Different Cuts of Gems

Kragmar · Post by **Kragmar** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 4:54 am

Can we have gems of different sizes and cuts? Not all gems are the same after all. When we dig a gem out of the ground, it could be one of several different sizes (with the largest being the most rare of course.) Then a gem cutter could choose what style they wanted to cut the gem in. A quick search on google came up with the following cuts:

Round - round
Pear - pear shaped, like the fruit
Emerald - square with angled edges
Princess - I can't be sure, but it looked squarish with a twist in the middle
Radiant - about the same as princess, but with slightly rounded corners
Oval - oval
Triangle - triangle
Heart - heart
Marquis - an oval pointed at both ends

If anyone knows more about gems, feel free to give more accurate descriptions and a wider variety of cuts that we could use.

On a related note, could goldsmiths create a necklace with gems in it? It could be worn in the amulet spot. It doesn't have to have any special properties, it'd just be something to add variety.

Kragmar

Elaralith · Post by **Elaralith** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 5:12 am

What would be the point of differently shaped gems? Can you not use your imagination on this small technicality?
I know that new items for implementation are already planned...if you want goldsmith's to be able to make necklaces why don't you make the graphic for the necklace and post it in the Graphics Board? Doing so will raise the chances of its implementation.

Kragmar · Post by **Kragmar** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 5:35 am

The point? Why does there have to be a point? Some things would just be nice for a little variety, not necessarily because they affect any particular skill or stat. Variety makes the game just a little more interesting. Sure I can RP it, and I do. Having it in game would just be an added advantage. That's why I posted the suggestion here.

I would create the graphic for a necklace, but I don't know how.

Drogla · Post by **Drogla** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 5:50 am

as an example, i belive blue stone increases your mana? so, if you get a large bluestone you can get a different cut. depending on the cut changes the amount of mana you get. if yiou have a larg gem and cut the ston bad you will jsut get back a smaller gem so you can try again, jsut for a smaller, lesser cut.
something like this?

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 6:05 am

yes i had an idea of making a small/medium/big sized gemstones, i think this is a good idea but not quite so many cuts. maybe like 5 cuts or so would be adequate. also it might be required to have two nuggets to make say a big gemstone ring? i think this would help the jewalry business alot and i like luxery items. (cant wait for luxery points)

Sir Gannon · Post by **Sir Gannon** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 6:09 am

Yeah but you wouldnt be able to SEE these luxury points now would you. Hahaha

Grishnak Bloodlust · Post by **Grishnak Bloodlust** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 7:29 pm

I was going to suggest a very similar point. Different cuts could be harder and therefore make the gem more expensive, there is a point. Then I could buy a ring with the most expensive gem on it from the best goldsmither ... not for me though

Burin · Post by **Burin** » Wed Mar 19, 2003 5:42 pm

I have been a goldsmith for a very long time. I also wish there would be more gems, and such. I think it woulden't be a bad idea.

Kragmar · Post by **Kragmar** » Wed Mar 19, 2003 6:29 pm

Would anybody really mind if there weren't graphics for every cut? I'm not working on this or anything, so don't get that impression. I've just been thinking about how to make it a little easier to implement (and therefore more likely.) I say only have graphics for every size and gem. If you wanted to know the cut, you would have to click on it. When you clicked on it it would say:

A [size], [cut] cut, [gem] ring
ex. A large, pear cut, diamond ring
ex. A large, marquis cut, topaz ring

I say this because there are 7 types of gems, I listed 9 cuts, and there would be mutliple sizes. If there were five sizes and we used all nine cuts, that would be 315 graphcs, just for rings. Not likely to happen. Under these circumstance, this idea would cut the number of graphics to 35, 7 of which are already created (the rings already ingame.) This would only leave 28 new graphics to be done. Granted that's still alot, but much more doable than 315.

@Drogla - No, I think you misunderstood what I meant. A cut is not dependant on the size. They are completely separate. A cut is the shape of the gem after you cut it. It can be round, square, etc. No cut is good or bad (in real life, some are considered more beautiful than others for particular uses, but that wouldn't matter in the game,) but some cuts are harder to do than others. If you mess up a cut, you lose the entire gem, just like you do now, not get a smaller one back. And please type a little more accurately Drogla. It's hard to understand what you're saying if your typing is sloppy

Kragmar

Drague · Post by **Drague** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 3:16 pm

also, there is supposed to be a "luxus-status" (dont know how its named correctly

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implented in the game later.This could also be good for that.
For example, it increases this status if you wear rings/necklace etc.
and the bigger gems are implented the more it increases this.
Of course, they'd have to break some time...

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Sat Mar 22, 2003 12:13 am

why would you need a ring to break? and if it did you better be able to repair it!

Burin · Post by **Burin** » Mon Mar 24, 2003 12:48 am

Heh, it doesn't sound like a bad idea. However, I don't see why it should be added right away. At the rate it is now is just fine. But also, very hard.

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Sun Dec 07, 2003 2:11 am

I relize this topic is old, real old, however I happend apon an excellent site for gemcutting, it has hundreds of plans for different cuts. It has the top and side veiw of every cut. Using splines would probobly be the easier way than starting with a primitive.

http://www.faceters.com/books/index.shtml

The Returner · Post by **The Returner** » Sun Dec 07, 2003 2:49 am

a) martin closed the GFX bored because his ego got to big for his britches

b) more rings and gold smithed items, types of gems, ect are a good idea, but just can be RP'ed until after the next couple of technical (not graphical, technical) updates.

Jori · Post by **Jori** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 2:39 pm

If different sizes are implemented, would a large bluestone ring give you a higher amount of extra mana than a small bluestone ring would?