Everything about Illarion that fits nowhere else. / Alles über Illarion was inhaltlich in kein anderes Board passt.
I was talking about our characters being so. I agree that we shouldn't take what happens IC and let it reflect on our feelings towards the player OOC.We should all be goody-two shoes and abide laws and be respectful to our neighbours, Drathe?
The analogy doesn't work like you want it to, because roleplay, books, and movies also have some fundamental differences. Roleplay involves interaction with real people, unlike the other two. Most of the time you don't get to pick and choose which experiences you want to be exposed to in game; you're forced into a lot of situations. And (for those of us living in the real world, at least) it is clear that some of those situations are so undesirable that they ought be altogether avoided, especially when the roleplaying is done through such an impersonal means and when there are children about.MyNameHere wrote:Roleplay, books, movies share one fundamental element. They are fiction. Nothing else. People should realise that. Fiction has nothing to do with RL.
no one will permit rapes in illa they are forbidden and will be forbidden. I also suppose no one wanted to ask to permit them. The point is that you can play that it had happen (without actually play /emote the rape) as long as you...Grokk wrote:So...maybe I'm missing something...what exactly is gained by permitting rape?
And to play that Char X have raped/curse/tortured/killed/done whatever to Char Y is IMHO important if we dont want an a all-nice-flower Fantasyworld. If we want villians, we cant banish all evil.Me wrote:1.)doesnt play the part which you could see in any p0rn film
2.)if you does know the other player well enough to dont hurt his feelings
3.) if the PO of the other char agree
I mean... If you're going to put it that way...Grokk wrote: So...maybe I'm missing something...what exactly is gained by permitting rape?
Djironnyma wrote:And to play that Char X have raped/curse/tortured/killed/done whatever to Char Y is IMHO important if we dont want an a all-nice-flower Fantasyworld. If we want villians, we cant banish all evil.
That's not a reason for allowing rape specifically.Silo wrote:A book's nothing without the deeper, darker bits. And you're not going to get that without stepping on the line of right and wrong. Meaning, some people get to make their little shrinking potions, and others get to make the potion that makes people bleed out of all their pores. And then people take them RANDOMLY and drink them. That makes for an interesting read.
Is rape worse than anything else? In my view, death is worse. Should we avoid role playing that, too? The point is that not everyone sees rape as "that" evil - the one that there's no going back from. To some, it's other things. If we banned everything people took offense to... you know. It's been said enough.Grokk wrote: The only argument that has been given is this general attack on the idea of a game without evil. But that's beside the point. No one has suggested removing murder, torture, cursing or anything other than rape for that matter. Of course we need the deeper, darker bits. Of course it would be completely uninteresting without it. But we are only talking about rape here. I fail to see how removing that alone from the game would lead us to Candyland.
FAIL.Jupiter wrote:As long as the way HOW you roleplay it fits to the rules, everything is alright.
Archibald grabs the woman's arms and presses her against the wall.
Johann cry quietly, unable to struggle aganst the man's doing.
Archibald: ((are you okay if we play that he has raped her?))
Archiabld closes his pants and walks off with an evil grin.
Done. No rule breaking and there was still a rape.