to rescue the seahorse. but that is simply not true.
Indeed its not true. The point is that you had NOT all the time but you took all the time. Else you would have been able to put the fire out.
Samantha Meryadeles wrote:i had 30 seconds time from the first sound of a campfire to run down and starting to put the flames out.
I think if it took you 30 seconds and aboth to go down there, there would have been a good chance to put it out. Since the fire is to keep under controll easily after it spreaded once. Expecially by a mage.

By the way, according to your amazing magic knowledge it was a real misstake to use the area spell to put the fire out. I doubt you hitted really lots of flames, so the single pointed spell that destroys such a flame in 1 or 2 hits and needs much less mana then a area spell would be more effective. But i'm sure you knew that and you only used the area spell because your character wasn't able to think clearly because of the smoke.

Nitram :D
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life is unfair. a game shouldn't be. we don't play a game to have there the same unfairness we have to experience in life already.


nitram...again you proof that you have no knowledge of the things...it is shocking how few you understand from the game you script.


it took me 73 seconds until the first spell was casted. that is not much time for noticing the fire, to write the sentences, to run down, write again a roleplay sentence, and cast the first spell. it is NOT much time. logic should tell you that.

And it is even more stupid to say i should have used the single spell. i would have needed 2 spells for 1 flame. down there were 10-20 . even CONCIDERING i can cast 1 spell in each second, it would have took me 20-40 seconds to destroy all flames. 20-40 seconds. since for 10-20 flames i would have needed 20-40 spells to put them off. but noone can cast a spell each second. and how much does it take to spread? 30 seconds? open the magebook, click on two runes, move to one flame, click the flame, cast the spell, open the mage book again, click two runes, target the flames. every idiot knows that this takes good 3 second for each spell. maybe even more. and the flames WERE gone inside the building. but woosh, they were back the next moment. twice as much as before.

comeone...you really write alot of crap there. do you pretend to be so ignorant for the facts and so incompetent? or are you really like that? can you please try to understand the facts? and to inerpret them correct?
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Post by Juniper Onyx »

Hey, not to change the subject here, but....

Wasn't PO Stephen Rothman perma banned for 'pissing off' the Devs, especially Nitram?

Calling them all Liars and such is kinda Stupid Patric. You should leave before you are banned too.

Once again.....CAN WE PLEASE END THIS THREAD??????????

PLEASE!!!!!!!!

PS ~ Having to read all this 'flaming', my eyes are starting to bleed!!!!!
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Samantha Meryadeles wrote:life is unfair. a game shouldn't be. we don't play a game to have there the same unfairness we have to experience in life already.


nitram...again you proof that you have no knowledge of the things...it is shocking how few you understand from the game you script.


it took me 73 seconds until the first spell was casted. that is not much time for noticing the fire, to write the sentences, to run down, write again a roleplay sentence, and cast the first spell. it is NOT much time. logic should tell you that.

And it is even more stupid to say i should have used the single spell. i would have needed 2 spells for 1 flame. down there were 10-20 . even CONCIDERING i can cast 1 spell in each second, it would have took me 20-40 seconds to destroy all flames. 20-40 seconds. since for 10-20 flames i would have needed 20-40 spells to put them off. but noone can cast a spell each second. and how much does it take to spread? 30 seconds? open the magebook, click on two runes, move to one flame, click the flame, cast the spell, open the mage book again, click two runes, target the flames. every idiot knows that this takes good 3 second for each spell. maybe even more. and the flames WERE gone inside the building. but woosh, they were back the next moment. twice as much as before.

comeone...you really write alot of crap there. do you pretend to be so ignorant for the facts and so incompetent? or are you really like that? can you please try to understand the facts? and to inerpret them correct?
You are going to far, you won't get your house back free. You will not solve anything by any more complaining. However, You WILL get over it.
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Post by Dantagon Marescot »

Is this fight really still going on?

Look, there is no reason that you HAD to use a players house. As people have said why not use another building and turn it into a quest to figure out who started the fire? And why did you have to do it when most a majority of people are off-line? Why not introduce this at a time when more people are around so it could have feasibly been put out? If you knew that players would respond this way, then why did you do it?

Juniper, shut the hell up. When in rome, do as the romans... oh don't give me that! You are an adult and you should act like one. When surrounded by idiots don't be one.

Kent, I am pretty sure the woman did whine to what ever god or goddess she follows. Do you really think she looked at her house and went "shit happens... oh well." If someone came and burned your house down would you stand there and shrug your shoulders? No! You'd be upset, angry, and probably even wondering 'why me?"

Patic. I'll make this plain and simple. If you think they really did this to remove you from the game then fight back! If you seriously think that you are going to let them win then there is no point in threatening Martin about how much more of a man you are than him. So get YOUR ass in game for the lich quest tommarow and give all those who want you gone the middle finger and say "F*** no I am not leaving!"

