What has happened to all the good roleplayers?

The Returner · Post by **The Returner** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 3:52 pm

No one likes a tattle tail

Sometimes leading by example don't work, sure its a great ideal, but do a forum search on "Sean-san" and you will see how much leading by example will help newbies nowadays

Caranthir the great · Post by **Caranthir the great** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 5:16 pm

It might be, that some people got bored of being skinned by some bloodthirsty newbie in every other streetcorner?

Not me though, I'll take it to the chin.

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 5:50 pm

Throw some gold one way and run the other!

Vindigan · Post by **Vindigan** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 5:55 pm

Sometimes leading by example don't work, sure its a great ideal, but do a forum search on "Sean-san" and you will see how much leading by example will help newbies nowadays

Lets not lead by some examples...

http://www.illarion.org/community/forum ... php?t=5597

http://www.illarion.org/community/forum ... .php?t=619

What happend to all the good roleplayers? They are all giving up.

The Returner · Post by **The Returner** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 8:33 pm

You getting at something Vindigan??

Vindigan · Post by **Vindigan** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 9:00 pm

The Returner wrote:You getting at something Vindigan??

Yes, learn from other peoples mistakes

Thalodos Artemetus · Post by **Thalodos Artemetus** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 9:06 pm

Gur'rok is right, there is no exciting roleplay in ilarion, From sean's description (in vindigan's link) Illarion sounded like the perfect place, i only wish i had been playing at the time.

The Returner · Post by **The Returner** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 9:41 pm

Illarion wasent perfect when I Was playing it, but it was differant......and a bit better then it is now.

And Vindigan, I dont regret mistakes I made........thats what the future is for, to heal and fix.

Willhelm von Krähenweiden · Thu Oct 30, 2003 10:13 pm

Sorry Sean,

but I don't agree. There were much more random-kills, towncasters, etc than now. We also had some freaks calling theirselfs "Hitlerrr"...

During the 2 years I was playing Illarion, there have always been hardcore-roleplayers and powergamers so there's no reason to complain about "good-old-times".

Val De Gausse · Post by **Val De Gausse** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 11:10 pm

Hey Gruk You don't need to know someones name to recgonize them. It's like seeing there face, that's how you recognize them. I have never said your name In game. I just know it is you because of your number which is like a recognition.

Grant Herion · Post by **Grant Herion** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 11:18 pm

And that is bad roleplay, because you cannot recognize anyone perfectly. For instance, there is this skater kid at school that apparently wants to beat me up, he has been dogging me for the past few days, but I cannot get a clear picture of his face in my head.
I can get a general description, his skin color, his hair but nothing behind that, not his hieght or his volume in which he speaks.

Val De Gausse · Post by **Val De Gausse** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 11:20 pm

Well you have a bad brain, I can remember anything. It just depends on the person. I have atleast seen everyone in my school about 1500 people and I know I have seen each one. It just depends on the person. And if someone kills you IG you probably would remember there face.

Grant Herion · Post by **Grant Herion** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 11:23 pm

how so? you forget how to do certain skills, so why would you remember everything? Deies, just because there are ooc advantages ingame doesn't mean you should abuse them.
Deies, how many times has you character died? Doesn't that hurt him at all? Or is he beyond that? Wouldn't you, after you got beat up, not want to walk up to the person that beat the crap outta of you and try to provoke another? If you say you would try and fight again you are lieing.
Also, Deies, roleplay something, you have died a ton, maybe since your head has been hit so many times you should get amnesia.

Hm, us experienced roleplayers should try and do some major roleplay activites... Twania is right, we should led by example.

Val De Gausse · Post by **Val De Gausse** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 11:24 pm

Hey, I posted the trial message after I met the orc. How did I forget that in a few minutes. Plus, my story will continue once I face Darlok, or If a bounty hunter gets me.

Anlan Erson · Post by **Anlan Erson** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 11:26 pm

Um sorry for inturrupting again but isnt saying that you died however many times bad rp in itself. I know the whole speal about the gods granting life again and such But come on do you think that they would do it lets say 5 times in one day? So maybe instead of being killed you were badly injured or whatever

Grant Herion · Post by **Grant Herion** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 11:28 pm

We normally refer to that ingame. But we dont ooc. Because your character has died and turned into a ghost.

Anlan Erson · Post by **Anlan Erson** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 11:28 pm

Oh okay never mind then

Val De Gausse · Post by **Val De Gausse** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 11:29 pm

But grant like you said

we shouldn't have to make graphics for every detail in this game that can easily be roleplayed.

So, just roleplay like you got hurt.

Grant Herion · Post by **Grant Herion** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 11:31 pm

I don't see your point Deies. Are you saying to not die? Or something ? Your post doesn't make any sense.

Grant Herion · Post by **Grant Herion** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 11:33 pm

Are you saying that they shouldn't have made the Ghost graphic? Because that has nothing to do with what we are talking about. But to let you know, if they didn't have a feature that forced you to stop fighting, I am sure there would many many bad roleplayers that would never stop fighting. So the feature is needed.

Back on topic now please.

