GMT has changed!!!

AlexRose · Post by **AlexRose** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:31 am

Greenwich mean time. One of the most annoying things possible.

Right there's a post in the guild board where Dji's suggested GMT is at London; but I thought now we're at GMT+1 so I went on a site and found this:

In the European Union, Summer Time begins and ends at 1:00 a.m. Universal Time (Greenwich Mean Time). It begins the last Sunday in March and ends the last Sunday in October. In the EU, all time zones change at the same moment.

Which means we're at GMT+1 I think...

But then when the changeover happens; no doubt all the quests'll get screwed up because 50% of the people will forget it's changed so can someone please just sticky a topic with the current GMT's on because I'm officially confused.

Misjbar · Post by **Misjbar** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:43 am

If everyone just keeps working with the "old" everything will just be fine.

Adano Eles · Post by **Adano Eles** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:44 am

http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/

Thorvald · Post by **Thorvald** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:21 pm

Adano Eles wrote:http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/

Exactly THAT is the problem.

I've adjusted the time of the quest along with this time, in the believe that I'm in the GMT+2.
Now after the quest I was speaking to a player who lives in England and at 1 am, I ask him: "It's 11 pm for you now, right?"
And he replies with: "No, it's 12 pm"

and I was like: "Aren't you GMT?"
And he said, he is.

...

AlexRose · Post by **AlexRose** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:22 pm

I knew I was right.

It's just the magic academy board confused the hell out of me.

Samantha Meryadeles · Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:26 pm

its time we make an illarion own time.

Illarion Server Time = IST

The ingame clock and a clock in the forum shows the time which is currently exactly there where the server stands.

if someone makes than a date for a meeting he uses that IST. Everyone who looks than at the forum clock can see how far he is away from IST, and can see much better when the meeting will be

Thorvald · Post by **Thorvald** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:31 pm

Well, to be honest. I don't get it.

GMT =/= The time that England has current.y

According to the website, they have British Summer Time now. That means that they are GMT +1
And CET = GMT+2

... but only til 29th october.
Then the British Summer Time is GMT again.

AlexRose · Post by **AlexRose** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:35 pm

But England is at GMT+1.

I agree with Patric.

I declare that starting October 29th, GMT will be scrapped and replaced for IST which is basically this except never goes back or forward.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... imized.png

Who's with me?

AlexRose · Post by **AlexRose** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:47 pm

Here we are.

If you're not centred on a line you adopt the time on the nearest line.

Misjbar · Post by **Misjbar** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:08 pm

Most definately not. This is highly confusing, as I would suddenly become "IST" while I am "IST+1". Seriously Alex, don't confuzzle the Illa population even more.

Samantha Meryadeles · Post by **Samantha Meryadeles** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:17 pm

what the point behind my idea was is that we have a clock on the homepage for example which shows the IST. the illarion server time. and we use that clock for any dates. for example, we have IST 16:00. now i say i make tomorrow a meeting at 20:00 IST. everyone who wants now to now when that is looks at the clock on the page showing the current IST. for him IST 16:00 is 8 am, he knows now 20 IST is for him 12 pm.

he has no problem with any +1 or -1 counting, summer or winter time. he simply looks at the IST and compares with his own current time

Nalzaxx · Post by **Nalzaxx** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:17 pm

GMT doesn't change either...

GMT is 11:22

Britain is on daylight saving and thus GMT+1

Britain is 12:22

France is on daylight saving to and thus GMT+2

France is 13:22

Germany is also on daylight saving and thus GMT+3

Germany is 14:22

All three countires change daylight saving at the same time therefore after 29th October.

Britain is GMT + 0

France is GMT + 1

Germany is GMT + 2

The countries time is always the same amount away from each other. However differs from the time away from GMT.

Adano Eles · Post by **Adano Eles** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:21 pm

You can also just use the link I posted for your reference on whem a quest will start...

Meriel Pelith · Post by **Meriel Pelith** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:22 pm

Nalzaxx wrote: Germany is also on daylight saving and thus GMT+3

Germany is 14:22

ah ah, nonsense.

We are GMT+2 on daylight saving
We are GMT +1 without daylight saving.

We are never GMT+3

Korm Kormsen · Post by **Korm Kormsen** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:31 pm

alex123,

i like the idea with an illarion time.

but please revise your worldmap's times.

my standard time now is 07:38. i'm on 60° west.
so i suppose GMT should be at 12:38 now.
therefor IST should be 13:38. (if the server is in germany)

you put my line (60° west) for IST -2...
(seemingly you divided 360° in just 12 hours.)

korm

edit: actually my time is 08:38. but thats summer time. an i did not want to confuse you schoolkids...

