Everything about Illarion that fits nowhere else. / Alles über Illarion was inhaltlich in kein anderes Board passt.
I always imagine them talking like a chimp "ook ook"Achae Eanstray wrote:I cringe seeing an "OK" written thinking they wouldn't have said that "shortened" word those times.
By which source? According to every possible etymologist whose even spoken on the subject, O.K, Okay, and Ok are accepted variations and there is not one considered more formal. If you allow Okay, you have to allow every other spelling of the word, period, otherwise its not fair in a lingual sense. Unless you can provide me something written by a reputeable source, like, websters, harvard, oxford et al that says specifically "Okay" is the only word spelling that should be accepted as a formal word over every other spelling of the word.Dyluck wrote:It doesn't matter if OK came before Okay. In a practical use of modern english, Okay is now considered a more formal word than OK which will always just be two letters acting as an abbreviation, even if someday society decides it will stand for the word Okalydokaly.
I don't view it as a modernization issue, theres plenty of "modern" words im fine with in Illarion and fantasy literature. But I look at it as a slang issue. Authors in the genre of fantasy writing do not use "Okay" in any form, unless its a really poorly written book or novella. Thus, nor should we.Rhianna Morgan wrote:I personally think that "okay", no matter how it is written, is not a good word to use IG. Why is it so problematic to just use "alright" or something like that, something that sounds less modern than "okay"?
Just my two cents on that part of the discussion.
This is a great point. I have played several period specific MUDS back in the day, where you'd have to speak in era-appropo language, enforced. Doing that in illarion, will, as I've said, make it very difficult to play.Raina Narethil wrote:As much as this game is set in the time period you have to be careful here. it is already hard enough to communicate with some do to the German, English languages.
you start talking in in true old English or German then you will be adding more separation in game. because trying to translate this as an example:
Och, ye ken wha'd a' mean laddie? = this Och, wha'd ye ken ein "bedeuten Bürschchen? if quickly run through the translator to take part in the Rp.
Not picking on the po or po's who do try to speak in game correctly just trying to help make it simpler to for all to enjoy the game.
just my two silvers
By all means, if someone is having a hard time understanding a PO, or PO's. They're free to say so, lords know even some of the other Orc PO's asked me to do clearer Orc talkRaina Narethil wrote: Och, ye ken wha'd a' mean laddie? = this Och, wha'd ye ken ein "bedeuten Bürschchen? if quickly run through the translator to take part in the Rp.
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By all means, if someone is having a hard time understanding a PO, or PO's. They're free to say so, lords know even some of the other Orc PO's asked me to do clearer Orc talk
There's making the game easier to understand, then there's dumbing it down.
Anytime Sere was around a German PO, I always tried to speak in plain English, simply to help them out at that point.
I think the point was to use things that aren't modern...and as Returner said O.K came first, but neither are in the very dynamic(ask any 2 people you'll get atleast 2 different answers) time period in which Illarion is set. before you start on whether a word is period apropriate, seems like there should be a decision on an actual period. I've seen 3 different years mentioned in this thread, and all were before current version of Modern English we use was ever around(though its called Modern English its only used to discern from Old and Middle English, and has been used since the 1500's). if any of the years mentioned are actually the setting for Illarion, nothing we'd say in game would be period apropriate.Dyluck wrote:It doesn't matter if OK came before Okay. In a practical use of modern english, Okay is now considered a more formal word than OK which will always just be two letters acting as an abbreviation, even if someday society decides it will stand for the word Okalydokaly.