Magic Discussion

Nalzaxx · Post by **Nalzaxx** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:16 am

Aye, everyone knows you're meant to go outside of town to PG your mage skills.

Djironnyma · Post by **Djironnyma** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:16 am

Retlak i can only speak for my char, but he just ignore you outside the orders land.... why? look into a mirror

Samantha Meryadeles · Post by **Samantha Meryadeles** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:17 am

report something like that. report everyone who uses ancient that foolish

Lance Thunnigan · Post by **Lance Thunnigan** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:17 am

Ancient is also a spoken tongue y'know. People CAN speak it. There may be noobs who'll report everyone who uses the Ancient tongue.

Jalen Noel · Post by **Jalen Noel** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:18 am

[quote="Samantha Meryadeles"]enviousness[/quote]

I've gotta' ask... is that a word? Wouldn't it just be "envy" ?

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:19 am

Fooser wrote:Magic should be better. But yeah, you can argue how much or how little it should be. Right now I don't see how it is too overpowered. There are some really obnoxious spells like the moving ones and I don't know why they even put them in, but oh well.

Want some? 1. Fireballs removing half healt, that can be shot each 1.5 seconds or so(so 3 to 5 seconds and "return to the yellow cross to get resurrected").
2. The fine paralize spell, very fun, I guess it can last 5 seconds with high skill so then you have time to get burnt by fireballs.
3. Well, the magic resistance skill is bugged, I doubt it will be fixed any soon.
4. Well they dont need to buy portals, they can teleport in close and long distances, raising their skill freely.
5. They can make thousands of cakes and sell them, I bought around 4000 coppers of food in all from the same mage.
6. They can train their skill anywhere, anytime.
7. They can brag that their characters are intelligent and that they are the best RPers.
8. They can actually kill someone when they want to, as opposite to 10 minute chases of warriors they can just cast fireballs and poof.
9. Well they dont need to wear any equipment usually, thye dont need to buy weapons else than wands that can last them forever.
10. Im pretty sure they can even beat warriors in close distance, when the warriors hit they get stuck up to 5 seconds, thats enought so the mage stand back, cast a flame, and watch the show.

*breaths*

Lance Thunnigan · Post by **Lance Thunnigan** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:19 am

It's a word.

The act of being Envious.

xBaurusx · Post by **xBaurusx** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:20 am

Arameh... life aint fair.. get over it.

I feel powerful now.

Lance Thunnigan · Post by **Lance Thunnigan** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:21 am

xBaurusx wrote:Arameh... life aint fair.. get over it.

I agree.

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:22 am

Oh then at least some peopels admit it aint fair.

Lance Thunnigan · Post by **Lance Thunnigan** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:23 am

He's talking about life.

Retlak · Post by **Retlak** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:23 am

It seems that when Arameh makes a good point which the mage chars cannot fight against they just tell him to go away

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:23 am

Yeah, as a comparison to illarion, or he could as well have posted it in "what are you thinking"

Lance Thunnigan · Post by **Lance Thunnigan** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:23 am

I only saw him whining that they're too Uber and can skill-up freely.

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:24 am

Lance Thunnigan wrote:I only saw him whining that they're too Uber and can skill-up freely.

Thats a point like he said.

xBaurusx · Post by **xBaurusx** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:24 am

Edit again: nvm..

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:25 am

xBaurusx wrote:Hye i didnt say go away.. i said that just because one thing isnt fair.. doesnt mean it has to be fixed.. i mean my computer has a crack on the screen.. its been there for 2 yaers... have i fixed it.. no will i fix it?... no.

Edit: btw this all crumbles into the life aint fair statment.

The thing is no one gives a smile about your computer. But tons of peoples plays illarion

xBaurusx · Post by **xBaurusx** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:25 am

thats why i eddited it and was going to delete it.. damn you and your quoting ways.

Thariel Feuersturm · Post by **Thariel Feuersturm** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:26 am

i dont know, whats your problem. Can any mage stand two arrows? You can kill a mage easily.

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:26 am

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:26 am

So what Arameh? I don't think the complete ignoring of background story and religion is fair. It isn't fair to the people who have worked on it, and it isn't really fair for people who try to stay within the bounds. But shit happens, right?

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:27 am

Hmm? Seriosuly dont know what youre talking about.

Retlak · Post by **Retlak** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:28 am

Why don't we ask a mage to find out, they know everything.

I am going to bed now which means no more spam from me, thank you good night.

Lance Thunnigan · Post by **Lance Thunnigan** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:28 am

Why don't we ask a mage to find out, they know everything.

Aww, thank you Retlak. You flatter the 'Circle of Mages.'

xBaurusx · Post by **xBaurusx** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:29 am

Ok was that sarcasm.. if not.. Samantha Meryadeles is ..or was right here.

oh and lance.. and others

Lance Thunnigan · Post by **Lance Thunnigan** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:30 am

Lance = 1 NonCircleMembers = 0

Samantha Meryadeles · Post by **Samantha Meryadeles** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:30 am

Want some? 1. Fireballs removing half healt, that can be shot each 1.5 seconds or so(so 3 to 5 and "return to the yellow cross to get resurrected").

