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Post by Jupiter » Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:13 pm

lizard's tongue

Is the tongue of the liazardmen split like of a snake or not?
Some roleplay it so, others not.

I would say yes. Why else would so many liazrds use sss and shhh while speaking (not every lizard does , though).

No "roleplay as you want"-answer, please. I would prefer a clear answer by a GM.

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Post by Vheraun » Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:21 pm

Re: lizard's tongue

Jupiter wrote:Why else would so many liazrds use sss and shhh while speaking (not every lizard does , though).
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Because they have an inborn speech defect.....they lisp a bit and try to overrade it ;)

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Post by Magdha Tiefenerz » Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:30 pm

Does a split/forked tongue force you to lisp and to use more s-sounds? I have never seen a snake speak so it is hard to tell.

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Post by Randnar » Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:34 pm

Magdha Tiefenerz wrote:Does a split/forked tongue force you to lisp and to use more s-sounds? I have never seen a snake speak so it is hard to tell.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28SE_lWKnlE

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Post by ltgmkay » Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:00 pm

Randnar wrote:
Magdha Tiefenerz wrote:Does a split/forked tongue force you to lisp and to use more s-sounds? I have never seen a snake speak so it is hard to tell.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28SE_lWKnlE
I cant even tell if he lisps in that...

But I always picture lizardmen as having thinner tongues, which may contribute to a lisp more than taking a knife to a human tongue.

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Post by Silo » Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:22 pm

He does have a lisp in that. Also, to my knowledge, a lisp can be formed when the touch goes too far out of the mouth when one uses an "S". Assuming lizardmen have long tongues, this'd cause the lisp.

In my mind, lizardmen have long, thin, forked tongues. And they probably taste the air. That's how I'd RP it.

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Post by ltgmkay » Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:49 pm

Silo wrote:He does have a lisp in that. Also, to my knowledge, a lisp can be formed when the touch goes too far out of the mouth when one uses an "S". Assuming lizardmen have long tongues, this'd cause the lisp.

In my mind, lizardmen have long, thin, forked tongues. And they probably taste the air. That's how I'd RP it.
My thoughts exactly.

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Post by Flux » Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:53 pm

The lisp is caused by the tongue against the incisors.

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Post by Netsirk » Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:46 pm

i have a friend that has a split tounge...and she does not talk like a lizard :) just a normal person

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Post by Kevin Lightdot » Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:49 pm

I heard Chinese businessmen sometimes get a small cut in their tongue so they can talk more western.

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Post by ltgmkay » Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:06 pm

Netsirk wrote:i have a friend that has a split tounge...and she does not talk like a lizard :) just a normal person
I believe that was already discussed.... splitting a human tongue doesnt create a lisp. Refer to my post and His Greatness Flux for a better view on it.

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Post by Netsirk » Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:36 pm

i was just letting you all know i finally made a friend in rl XD

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Post by Mr. Cromwell » Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:36 pm

Suppose that the lizard tongue itself is heavy on Sssshhhh sounds and chhhhhh sounds, which generates something akin to a ridiculously heavy accent when attempting to speak common. This also explains why certain lizards speak perfect common (or "don't use shhh sounds") because as we know, accents are something that can be lost by some if they practice hard enough/ have talent with languages.

Not a GM but I reckon that makes sense.

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Post by Kevin Lightdot » Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:43 pm

Mr. Cromwell wrote: Not a GM but I reckon that it doesn't really matter.
Some say orcs should speak plain English in orcish too, posh even, but noone does because it's just fun to talk rediculous, and fun is what it's all about!



GO GO NETSIRK

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Post by Llama » Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:45 pm

Kevin Lightdot wrote:Some say orcs should speak plain English in orcish too, posh even,
I actually do that with my lizards. I assume the lizard language is so full of sssses that when you speak lizard you can speak it perfectally.

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Post by Flux » Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:04 am

The worst one is when you see a lizard write "sss" on a BOARD.