And if you don't... Well... I'll make sure you attend the next German Illa-treffen in Lederhosen! :twisted: :wink:
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Samantha Meryadeles wrote:life is unfair. a game shouldn't be. we don't play a game to have there the same unfairness we have to experience in life already.
You exist right? This game exists right? You play the game, the game is part of life, and life is unfair. So therefore the game is unfair. I guess maybe the real problem is rejecting reality, thats the only thing I can think of.
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Post by Korm Kormsen »

stop this!


this will never be solved by discussion.

first martin and villarion were accused of lieing,
then nitram was accused too.
if the other staff members will say, that the server logs show, that martin and villarion did not lie, they will be accused too.

just because patric allready decided, that everybody, who does not agree with him is lieing.

we all know by experience, that patric can not accept, that others might be right, when they do not agree with him.

so, my suggestion to the staff:
make one offer to patrik, to either
accept a bargain price for restauration of samantha's house (let's say 200 silver, no materials)
or
to be banned from game and forum.

korm

ps: and close this thread, please
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The second option would require a lot less efforts and be much more fruitful to the game ( I bet banning Patric would raise the number of player of at least 20% in the first week ).
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Post by Azel Hyrthen »

And it's comments like that, that started this flame war in the first place. I agree the topic needs to be closed. The action done, no matter what the reasoning behind it was in poor taste and the parties involved in the action, no doubt knew well or are Far smart enough to figure out that the reaction Patric would have would be this or something similar.

Anyone whom has played illarion long enough could have easily figured that out. The fact that it was done regardless of this i choose to make no comment on at the moment, but in all honesty, this conversation has gotten far to personal and completely counter productive.
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Post by Korm Kormsen »

arameh,

i think similar.
but the staff should decide to be fair.
(well, as an afterthought, the first option should include, to stop complaining about the fire...)
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Post by Juniper Onyx »

Gods!

My Eyes are bleeding and,
Now my head's about to explode!!!!

Please stop this thread!
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Post by Dantagon Marescot »

Quit your moaning, Juniper. They can't hear you in Germany where it is 5 am. Arien is sleeping. Be nice to him once in a while. He pwns noobs for us.
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Juniper Onyx wrote:Gods!

My Eyes are bleeding
Close them ;) ...and maybe stop reading this thread? <.<
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Post by Avalyon el'Hattarr »

I am reading this thread and what can I say..? It sickens me to see so much shit on my screen.

You people forget one thing: playing this game is not your RIGHT is your PRIVILEDGE. Do you have the slightest idea of the huge amount of work put in this game by a handfull of people? Of course not, you're too busy being egocentric.

I'd say more now, but I am really not in the mood to prove a lot of people that they eat shit at this time in the morning.

Elite players of Illarion, pfff
You should be ashamed of yourselves.

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I recently heard about a woman. This woman had their house burn down. Lost everything she had. Was it fair, no? I bet she didn't go yelling and complaining to her god(of choice). Be great full you have the money to rebuild your house in some game. You CLEARLY can see you are not some victim of choice in the game. No one is out to get you.
Come on, everyone does that... :P

Bye Galim!
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Post by Magdha Tiefenerz »

Hello!

Mind your words Marius! Insulting people will help nobody. You can be assured that the players appreciate the work that has been done. But however big the effort of the staff might be it will never, and I mean never, be an excuse for picking on someone. Yes, it is a privilege to play this game but this does not grant any staff member the right to misuse any power he has.

With kind regards
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Post by Avalyon el'Hattarr »

Last time I checked this is was a free game. If you want rights go play WoW or something. While you are here, play by the tune that the people that worked their ass off for you to have a nice evening in front of your PC, sing.
Don't like it, just quit, but don't post shit so that after a hard day, insted of having a nice quiet time, I have to read.

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The server is running 1 hour behind Patrics time zone, because I have the same times as the server, and I live in the UK, the server is running gmt+1, the same as British Summer Time, Germany runs of GMT+2 at the moment.
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Tanaki wrote:The server is running 1 hour behind Patrics time zone, because I have the same times as the server, and I live in the UK, the server is running gmt+1, the same as British Summer Time, Germany runs of GMT+2 at the moment.
I beleive patric is German
And the server is in austria...

They use the same timezone

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Tanaki wrote:The server is running 1 hour behind Patrics time zone, because I have the same times as the server, and I live in the UK, the server is running gmt+1, the same as British Summer Time, Germany runs of GMT+2 at the moment.
That's not true and you have no way to check server time.
I have, and I just started a campfire some minutes ago. That reads:
Fri May 18 10:31:07 2007: Ciryon started fire at -459/-457/0

It's now 10:37 in Austria and in Germany. The server is running at GMT+2 currently. (and it was at the incident, which is natural, as I came home at 00:25 that day, as always, and then we logged into Illarion)

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Samantha Meryadeles wrote:Post subject: I quit this game

Post content: Yes, you heard right, I stop playing illarion, with all my chars. and i wont return. ...
Almost every poster is getting sidetracked. Sam announced to quit in his post subject. No talk about reasons, backgrounds etc. were questioned by the subject.

So I'll close this thread.


Sam, if you're serious to leave, fare well - if not you're welcome, but be able to cope with the situation like an adult.
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