A stroke of a warrior or a arrow from a good archer takes half health of a mage down. and they can do it very quickly.

2. The fine paralize spell, very fun, I guess it can last 5 seconds with high skill so then you have time to get burnt by fireballs.

Paralyze belongs to a school noone has than just archmages. neither samantha, nor damien or djironnyma can successful cast paralyze that holds longer than their own inactivity after each spell.

3. Well, the magic resistance skill is bugged, I doubt it will be fixed any soon.

Not the problem of us mages

4. Well they dont need to buy portals, they can teleport in close and long distances, raising their skill freely.

Portals don't raise your skill. To cast a portal you have to be very good in skill AND attributes. Short distance teleportation eats alot of mana.

5. They can make thousands of cakes and sell them, I bought around 4000 coppers of food in all from the same mage.

And for what? You are the only one who buys really food. every cook can make better sells with telling his food is freshly made, and not magical casted. every cook can have agreements with mages that they sell for higher prices than him. it is a matter of roleplay. but no cook cared until now.

6. They can train their skill anywhere, anytime.

Wrong. I can't throw fireballs or flames anywhere around. We go to the magic trainingfield in the academy mostly. There I cast 4 lightnings and have to wait 20 minutes until my mana bar is full again. to cast another 4. I need good 100 before i get better 1 %. How many mummies has you to kill for 1 %?

7. They can brag that their characters are intelligent and that they are the best RPers.

Um...and? my char has intelligence 18. how much has yours? You should start to care for your owns char attributes. of COURSE a mage brags that he is smarter than a stupid warrior with intelligence 3-10 *rolls eyes*

8. They can actually kill someone when they want to, as opposite to 10 minute chases of warriors they can just cast fireballs and poof.

But we don't do. Since we are very carefully whom we teach magic. But of course you complaimed about that too. you want to see every dude casting that magic, right?

9. Well they dont need to wear any equipment usually, thye dont need to buy weapons else than wands that can last them forever.

Magerobe, magehat, diamondring, windstaff is nothing? and a windstaff breaks when you come into close combat. and of course you have NO defense with that stuff. you get pwned easily. especially with just 6 constitution

10. Im pretty sure they can even beat warriors in close distance, when the warriors hit they get stuck up to 5 seconds, thats enought so the mage stand back, cast a flame, and watch the show.

Maybe the warrior should than avoid getting into a 1 on 1 with a powerful mage? Roleplay, boy. Roleplay. Start learning more about it. of COURSE a skilled mage is more powerful than s ingle warrior. for that we have to show much more roleplay, and be more responsible.

*breaths*[/quote]

xBaurusx · Post by **xBaurusx** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:30 am

Damn Samantha!
*high fives again*

Djironnyma · Post by **Djironnyma** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:30 am

Arameh_ wrote: 1. Fireballs removing half healt, that can be shot each 1.5 seconds or so(so 3 to 5 and "return to the yellow cross to get resurrected").

->does a two-hand sword, or a good archer by a mage too

Arameh_ wrote: 2. The fine paralize spell, very fun, I guess it can last 5 seconds with high skill so then you have time to get burnt by fireballs.

->parallize to cast is dangerous, for the mage if it come back he self stand still. beside of that it is so silly to attack a mage alone, like it is silly for a mage to attacke a group of weak monsters

Arameh_ wrote: 3. Well, the magic resistance skill is bugged, I doubt it will be fixed any soon.

-> bugs are bugs, they are anywhere and has nothing tot do with the system

Arameh_ wrote: 4. Well they dont need to buy portals, they can teleport in close and long distances, raising their skill freely.

->Teleporting is one of the hardest spells there are only a few playerchars who can cast, and you forget that the most mages arent rich, they cant go in doungens, slay undeads and take copper

Arameh_ wrote: 5. They can make thousands of cakes and sell them, I bought around 4000 coppers of food in all from the same mage.

->like i have sayed, i know nobody who does, that wouldnt be only powergaming, that is against the unwritten kodex of mages to use magic not useless

Arameh_ wrote: 6. They can train their skill anywhere, anytime.

->blabla kecks.... i have sayed before you forget mana and you forget that powergaming is forbidden

Arameh_ wrote: 7. They can brag that their characters are intelligent and that they are the best RPers.

->that is only flame, no argument, no reason to answer for me

Arameh_ wrote: 8. They can actually kill someone when they want to, as opposite to 10 minute chases of warriors they can just cast fireballs and poof.

->see point 2.....

Arameh_ wrote: 9. Well they dont need to wear any equipment usually, thye dont need to buy weapons else than wands that can last them forever.

-> you dont wand to know how much rings, wands, robes, manapotions, amulets and so one i have lost since i play dji......

Arameh_ wrote: 10. Im pretty sure they can even beat warriors in close distance, when the warriors hit they get stuck up to 5 seconds, thats enought so the mage stand back, cast a flame, and watch the show.

-> a real mage need more as only much luck to life 5 sec. when a wariior attack him

xBaurusx · Post by **xBaurusx** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:31 am

And damn Dji!

*high fives*