Val De Gausse · Post by **Val De Gausse** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 11:36 pm

I am calling you a Hypocrite. I told you, you have a bad brain. Just because you see teh graphic, you can still roleplay lik eyou got injured or fainted. Just like there are no armour graphics, if someone describes what there whering that is what I am talking about.[/quote]

Keikan Hiru · Post by **Keikan Hiru** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 11:44 pm

Before this turns out in a fight, and one or both of you get in troubble, let me throw something in.

I haven't read all of this here, but you seem to argue about the ID numbers and thier roleplay useage.

Giving out full numbers on the RPG Board, is wrong and will not be tolerated.
Nobody can memorize a face to the last detail, and reproduce a perfect discription so that everyone else can recognize this person without any doubt.

So if you use numbers on RPG Board (I wish you wouldnt), only give out little parts of the number and leave parts blank.

Vindigan · Post by **Vindigan** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 11:57 pm

I dont think numbers should be used either, what about the characters with 4 digits? there might only be 1 character with 4*** but there are loads with 4****.

If you are looking for a character for an IG matter, like a trial, you would have to go and find witneses or ask around and see if they have seen a dwarf/human etc acting strangly. It would be a lot more fun

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 12:03 am

Oh yes, I must say that people do not seem to feel pain anymore, being beaten to death (dieing) has to hurt a little you know? Going to the cross , gettting your armor on and killing the person who killed you is obviously bad roleplay. After I have a near fatal incedent or I am killed I usually rest, eat something, rest, then sleep (log off). Someone beaten to near death DOES feel pain. Please do not use a sleezy "amulet of uberness" excuse or something to that effect. People dieing or being beaten near death then getting back up and training their skills to make up for what they lost is just plain bad rp not to mention pg.

Val De Gausse · Post by **Val De Gausse** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 1:34 am

I am not saying that to describe. But I know enough to see the orc in game and say it's him. As you see, I saw teh error adn deleted the whole number a while ago.

Pronon Palmsuger · Post by **Pronon Palmsuger** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 2:08 am

There is no roleplay among the newplayers!

When wander about the streets looking for bottles ive constantly been told just make some. As if it were that easy. Makeing bottles would take large amounts of skill, I am a druid and herb lorest and moderate tailor. But when druids can herb lore, Tailor, Make every potion perfectly, glass blow, mine and lumberjack. Its just to much. And people who are expert at these things have newer numbers than me! I can barely make a mana potion. these people never miss. You may say well you tailor and druid. I dont consider myself to be a good tailor and It takes me a while to make a load of things. Thats why I take orders.

I think a thing to stop powergameing would be broken armor. Currently the market for armor is saturated and dwarfs sell tools. If Armor could break Powergamers would need to pay loads of money and the market would decrease in saturation.

The boards are spamed to hell with auctions and posts like "Im looking for a clan that worships -----" and "Im selling this" "I need someone to sell me arrows"

Roleplay is terrible!

Konstantin K · Post by **Konstantin K** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 2:34 am

Grant, on the skater thing. You may not have a clear inage of the guy, but if you see him again, you'll sure recognize him, right?
Now, I have seen Gorock many times, and although he never told me his name, I heard of his deeds and of what he looks like (what he wears, how he moves, where to find him). K has a lot of experience in identifying people, he is a perfect spy and even his perception skills are maxed. That's why when I saw Gorock, I asked: Gorock? Are you Gru'kuk Gorock?

Elaralith · Post by **Elaralith** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 2:41 am

Grant, Gro'bul, Pronon etc. etc.

I remember when you were all terrible roleplayers.

All of you who are whining about the bad roleplay of the newbies: bequiet and do something about it. I have been skimming through this thread and I find it highly annoying.

You see bad roleplay from newbies? Teach them by example.

You see a real PGer? Report them to the illarion staff and don't whine about it on the General Board.

Save some of us from the annoyance that such whinings inevitably bring.
Thank you

-Elaralith

Hermie · Post by **Hermie** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 2:48 am

Now, I have seen Gorock many times

Have you seen his face, or his helmet? That is the question. If you can't see someone's face, how do you recognise him? Of course you dont know if he is wearing a helmet or not in game, but if he roleplayed wearing a helmet (using #me's or whatever) then it is unacceptable to recognise him. Of course if it isn't roleplayed you dont know but if the GM's say you don't recognise someone by number .. you don't recognise someone by number, even if it is frustrating.

Salathe · Post by **Salathe** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 3:38 am

before the account system there was alot of ingame RP, now there isnt. The account system SHOULD work, but for some stupid reason it doesnt.
People cant really be excited about RP'ing in illarion because they dont really know what its like. I remember before the account system people would log on for the first time and be as OOC as possible, but once they get the drift of the game they were fine. They come in expecting a runescape type game since they didnt read the site, and they walk around saying some stupid OOC crap, then another player throws them a bone and tells that this is a roleplaying game, that OOC guy thinks for a second then realizes... "hey... that sounds kinda cool" then he follows the rules from now on so he can RP.

What happens now is, that ooc guy clicks the "create" button and he gets a message that says "apply for an account before you can play" alot of people dont know the full capacity of illarion so they just close the window and go look at porn. They need to see the game before they really get into it

maybe we should have a 3 day trial, that would work... wouldnt it?