Oh dear.

It's alright when orcs write their accents because they're stupid and they'd just write phonetically, and end up writing their mistaken language as what they interpret as correct. Lizards though.. seriously..?

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Post by Sssari » Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:10 am

Flux wrote:The worst one is when you see a lizard write "sss" on a BOARD.

Oh dear.

It's alright when orcs write their accents because they're stupid and they'd just write phonetically, and end up writing their mistaken language as what they interpret as correct. Lizards though.. seriously..?
Totally agree.

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Post by Llama » Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:16 am

Sssari wrote:
Flux wrote:The worst one is when you see a lizard write "sss" on a BOARD
Totally agree.
Sssari...

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Post by Flux » Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:18 am

Clearly should just be Sari :P .

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Post by orgis » Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:23 am

I brought this up a wee while ago with the orc Po's but I guess lizard yins would be having the same problems as well..

When typing in the lizard tongue, do yous do the whole "Sssssszz" thing? I'd think they wouldn't have that problem considering its their own language and thus wouldn't have any problems specking it correctly.

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Post by Sirith-Rym » Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:32 am

I began doing it that way because I agree with you. But then all the other lizards I've met kept doing the "ssss" so I gave in to the influence of my peers. :(

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Post by orgis » Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:59 am

Sirith-Rym wrote:I began doing it that way because I agree with you. But then all the other lizards I've met kept doing the "ssss" so I gave in to the influence of my peers. :(
Ahh well, at least you don't make your lad out to more stupider (who knew that was a word? :lol: ) by making it out your char never grasped his own language fully. Really orcies... or are we playing to the dumb dumb stereotype? :lol:

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Post by Sssari » Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:17 am

Flux wrote:Clearly should just be Sari :P .
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Clearly thats how it is in the lizard language you punks! Its pronounced Sis-Sari!

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Post by Jupiter » Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:55 am

To make it correct: I do not care for the S-sounds.

I just want to know if the tongue is split or not. Many play so, others not. This is nothing were you have to discuss about, but simply something where someone has to decide. Or a GM decides that liazrds can have both: a "normal" tongue or a split tongue.

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Post by Magdha Tiefenerz » Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:24 am

Jupiter wrote:To make it correct: I do not care for the S-sounds.

I just want to know if the tongue is split or not. Many play so, others not. This is nothing were you have to discuss about, but simply something where someone has to decide. Or a GM decides that liazrds can have both: a "normal" tongue or a split tongue.
Sorry, but I don't understand why this is something that has to be decided. Why is it a problem that some lizardmen have a split/forked tongue and some not? Even within one species not every one is the same. For example: some people have dark skin, some people have slanted eyes, etc.
So, yes, in the end I would say play as you like as long it is clear somehow that it is a lizardman.
I think that the more riged the background becomes the less fun it is because it is harder to find something that suits someone.

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Post by Jupiter » Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:05 am

Magdha Tiefenerz wrote:Why is it a problem that some lizardmen have a split/forked tongue and some not?
No one said that.

However, I want to have a reliable answer. I thought maybe other players would like to know it also. If they don't care for an answer, they just don't have to read it.

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Post by Llama » Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:09 am

You're not going to get one - the best you're going to get is "My lizard does" or "My lizard doesn't" or some weird speculation on whether lisps and cut tongues are correlated.

Some lizards do, some lizards don't, just like the colour of their scales, whether they have shapes at the back of their neck, or other finer details.

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Post by Jupiter » Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:11 am

That's why I wanted an answer by a GM and not from some strange players like you :P

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Post by Grim_banned » Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:21 am

Why dont you PM a GM then, instead of opening sensless discussions?

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Post by Magdha Tiefenerz » Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:13 am

Grim wrote:Why dont you PM a GM then, instead of opening sensless discussions?
Jupiter wrote:I thought maybe other players would like to know it also. If they don't care for an answer, they just don't have to read it.

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