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Illarion and Windows Vista

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:23 pm
by Nop
The Illarion Client uses openGL for graphics support. Same for the map editor.

Microsoft has discontinued support for the free openGL in Windows Vista. The graphics drivers developed by Microsoft and included with Windows Vista do not support openGL at all or they try to emulate it using DirectX. All openGL applications, including Illarion, will not run on Vista or will be much slower than on XP.

If you want to run Illarion on Windows Vista you need better graphics drivers from the manufacturer of your graphics card that restore decent support for openGL. I'd recommend not running Vista until there is support for most open standards.

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:14 pm
by Kevin Lightdot
If noone minds me posting, otherwise just delete this or what ever:

If you still have the install disk to xp or such, you could try using MS Virtual pc, it's now free, and the currently still-in-beta 2007 version is said to work on Vista too.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtualpc/default.mspx

I have tried it with windows 95, though my lack of a windows 95 installation disk kinda held me back, but it did start the whole basic stuff, to the part where I needed a win95 installation disk.

I *think* it should work.

Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 11:51 pm
by jonathan norderweiden
so, mein neuer laptop mit vista hat eine schwache grafikkarte: ati radeon 1300. der treiber hat keinen opengl. wie komme ich an einen treiber mit dem illarion läuft<<<<<<<<<'<'''

Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 11:55 pm
by Lance Thunnigan
Could you perhaps right click the client, save as and save it to your desktop. Then right click the client and choose compatibility and click on WinXP?

Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 11:56 pm
by Nitram
Vista hat keine Unterstützung für OpenGL mehr. Soweit ich weis kann es keine OpenGL Treiber für Vista geben die so schnell arbeiten wie der Illarion Client es erfordert.

Bis jetzt ist keine Methode bekannt wie man auf Vista Illarion zum laufen bekommt.

Nitram

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 12:07 am
by Kadiya
Bei dem Laptop meiner Schwester gings...einfach installiert und lief...zwar nicht von Anfang an problemlos, aber mit ein bisschen rumfuchsen hats geklappt.
Einfach mal das Problem googlen.

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 9:47 am
by Nop
Ersten Post here lesen: Wenn der Hersteller Deiner Grafikkarte vernünftige Treiber mit openGL liefert, dann klappt es. Die von Micro$oft haben keine echte openGL Unterstützung, da ist es reine Glückssache.

Außerdem schaltet Vista bei Verwendung von echter openGL Unterstützung seine tollen neuen Grafikeffekte auf dem Desktop ab, was auch immer die sein mögen.

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:49 pm
by Thorwald
Nvidiakarten mit dem neusten Treiber WHQL v.158.24 , also damit würde Illarion unter Vista auch ohne OpenGl flüßig laufen .

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:38 am
by Misjbar
Probably a useless post, but Illarion runs fine under Vista for me. Smooth and all that.

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:12 pm
by wolfsword
Misjbar wrote:Probably a useless post, but Illarion runs fine under Vista for me. Smooth and all that.
reviving and old post...
How does illarion run on your vista? 0.O

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:29 pm
by Bloody Nightmares
It runs just fine.
Vista, does have openGL and works just fine with Illa.

No problems for me.

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:31 am
by darxzero
Illarion is running perfectly on my Vista laptop. Maybe it is just the graphics card I am using though.

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:46 pm
by Callith
Same though I do have up to date Nvidia drivers, though I do get some odd lag from time to time and the hand icon turns into a normal pointer during the lag period.

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:35 pm
by The Damned
I don't know if this is related to Windows Vista, but my quotation keys do not work in game. (' & ")

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 12:14 pm
by Borine
I have a windows vista laptop but Illarion does not work... can anyone explain?

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 1:35 pm
by Faladron
If you want to run Illarion on Windows Vista you need better graphics drivers from the manufacturer of your graphics card that restore decent support for openGL.

@Borine

That's the first sentence of this thread and will probably solve your problem.

Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:57 pm
by Borine
Bah cba gettin new graphics cards...

Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:59 pm
by Nitram
Not a new card. New drivers!

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:40 am
by Borine
same difference... aint it? I have a desktop pc I can go on anyways...

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:31 am
by Faladron
Graphic card = the thing with the metal and plastic wires attached to the rest of your pc/laptop inside of it, the physical THING that processes the operations necessary to display graphics

graphic drivers = SOFTWARE, stuff you can easily download (if available) and install to better the performance of your graphic card (and perhaps even be able to run Illarion again)

Find out who manufactured your graphic card, and the type of it, then visit the manufacturers website and check for the latest drivers (software) for your type of graphiccard.