AlexRose · Post by **AlexRose** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:54 pm

Korm Kormsen wrote:alex123,

i like the idea with an illarion time.

but please revise your worldmap's times.

my standard time now is 07:38. i'm on 60° west.
so i suppose GMT should be at 12:38 now.
therefor IST should be 13:38. (if the server is in germany)

you put my line (60° west) for IST -2...
(seemingly you divided 360° in just 12 hours.)

korm

edit: actually my time is 08:38. but thats summer time. an i did not want to confuse you schoolkids...

Erm... it was a joke.

Why do you think I added NST and I did it so shoddily???

Aurora · Post by **Aurora** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:04 pm

Samantha Meryadeles wrote:what the point behind my idea was is that we have a clock on the homepage for example which shows the IST. the illarion server time. and we use that clock for any dates. for example, we have IST 16:00. now i say i make tomorrow a meeting at 20:00 IST. everyone who wants now to now when that is looks at the clock on the page showing the current IST. for him IST 16:00 is 8 am, he knows now 20 IST is for him 12 pm.

he has no problem with any +1 or -1 counting, summer or winter time. he simply looks at the IST and compares with his own current time

well, I would appreciate that solution

AlexRose · Post by **AlexRose** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:11 pm

Yeah I agree with that.

Miklorius · Post by **Miklorius** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:15 pm

I like the idea of a global Illarion Server Time (IST)!

I suggest to make the normal Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) to our IST, which is the military "Zulu time" which is normal GMT (we shouldn't use daylight saving).

So, if I am correct, IST (UTC) would be now ~12:20 (pm) which is ~14:20 in Germany (UTC/GMT/CET+2 because of daylight saving).

PS: But do not replace the "normal" watch inside the client.

Djironnyma · Post by **Djironnyma** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:34 pm

i m real confused. i ever think gmt is the time in london becouse greenwitch is near london... uhm..... yeah we need a servertime or something else

Adano Eles · Post by **Adano Eles** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:40 pm

The UK has summer time too. It's GMT in winter, but GMT+1 in summer.

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:24 pm

As patric said, and me before him and a few hundred times earlier.

Someone give us a standard time, and we'll work with it.. use the server time if needs be.. simple.

Korm Kormsen · Post by **Korm Kormsen** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:37 pm

Erm... it was a joke.

Why do you think I added NST and I did it so shoddily???

öhhhh.... a joke.... öhhhh....

i ignore the meaning of "NST" (new student time???)

you being from one of these behind the time timezones, where nobody can count till 24... and being pupil of a public school....
why should i doubt your seriousness?

in a such a heterogenous enviroment, you should not try to make sophistikated jokes.

why dont you just ask for the difference of a lady going into a church and a lady stepping out of a bath, or something similar?

AlexRose · Post by **AlexRose** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:54 pm

Korm Kormsen wrote:
Erm... it was a joke.

Why do you think I added NST and I did it so shoddily???
öhhhh.... a joke.... öhhhh....

i ignore the meaning of "NST" (new student time???)

you being from one of these behind the time timezones, where nobody can count till 24... and being pupil of a public school....
why should i doubt your seriousness?

in a such a heterogenous enviroment, you should not try to make sophistikated jokes.

why dont you just ask for the difference of a lady going into a church and a lady stepping out of a bath, or something similar?

At the top I wrote rather sarcastically

"Illarion server time and... not... server time..."

The term "Public school" is a little odd to me.
It effectively means the same as "Private school" but sounds as if 'tis an opposite.

Ah well; another mystery of the English language.

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:55 pm

Korm Kormsen wrote:why dont you just ask for the difference of a lady going into a church and a lady stepping out of a bath, or something similar?

O_O he already knows all the vulgar jokes!

Miklorius · Post by **Miklorius** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:04 pm

Adano Eles wrote:The UK has summer time too. It's GMT in winter, but GMT+1 in summer.

That is a lie! There is no summer in Great Britain!

IST: ~17:12

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:29 pm

So where does warm rain come from eh?

Asesino · Post by **Asesino** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:36 pm

Hadrian_Abela wrote:So where does warm rain come from eh?

you don't wanna know

Korm Kormsen · Post by **Korm Kormsen** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:52 pm

O_O he already knows all the vulgar jokes!

oh! you poor boys got just one?

korm
(ah, i forgot, the other one about the fishers and the mermaid is scottish...)

swish1 · Post by **swish1** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:02 pm

If USA and want to know GMT Time here.
Scroll down and click state.

For London want to know GMT Time
here.

For England (GMT +1)want to know GMT Time
here.

UK= Scott land and Northern Ireland, Wales and England.
UK Time
here.

The entire European Union, (EU) time. Scroll down and pick you country here.

Hopefully the links work and this sorts out problems.