Faction Laws

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Post by Salathe » Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:25 pm

Faction Laws

After the galmair banning thread on mantis I was curious about this. It seems faction leaders can be set to automatically ban people for certain action, and can also outright ban other faction members from entering.

Firstly, how can one see the current state of a faction? What automatic capabilities do factions have? Is it just a magic wall that bans people or do guards attack? How does a ban actually work?

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Post by Achae Eanstray » Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:31 pm

Re: Faction Laws

I would like to know also about depots and bans. In other words would it be best for chars not to store all their things in one town depot? :wink:

Even in Trolls Bane with the ban, a char could get to a town depot outside the city proper fairly easily...not even NPC guards at the arena. It would be nice to have a depot set up outside towns.

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Post by Salathe » Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:45 pm

Re: Faction Laws

From my understanding when you're banned from a town you can not even enter it. Similar to the way a cross keeps monsters away from the cross area.

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Post by Estralis Seborian » Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:24 pm

Re: Faction Laws

These are the modes:

-None: The guards do nothing at all
-Passive: The guards expel chars of this faction that attack someone or something
-Hostile: The guards expel all chars from this faction
-Aggressive: The guards attack chars from this faction

A GM can set the modes for each faction plus outlaws. There are no individual bans.
It would be nice to have a depot set up outside towns.
No way.

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Post by Salathe » Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:28 pm

Re: Faction Laws

Is there any way to see the modes or to find out ingame besides trial and extreme error?

And isnt the hemp necktie in a neutral depot?

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Post by Estralis Seborian » Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:41 pm

Re: Faction Laws

Yes, the hemp necktie inn is the "neutral" place. You can store your stuff there. But a town depot outside a town is not an option. Currently, there is no ingame display of the guard status, we might think about a solution. But don't bother, the guards won't be aggressive these days.

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Post by Achae Eanstray » Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:03 pm

Re: Faction Laws

I would think that most players are going to busily move their depot items to 1. either a neutral place or 2. divide them between all the towns if that is the end goal desired *shrugs*

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Post by Flux » Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:25 pm

Re: Faction Laws

Alternatively.. not get banished from your town?

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Post by Achae Eanstray » Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:32 pm

Re: Faction Laws

Flux wrote:Alternatively.. not get banished from your town?
For fighting off a mob.. *coughs*

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Post by Flux » Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:40 pm

Re: Faction Laws

Pacifism ftw. :P

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Post by Achae Eanstray » Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:02 am

Re: Faction Laws

I would like to suggest that fighting monsters is not exactly hostility and maybe should be readjusted unless the plan is for all visitors to run from monsters :?

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Post by Taiah » Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:22 am

Re: Faction Laws

It would be good if there was a few minutes leeway when leaving a town and the depot locking, if not then a warning "Are you sure you want to leave now, your depot will be locked if so?"

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Post by Estralis Seborian » Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:31 pm

Re: Faction Laws

1. If the faction leader decides that your faction has the mode "none", you may fight monsters 24/7 at the gate. This is a SETTING. Your faction leader decides that you get thrown out if you fight anything near the guards. Ask your faction leader ingame

2. As long as you are a member of a town, the guards will not throw you out. Only the faction leader throws you out of town, the guards MIGHT also throw you out, depending on the settings for outlaws

3. No depot is locked. If you can go to a depot, you can open it. If you cannot go to it because a guard expells you, you are not welcome or acted hostile while the faction leader forbade hostilities within town limits for your faction

4. The most stupid thing you can do is to spread your items over the three towns unless you plan to change factions on a daily base. There will be the day that e.g. Runewick only allows Runewickers to enter the town. Your items, as Galmairian, would be lost

5. As long as you behave, the faction leaders won't throw you out of town and your items are save in the depot of the town. If you disbehave, well, bad luck

6. Indeed, the Hemp Necktie Inn is a good place for all those who cannot behave and become outlaws. Those should store their stuff there. But if you store your stuff there because you fear that the faction leader one days decides to throw you out of town, well, take Flux' advice and behave

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Post by Taiah » Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:52 pm

Re: Faction Laws

Estralis Seborian wrote: 3. No depot is locked. ...........
Thank you for that information. I'll see if I can duplicate the depot lock after leaving the town. It could have been just that depot also...having not tested another one.

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