You can find out which graphic card you have by typing "dxdiag" in the "run" command line in the start menu.

If you got that, google should help you to find a website to get the drivers from.

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:05 am
by Christopher..Rigden
I managed to get Illa working but now its really slow on my Vista laptop... Any suggestions?

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:26 pm
by Du Sundavar Freohr
Hallo Leute,
Ich habe grade mit einem "Fachmann" gesprochen.
Er sagt, das neue Windoof7 solle OpenGL unterstützen.
Weiss jemand ob das stimmt ?

Re: Illarion and Windows Vista

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 9:49 am
by Piotnik
Soweit ich weiß unterstützt Windows 7 - genau wie Vista - "von Haus aus" kein Open GL.
Microsoft verhält sich da zwar uneinsichtig, aber konsequent. :?
Es kann jedoch weiterhin per Treiberupdate "nachgerüstet" werden, sofern der Grafikkarten-Hersteller dies anbietet.

Re:

Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 12:47 pm
by Skamato
Du Sundavar Freohr wrote:Hallo Leute,
Ich habe grade mit einem "Fachmann" gesprochen.
Er sagt, das neue Windoof7 solle OpenGL unterstützen.
Weiss jemand ob das stimmt ?
Also ich hatte zumindestens mit meinem neuen Laptop (Win7) keine Probleme Illa zu zocken.....

Re: Illarion and Windows Vista

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:16 pm
by Elfe
hallo kann mir hier jemand helfen bin neu und kann das spiel nicht starten bin eingelogt und charakter ist auch fertig sobald ich auf spiel starten klicke kommt datei wirlich runterladen da steht dann speichern u verwerfen aber es passiert nix selbst wenn ich auf öffnen gehe. lg

Re: Illarion and Windows Vista

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:32 pm
by Achae Eanstray
Elfe wrote:hallo kann mir hier jemand helfen bin neu und kann das spiel nicht starten bin eingelogt und charakter ist auch fertig sobald ich auf spiel starten klicke kommt datei wirlich runterladen da steht dann speichern u verwerfen aber es passiert nix selbst wenn ich auf öffnen gehe. lg
Welcome, can you post the error log file from your documents Illarion folder? Also, make sure your java is up to date and firewall not blocking java until someone else comes along that can help?

Re: Illarion and Windows Vista

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 9:47 pm
by Skamato
Hallo Elfe!


Wie Achae ja schon gefragt hast kannst du etwas genauer werden?

Ich kann dir da selber gerade nicht ganz folgen. Hast du die Datei auch schon versucht zu speichern und/oder gleich so zu öffnen?

Ist Java auf deinem Rechner installiert?


Grüße
Skamato

Re: Illarion and Windows Vista

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:53 am
by Ufedhin
Not 100% sure this belongs here but after a good search i cant really find a suitable thread to put it in.
The trouble im having is, the game freezes on me after a few min' and then i get the message "application error
unable to launch application" and it crashes on me.
this is the error message,

