Everything about Illarion that fits nowhere else. / Alles über Illarion was inhaltlich in kein anderes Board passt.
No reason for her to quit.Qeewee wrote:I have seen forced rape happen IG , and the player of the character raped was so upset about how to RP her character after this, that she stopped playing illarion for a while, so nothing good comes out of rape IG IMO.
Wir sprechen in den Spielregeln von Schilderungen die im Spiel geschehen. Das macht zweifelsohne klar, dass das ausspielen jeglicher Gewalt, jeglichen Sex oder eben beidem zusammen verboten ist. Das es jedoch verboten wäre, dass sich zwei Spieler darauf einigen, das ihre Chars gerade Sex hatten, wäre mir neu – wenn nicht hat Illarion eine erstaunliche Anzahl jungfräulicher Empfängnisse erlebt.Spielregeln wrote: Gewalt und nicht jugendfreie Darstellungen
Gewaltverherrlichende, brutale, perverse oder sexuelle Schilderungen sind im Spiel strengstens verboten. Außerdem dürfen durch alle Schilderungen im Spiel die Wertvorstellungen und moralischen Grundsätze aller beteiligten Spieler und zufälliger Zuhörer nicht verletzt werden.
2 CMs too! And 2 former GMs! And still it continues!Ereaes wrote:.....maybe i shouldn't have cut off his finger then.... . But i agree with ballsy Nalzy(Nalzaxx). And i cannot believe that this thread is still going on, especially after...2 GMs posted on it?
I enjoyed the rp. Gives Kearun some character.Ereaes wrote:.....maybe i shouldn't have cut off his finger then.... . But i agree with ballsy Nalzy(Nalzaxx). And i cannot believe that this thread is still going on, especially after...2 GMs posted on it?
Most epic FAIL ever.Jupiter wrote:In this case, it was her own fault.Qeewee wrote:I have seen forced rape happen IG...
I don't play right now, but I'd like to point out that strictly speaking this is not exactly true, is it? For instance, my character had another character murdered in the good old fashioned way (lure the victim out, get a henchman to kill him & dispose of the body, get a staffer to rumour it). Cherga's realm and whatnot, but the whole point of the excercise was to permanently remove a character who stood in the way of progress and nice things, and to solve a certain ooc issue surrounding that character - and it worked fine too! For what it's worth, I don't think there's any point in pretending that there wouldn't be an IG differentation between "clouding" and "RP-permadeath" of someone from the character point of view.Estralis Seborian wrote:Just a minor sidenote: "Death" in the world Illarion is something totally different than IRL. You know, we have those not-so-yellow-any-more crosses? And that ghost-state, known as "getting clouded"? And that afterlife thingy, called Cherga's realm? So, getting beaten up in the world of Illarion has a totally different meaning to the characters than it has to a person IRL.
Damien wrote:There is no "all go", even if both players agree beforehand. I think the rules alone make this clear: The actions of a rape are not to be rped ingame. When both agree, it just means that the chars can state that char a is a rape victim of char b, and can rp the consequences.
Concerning law stuff, there is not much difference between writing / showing a sexual - oriented text or a graphic to a minor, both counts as bringing minors in contact with non-minor-content, and both is punishable by law. That's The reason why cybering and excessive violence are forbidden and that also accounts for all kind of rape-oriented rp.
If one allowed such actions ingame, the result would be that illarion would have to be made for grownups only (18 in europe, possibly 21 in other countries) and had to work with a fail-safe age verification system. Age verification systems that don't cost money would end up with something like having players sending in a photocopy of their passports while waving into a webcam chat thing for a staff person to compare pictures and date.
The other alternative would be living with the risc that some day the game gets closed because the association cannot afford lawyer costs in case someone sues. While big companies like those of Second Life can afford and win such lawsuits, a small non-profit organisation like illarion can't.
It's legally risky, it could harm people, it's impolite to females, it's bad taste, it's uncreative, and it lacks STYLE.
Djironnyma wrote:its about law
if we dont forbide anything R rated we need a age verification, and if we would have on illarion would die in less than a year, not only that we have many players which arent adult, we would also get nearly no new pkayers since a verification system make a new account system to complicate.