Illarion Client V1.21 started Mon Aug 06 21:23:42 NZST 2012
LWJGL: 6.0.6001.18000
VM: 1.6.0_33
OS: Windows Vista 6.0 x86
java.net.SocketException: Connection reset by peer: socket write error
at java.net.SocketOutputStream.socketWrite0(Native Method)
at java.net.SocketOutputStream.socketWrite(Unknown Source)
at java.net.SocketOutputStream.write(Unknown Source)
at illarion.client.net.Sender.run(Sender.java:151)
java.lang.IllegalStateException: From thread Thread[Illarion output thread,5,javawsApplicationThreadGroup]: Thread[javawsApplicationMain,5,javawsApplicationThreadGroup] already has the context current
at org.lwjgl.opengl.Context.checkAccess(Context.java:172)
at org.lwjgl.opengl.Context.forceDestroy(Context.java:228)
at org.lwjgl.opengl.Display.destroyContext(Display.java:946)
at org.lwjgl.opengl.Display.destroy(Display.java:929)
at illarion.client.IllaClient.exitGraphics(IllaClient.java:281)
at illarion.client.IllaClient.errorExit(IllaClient.java:419)
at illarion.client.net.Sender.run(Sender.java:161)
Exception in thread "Illarion output thread" java.lang.NullPointerException
at org.lwjgl.opengl.Display.destroyContext(Display.java:946)
at org.lwjgl.opengl.Display.destroy(Display.java:929)
at illarion.client.IllaClient.exitGraphics(IllaClient.java:281)
at illarion.client.IllaClient.errorExit(IllaClient.java:419)
at illarion.client.net.Sender.run(Sender.java:176)
java.lang.IllegalStateException: Mouse must be created before you can read events
at org.lwjgl.input.Mouse.next(Mouse.java:409)
at illarion.client.gui.MouseHandler.handle(MouseHandler.java:104)
at illarion.client.gui.InputManager.handle(InputManager.java:276)
at illarion.client.gui.Gui.handleInput(Gui.java:201)
at illarion.client.world.Game.gameLoop(Game.java:234)
at illarion.client.IllaClient.<init>(IllaClient.java:164)
at illarion.client.IllaClient.main(IllaClient.java:612)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at com.sun.javaws.Launcher.executeApplication(Unknown Source)
at com.sun.javaws.Launcher.executeMainClass(Unknown Source)
at com.sun.javaws.Launcher.doLaunchApp(Unknown Source)
at com.sun.javaws.Launcher.run(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
#### Java Web Start Error:
#### null

Im a dinosaur from another era so not very computer smart :? ,
can anyone help,and tell me whats going on.
Up untill a few hours ago every thing worked just perfect,nothing has changed my end and have completed all other
recomended check list fixes.
Thank you.

Re: Illarion and Windows Vista

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:00 pm
by Nitram
Something is wrong with your internet connection.

Did you change/install a new firewall, antivirus application? Did you unplug your networking cable? Did you update Java?

Nitram

Re: Illarion and Windows Vista

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:22 pm
by Ufedhin
Unfortunately no,or i would have had a culprit,i was running java 7 for the past 3 week with no troubles.
But after the crashes started i uninstalled it and installed the supported java 6 but the problem remains the same.
Seems the character is able to stand around and chat,but as soon as i move around too much it occurs.

here is the latest error report.

Illarion Client V1.21 started Mon Aug 06 21:57:32 NZST 2012
LWJGL: 6.0.6001.18000
VM: 1.6.0_33
OS: Windows Vista 6.0 x86
java.lang.IndexOutOfBoundsException: reading beyond receive buffer
at illarion.client.net.Receiver.readByte(Receiver.java:296)
at illarion.client.net.Receiver.readUByte(Receiver.java:311)
at illarion.client.net.Receiver.run(Receiver.java:140)
Exception in thread "Illarion input thread" java.lang.IllegalStateException: From thread Thread[Illarion input thread,5,javawsApplicationThreadGroup]: Thread[javawsApplicationMain,5,javawsApplicationThreadGroup] already has the context current
at org.lwjgl.opengl.Context.checkAccess(Context.java:172)
at org.lwjgl.opengl.Context.forceDestroy(Context.java:228)
at org.lwjgl.opengl.Display.destroyContext(Display.java:946)
at org.lwjgl.opengl.Display.destroy(Display.java:929)
at illarion.client.IllaClient.exitGraphics(IllaClient.java:281)
at illarion.client.IllaClient.errorExit(IllaClient.java:419)
at illarion.client.net.Receiver.run(Receiver.java:208)
java.lang.IllegalStateException: Mouse must be created before you can read events
at org.lwjgl.input.Mouse.next(Mouse.java:409)
at illarion.client.gui.MouseHandler.handle(MouseHandler.java:104)
at illarion.client.gui.InputManager.handle(InputManager.java:276)
at illarion.client.gui.Gui.handleInput(Gui.java:201)
at illarion.client.world.Game.gameLoop(Game.java:234)
at illarion.client.IllaClient.<init>(IllaClient.java:164)
at illarion.client.IllaClient.main(IllaClient.java:612)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at com.sun.javaws.Launcher.executeApplication(Unknown Source)
at com.sun.javaws.Launcher.executeMainClass(Unknown Source)
at com.sun.javaws.Launcher.doLaunchApp(Unknown Source)
at com.sun.javaws.Launcher.run(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
#### Java Web Start Error:
#### null

Will check out all internet connection possibilities.
Thanks for the fast reply Nitram.

Draugafex.